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13 Aug 2019 17:04:18
I figured since I see so many bad props I would try and make one. LOL

STL - Edmondson 50% retained 3rd

Tor - Kappanen and marincin

Saves TOR 2.3+ mil in cap space

And it frees up a spot for elc bracco.

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13 Aug 2019 17:51:41
Edmondson isn’t terrible, but he also isn’t a star. Basically what I’m saying is, the leafs could live with this trade, but it’s not something they would do.

You said it yourself, we don’t need anymore LHD, if Kapanen is traded it will likely be for a young 2-way or shut down defenceman such as Pesce or Pulock.

13 Aug 2019 18:01:00
this isn't so bad. If toronto wants to save on the cap and thinks highly of edmondson and can get him for half price than why not?

I personally wouldn't do the deal but I have no clue how the leafs feel about Edmondson and no clue after Matthews comments about kapanen if kapanen is in fact on the trade wire for Toronto.

13 Aug 2019 18:23:04
possible counter

Kapanen and dermott

for

dunn and a 4th

the pick isn't needed but might make leaf fans less pressured to hate this deal. lol.

13 Aug 2019 19:05:18
Yeah no sorry dunn is not for sale only young top pairing upside with offensive talent on the LHD side.

Kappy doesn't get you pesce not even close.

13 Aug 2019 19:53:21
You make it sound like you have a say in any deal st. louis makes. Anyone can be sold for the right price and i mean anyone. Dermott gives st. louis a young left side defenseman to work with. The only true problem i see with a dunn for kap and dermott deal is st. louis can't fit kapanen within the cap unless 2 more million is taken back. As far as value its pretty close

If this deal happened youd start dissing dunn and go on the kapanan dermott bandwagon. its just how it goes. Every fan over values the players they cheer for and undervalue the players they don't cheer for. that's why being a real GM would be stressful.

13 Aug 2019 20:33:26
Craiger make up your mind either this is for fun or this is serious. Do me a favor put your thinking cap on and tell me why on earth a Gm would trade their only top young talent at a postion. for a player they already have in spades. Doesn't make sense. also last year when the blues were losing Armstrong went on record to say that he was not going to be trading any of his top young talent. Why would you. Like I said kappy would be nice but we have way better wingers playing and that will be coming up. I am everything blues get use to it.

13 Aug 2019 21:16:06
I can’t see a single reason why Leafs would make this deal. Edmondson would play 4LHD? Behind Rielky, Muzzin, Dermott. We trade a top 6 forward for a bottom pairing defenseman? It makes no sense and the value isn’t there.

13 Aug 2019 22:34:59
Redwing1
Kapanen and dermott was simply a fun counter. It actually makes sense when broken down.

First off not once have i ever said dunn isn't good. I wouldn't attempt to mention him if i thought he was bad.
Second if dermott got half of the year to pad his stats on 1st powerplay unit and playing with the top 2 lines like dunn did their points would be close
Third when st. louis had a slew of injuries they put Dunn in the top 4 sometimes the top 2. He did well but st. louis sucked. Once players got back from injury to take their spot in the lineup dunn got pushed down to 3rd line D and didn't produce quite at the rate he did in 1st half however, st. louis started winning

Dermott if given the chance could produce. Dermott never plays on powerplay and rarely sees the ice with matthews or taveras lines.
Dermott is simply the player thrown in deal to make kapanen and dunn be close in value. Saying the value isn't there is arrogent since all 3 guys are all under 24 but over 22. So the trading young players comment doesn't apply to this since 2 young guys for 1 young guy is adding youth to st. louis.

Fabbri thomas kapanen. that's one hell of a 3rd line till kyrou is ready. If oreilly or schenn get hurt thomas is a good 2nd line C replacement until then he is 3rd line C.
If any of the 4 wingers on the top lines go down guess what kapanen becomes the best option to replace them by a land slide.

As far as dunn, not only does dermott make a decent replacement for a 3LD but they also have Pouliot who is a few years older but had better jr numbers than both dermott and dunn and could be a good player when put with good defencemen to learn from. Pouliot was brought to st. louis for a reason. Trading Dunn in this kind of deal could be that reason

Just saying. got to say once you break it down without putting emotion into it, it actually makes a lot of sense.

13 Aug 2019 23:03:08
If marner signs kapanen becomes 3rd line RW.

If dubois can't be a 1C if traded to toronto than we can't call kapanen a top 6 guy in toronto either

Gotta play both sides

But yeah. i still wouldn't do edmondson at 50% for kapanen. i just try to rationalize everything sometimes a little too much. lol.

14 Aug 2019 03:35:16
Edmondson is better than Dermot and more physical. I don't see leafs resigning muzzin with his asking price of course Riley is better. As I see it you save 2.3 mil in cap.

Reilly muzzin
Edmondson liljgren
Sandin ceci

Year after
Reilly ceci
Edmondson liljgren
Sandin fill in

It was just a thought.
Craigger do you actually play hockey?

14 Aug 2019 10:09:55
After original if it happened
Reilly ceci
Muzzin barrie
Edmondson dermott
(Harpur schmalz)

The savings in salary may be worth kapanen for edmondson in 2019-20 as every couple million counts for the leafs at this moment. However, edmondson just got to 3.1 in arbritration. By next seson if he has a solid year he could ask for up to a30-40% %raise which would increase that total to 4-4.5 million. They may not afford that salary and edmondson walks. 3 years of kapanen is better than maybe having edmonson for 1

I played a lot when younger. Why do you ask?

15 Aug 2019 04:43:38
Geez you really don't know sheet about blues do you.

Here are the projected lines next year

Schwartz schenn tarasenko
Thomas orielly perron
Sanford bozak kyrou
Sundqvuist barbashev Blais

Gunnerson/ edmondson petro
Jaybo parayko
Dunn borts.







 

 

 
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