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09 May 2020 00:50:19
Leafs trade Reilly
Jets trade Pionk +

Reilly is easily the better player. But Pionk had a brilliant year last year. This trade is a big risk for Leafs because we don't know if Pionk is capable of following through. On the other hand, it clears the clog at LHD and gives us a guy that can play 1RHD. Jets have a similar team and style as Leafs, so I'm betting Pionk would be able to do just as good here as in Winnipeg.

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09 May 2020 00:56:12
Jets would keep the younger, cheaper RHD.

09 May 2020 01:04:27
Ya right Marcus. Riley is way better and jets would take this.

09 May 2020 01:32:25
No Farmboy, the Jets wouldn't. Pionk was better than Rielly this year and is better defensively, plus an RHD. Making this trade would turn us into the Leafs. We'd have a great LHD corps and a terrible RHD corps and be paying more and getting older to do it. There's nothing in it for Winnipeg.

09 May 2020 02:56:48
Lol me Marcus joe is a meme now.

09 May 2020 06:34:21
Pionk is a cheaper, right shot d-man who is 2 years younger and plays more physically than Reilly. Also in 2 years Reilly will want a 8 year contract at between $8 and $9 mil per and at 28 he won't be worth it.

09 May 2020 14:11:22
Oh Please. As if Pionk has one decent year and he's worth more than Reilly all of a sudden. I thought you guys had Niku and DeMelo on the team. From what you've told us all, those guys are practically Norris candidates. So how does this leave you short at RHD? LOL.

Reilly is a far better player than any defenseman on the Jets and you guys know it.

Incidentally, Pionks contract is up at the same time as Reilly's. If Pionk keeps up the same production as this year, what do you think he will ask for? Same as OEL is my guess. Right around that $8M mark that all the 50 point defensemen seem to be getting now.

09 May 2020 15:08:01
It's just the Jets would rather have Pionk who is and ill be way cheaper. Reilly will want $8-$9 mil per which is way more than he is worth to any team not named the Leafs, who happily overpay their over-hyped players.

09 May 2020 15:41:07
To say Pionk is better defensively than Rielly is laughable. This is the first season Pionk has not gotten absolutely caved in possession wise. You know why that is? Because he is starting the large majority of his shifts in the offensive zone because he doesn’t know how to play actual defense. Rielly has consistently been able to put up decent possession numbers and points while starting 50% or more of his shifts in defensive zone against top opponents. There really is no argument here. Rielly is the better player and it really isn’t close. It doesn’t matter what team you like more you just need to look at facts.

09 May 2020 15:42:02
Come on guys. How, Pre tell would you rather have Pionk? There is no stats to show he is better. For the 2 mil more you pay for Rielly he is worth it, I am saying this from my jets fan perspective.

09 May 2020 16:31:45
If Rielly wasn't an LHD and a disaster defensively he would have more value. However, as Leaf fans have discovered it is very difficult to win with a player that only has value on the PP and constantly costs his team defensively like Rielly.

Ideally Reilly would be a good second pairing defenseman where you can at least provide some sheltering for him defensively that he so desperately needs and Leaf fans know it.

Pionk was far better than Rielly this season and as LeafsGM says, one fluke season by Rielly doesn't suddenly make him better or a really good defenseman. Rielly is a LH Tyson Barrie.

Overall, this trade world leave the Jets with about the same quality defense now, only older and more expensive. While the Leafs defense stays the same quality, but gets more balanced, younger and cheaper.

Jet and Leaf fans do agree on one thing though, both of us would rather pay the younger Pionk 8 mil or more in two years over Reilly with Rielly's regression after his fluke career year.

09 May 2020 16:39:50
Farmboy, Rielly is two years older and far too one dimensional and plays LD. How can you not understand that Rielly isn't a need positionally for Winnipeg? Our top pairing is our shutdown pair and Rielly can't do that.

I agree it makes the Leafs better, but does nothing for Winnipeg other than make us older, more expensive and weaker defensively.

09 May 2020 17:27:33
Reilly isn't far to one dimensional. He says well enough in his own zone even if he isn't a shutdown guy. His underlying stats are excellent. He has a bad giveaway once in awhile but generally gets a tonne of points at 5 on 5 not the PP. I would make the trade as it fills the gap for RHD but to say pionk is better is asanine.

09 May 2020 17:36:47
Memarcus. There is literally no stats to back up anything you say. Rielly has been much better defensively than Pionk and it isn’t even close. Pionk is not a good d man defensively by any measure. I am starting to wonder if you actually watch hockey or not?

09 May 2020 18:06:08
Okay, you guys keep drinking the Leaf Kool-aid. Rielly is a generational defenseman just like every other Leaf player is at their position. No wonder the Leafs are such a dominating, bubble team and constant first round fodder. It's obvious you don't watch Rielly play and just listen to the glorified reports from Toronto media.

We'll just leave it at Rielly isn't needed by the Jets as you don't know anything about the Jets lineup, so the Jets would easily say no for all the reasons noted by Jets fans above.

09 May 2020 19:21:46
Lol pionk is trash I wouldn’t trade Dermott for that garbage jets fans on this site say we are bias but yet say a guy who isn’t that great is better than Rielly who last year was top 5 in Norris he’s far from a liability on the defensive end that’s why he’s out there in key defensive situations if the leafs trade Rielly it’s going to be for a top rhd not a 2-3 rhd.

09 May 2020 20:05:45
Yes now he is better than Pionk but if the Leafs believe the hype about Reilly in 2 years the Leafs will overpay to sign him for 8 years. 4 years later the fans will turn on Reilly and Dubas or who ever is the next great GM will place him on Robodas island along with Tavares and Anderson. Business as usual in Leaf land.

09 May 2020 23:49:32
Marcus, how can you even say Rielly is second pairing? I mean really. He is a lot better than a Pionk. 2 years apart is like nothing. If Rielly was on the Jets he would push Moressey to Rhd or second pairing not the other way around. Is he a Norris candidate? Maybe not. But is he a top pairing d? Heck ya. Every team puts him top pairing.



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