21 Oct 2020 16:09:46
Despite what Jumbo has said, I don't think we are built right yet. I don't want to move Nylander, but I do think it is the right move to strengthen other areas and create some cap space for now and the future.

Nash
Nylander 6.96(tor)
2021 3rd(Fla)

Fla
Kunin RFA(Nash)
Dermott RFA (tor)

Tor
Weegar RFA (Fla)
Ingram ELC (Nash)
Novak ELC (Nash)
2021 1st (Nash)

Nash gets Nylander and FLA 3rd for Kunin, Ingram, Novak and a 1st. They make their top 6 more potent and get the best player in the deal without subtracting from their D. They are more built to win now and can afford Nylander cap hit.

Fla gets Kunin and Dermott for Weegar and a 3rd. They get a young top 9 forward who won't break the bank and a young NHL LD they can play hardball with on a contract as Dermott really has no chips to bargain with. They get stronger long term and save money.

Tor gets Weegar, Ingram, Novak and a 1st for Nylander and Dermott. Leafs get a top 4 d-man, one of the top rated goalie prospects, a bottom 6 forward prospect and a 1st while saving about 3.5 in cap space after signing Weegar. They now have the cap space to use at the deadline or try and take advantage of a cap strapped team looking to unload a good player to get under the cap.

With the signings of Vessey, Simmonds, Thornton, Boyd and prospects like Robertson, Anderson, Korshkov, Engvall etc and 3.5M in cap space, we are better set up now and the future.imo

21 Oct 2020 16:38:54
I don't think weegar is the answer.

21 Oct 2020 18:01:15
What is it with weegar lol.

21 Oct 2020 18:49:49
Why the weegar argument now? We moved off Manson and decided weegar is the savior?

Keep Nylander. Move Marner. Mitchy is not an 11 million dollar player.

21 Oct 2020 19:07:38
The bigger question is, why not Weegar?
26 years old. Blocks shots. Hits bodies. Stands up for teammates. Coveted right hand shot. Moves the puck well. Plays a good defensive game. Should be signed for around $3.5M per and should take a top player to acquire.
I get many want the big name guys, but it is guys like Weegar on good contracts that create winning teams to support your high priced guys.

21 Oct 2020 19:17:24
I have been talking about Weegar well before it was the/ A thing. It is not new.

21 Oct 2020 19:34:57
I brought up weegar 2 summers ago but Manson was the in thing at time so got plenty of laughs around

Why? Because some don’t do player research before commenting

No biggy at all after all it’s all fantasy.

21 Oct 2020 19:37:50
Edit. Should read "shouldn't take a top name to acquire"

21 Oct 2020 21:25:14
The real issue I see with Weegar is what he costs to get. It won't be cheap. Rumour had it Dermott+ was offered and turned down.

22 Oct 2020 12:39:22
Dermott alone I wouldn't expect Fla just takes that. It depends on what the + was that was apparently turned down. If it was a 1st/ 2nd or Robertson I would be surprised it was turned down. If it was Engvall or a 4th/ 5th, I am not that surprised. Apparently talks have stalled between Panthers and Weegar. Bruins, Jets, Devils and Canucks have also asked about him. Fla could be waiting for best offer before his Arb hearing which isn't until Nov 8.

22 Oct 2020 12:59:45
I still think Weegars numbers are being supported by playing beside Ekblad.

And to be fair Craigger, two years ago, Weegar was only putting up less than 15 minutes of ice time. He was relatively unknown to most fans and we were looking for a top line RHD at the time, which he most definitely was, and probably still is, not.

Manson has that wonderful standout season of his that seemed to indicate that he had arrived as a 1RHD. And then the train wreck in Anaheim happened and the whole team fell apart the last couple years.

Lot of variables at play there.

22 Oct 2020 13:37:37
All good points Hockeyluvr.

And yes, possible Weegar's numbers were raised a bit with Ekblad, but his numbers are good without Ekblad as well. Weegar fits multiple needs for us, including cap implications. imo
It is not just his on ice ability, it is what it takes to sign him. I was against Piet signing as it just compounded a problem I see that already exists (tpp much cap on too few players) . Weegar should be an affordable contract. He should be good value and we need good value contracts.
At worst, he is a good second pair guy. At best, a good complimentary #2. You likely need a good #1 for Weegar to be on the first pair. We have that. I am not a believer that both 1st pairing guys have to be true 1st pair guys. Depending on who your #1 is, a true 2nd pair guy may be good enough if the plays the right style of game to compliment your #1. This allows cap money to be spent elsewhere then on two true 1st pair players. Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie, Weegar looks like a pretty good top 4 to me and cost effective for at least two more seasons.

22 Oct 2020 15:50:26
Good point

Manson 4 years ago (Starting to regress now)
Gustafson 3 years ago (61 pts 2 years ago)
Weegar 2 years ago (Coming our party 2020)
Graves last summer (+/ -leader 2020)
JBrown this offseason (damn Ottawa)

All 4 were unknown older guys not even Vegas took chance on. Within 1-2 seasons they are now known. Sometimes getting before might not help right after dal but within 1 year you wish they were. That’s my point no biggy.