13 Oct 2020 15:59:55
Looking ahead to the future here, but assuming Leafs manage to refrain from LTIR and are able to accrue enough cap space. At trade deadline:

Leafs trade Dermott, Abramov, 1st (2021)
Buffalo trades Hall

My guess is Buffalo signed Hall to that contract with the intention of trading him. This gives them three long term pieces they could use for their ever continuing rebuild.

Leafs load up that potent offense even more for the playoffs. Hall is on a 1-and-Done, so he obviously wouldn’t be coming back.

13 Oct 2020 17:05:08
Any idea how much space would be needed? I'm assuming in this situation buffalo would have no problem retaining though.

It's a good idea. Buffalo won't contend even with Hall so I don't see why else they signed him for one year.

13 Oct 2020 17:49:55
Another trade must be coming Dermott and Kerfoot. opens up lots of money players will be selling services low fron now til season starts.

13 Oct 2020 18:42:36
To be honest LeafsLife, I don’t know exactly how the calculation works. But I read somewhere that $2M in accrued cap space would land you close to an $8M player. I don’t know if that’s true or not. But it seems relatively close.

This is one area that is definitely beyond my realm right now. Best we can do is work with hypotheticals. But by moving Dermott to go along with the accrued cap space, I got to think it would be close enough.

I will say this, with the addition of Hall now, Buffalo just became a better team than last year. Even if they don’t contend, they will at minimal be riding Leafs rear a little closer than last year.

13 Oct 2020 18:58:26
Dermott won't get paid much. I doubt it opens up much at all.

Kerfoot I wouldn't be surprised if he goes (sorry craiggers lol)

13 Oct 2020 19:35:03
IIRC-at the deadline you only have to cover what is remaining of that players cap hit. Which is why a $2M space now can afford maybe an $8M cap hit at the deadline as that players cap hit would be only the amount left in comparison to the total of the season.
For wxample-25% season left, you would only need 25% of his total cap hit open. It is also why when you have a player injured and out for a while, you can gain cap space as the season goes on as long as the replacement makes less than the injured player.

13 Oct 2020 19:47:32
If Dermott still isn’t signed, then Leafs are low-balling him for sure. Eventually they will trade him for peanuts and say he was greedy. And in the end, Philly gets Konecny, and Leafs get nothing. Optics are everything. He can say it was the right move and talk about odds this, and odds that, and in the end it doesn’t matter. He gambled and lost.

I’d rather not have a GM that thinks every move he makes is a bet.

13 Oct 2020 20:57:10
They probably didn’t offer him anything beyond the QO. He doesn’t have negotiating rights. And all these new guys just took away any leverage in negotiations he had. Take it or leave it.

Dermott is clearly a “dud” in Dubas’ eyes.

13 Oct 2020 21:06:57
Buffalo will be closer as will MTL I'm sure. If Bob is in form as well this could be a very strong division/ conference.

Happy with the moves thus far but most other teams have gotten better.

13 Oct 2020 22:46:44
Thanks RLF. That’s a handy tidbit of info. I’ll keep that one in mind. It’s easy to remember. Lol.

13 Oct 2020 22:59:04
Hall has a full NMC, the Sabres didn't win Free Agency with signing Hall to only try and trade him.

14 Oct 2020 00:20:26
125 days this season (ouch)
85 up to deadline

Every player has a daily cap hit (cap hit/ 125)
81.5 million/ 125 is 652000 max team gets per day

Any amount team uses under max gets accumulated.
That accumulation + remaining max daily cap left needed for season is what you can spend on your team (F1) any time you aquire player. Any player you want to aquire, take their daily cap hit times by number of days remaining in season after transaction and that’s what they would use up. Add what your teams remaining daily Cap is needed to close out year and that number is subtracted from F1. If that number is more than the number of the player you are acquiring number is you are good.

If leafs go with this team up to deadline they’d be able to get a 1.7 cap hit player not 406 thousand. They’d need to be on average 1.8 million under cap, 14400 daily, to afford Hall in trade for non roster player at deadline. Using roster player to trade for him helps but hall is worth 62000 per day so youd use 2,480,000 daily cap just on him. Every 1 million year cap player is worth 301,000 to close out season from deadline. 26,080,000 plus what team accumulated is what team has. Matthews Tavares nylander marner need 12,928,000 of that number just to put it in perspective.

So yes you can get higher cap players but every team can spend so much more depending on what they accumulated. Teams operating 4 million under yearly cap every day can afford up to 17 million worth of yearly contracts. So yeah capologists are a valuable asset to aquire for teams budget. Gets so complicated.

Using LTIR helps during season but every day you have to use this contract you accumulate nothing for team. But you also don’t go over daily cap so it’s good but not good. The more it’s used the less you’ll have at deadline. If it needs to be used to ice team all year you’ll get no deadline deal. Pretty simple

Hope this helps, if not sorry not easy to explain.

14 Oct 2020 05:28:39
Craiggers to the rescue!

Awesome comment. I knew it was something along those lines but that cleared it up perfectly.

14 Oct 2020 13:19:08
A NMC doesn’t mean he won’t be traded. It just means he has a say in where he goes.

Adding Hall does not make them a contender. It will improve them a little and help placate Eichel somewhat. I imagine after the brutal Skinner signing they don’t care to repeat the same mistake with Hall.

If Sabres are not in the playoffs by deadline, I am fairly confident Hall will be traded.