20 Feb 2024 15:01:59
Tor: bjugstad, Dumba (50%) 2nd

Arz: Robertson, liljigren, Kampf, 1024 3rd.


1.) 20 Feb 2024
20 Feb 2024 16:24:27
I cant imagine a world where Yotes say yes.


2.) 20 Feb 2024
20 Feb 2024 16:35:01
Rather have Lily than Dumba.


3.) 20 Feb 2024
20 Feb 2024 22:16:41
Leafs wouldn't be smart to make that trade.


4.) 21 Feb 2024
21 Feb 2024 00:41:47
Terrible trade for the Leafs.
Dumba has been nothing short of a disaster this season leading the Coyotes with a gaudy -13.
I would much rather keep Liljegren than have Dumba on Leafs blue line.
Bujgstad is a good target.
I advocated for Dubas to trade for him at last years trade deadline and this past June when Treliving was throwing around Leafs $20M in cap space to Klingberg, Reaves and Kampf.


5.) 21 Feb 2024
21 Feb 2024 03:21:04
@WB what is with you and +-? Johnny Hockey was a +60 a couple years ago and looks like a cap dump right now. Why do you café so much?


6.) 21 Feb 2024
21 Feb 2024 12:59:51
Yes, Dumba is a -13. Back to +/ - again as a way to evaluate? Have you not thought about this at all waterbuffalo?

Dermott is a -14, Keller a -19 and Schmaltz a -17. The best +/ - on the whole team is a +4 with JJ Moser.
5 on 5 Dumba is a -8 even though his zone starts are 60% in the D-zone.

Benoit has the worst +/ - on the Leafs D-core but I can't imagine anyone saying he is the worst defender. Brodie has the best +/ - by a huge margin. He is actually 11th League wide for defencemen in +/ -. Does that make him the 11th best defenceman in the League?
Liljegren, McCabe and Gio are all tied for 62nd in the entire League. Timmins is 76th then Rielly at 122nd.

So the Leafs have the 11th and 3 tied for 62nd best +/ - amongst defencemen in the entire League. Why so much talk to upgrade the D?

New Leaf pairings according to +/ -

Brodie Liljegren
Gio McCabe
Rielly Timmins

No need to upgrade, just plan the parade.


7.) 22 Feb 2024
22 Feb 2024 17:03:44
Matt Dumba is not that good of a player in my professional opinion.


8.) 22 Feb 2024
22 Feb 2024 17:53:07
Waynemarner. He's not great. He's also not horrible like some make him out to be. He's a solid #4. He could be better but some of his decisions are based on being too aggressive and that holds him back from being better imo.