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19 Jan 2021 18:42:15
Leafs trade Marner, 1st
Islanders trade Barzal

If you want to see what stats I’m going by then you have to go to Sznajder’s viz on Public Tableau and do the comparison yourself.

Look at all categories: zone entries, shots, generating offense, transition play. Barzal is in a league of his own. He is war superior not only to Marner, but the rest of the league in general.

The headline box scores don’t show it. Team effects take away from what could otherwise be spectacular numbers. But believe me when I tell you that I am not making this claim without justification.

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19 Jan 2021 18:59:46
I have seen Barzal's advanced stats and been absolutely amazed myself. He's a better player than he's given credit for in the system he plays in with the linemates he has.

Marner (in my opinion) has been the opposite this year. He looks like poo most nights but ends up on the score sheet.

I actually doubt Lou does this though.

19 Jan 2021 19:01:01
Once each player changes teams the WAR will flip around for each guy

The teams they are on help each with all their stats

They are basically the same player in every way

If you don’t see it oh well.

19 Jan 2021 19:21:20
I wouldn’t do this trade Barzal is a great player but he’s a center which we don’t need I honestly think both teams value their players more for separate reasons and I think marner has been fine I think both him and Matthews are adjusting to having a 41 year old on their line and having to fight for pucks more where Hyman did that for them.

20 Jan 2021 02:53:05
Not WAR. It was supposed to say far superior. Lol. I was wondering if someone was going to mistake that.

Not WAR. Not even advanced stats. Simple things like entering the zone with possession. High danger passes. Set up chances per 60. Things like that.

Trust me when I tell you that Barzal is a better player.

At least he is in my mind anyway. But I don’t watch enough islanders games to be an expert.

20 Jan 2021 10:15:42
Thought WAR was a baseball stat but went with it since I trust everything you write. Thought their was a new stat I never heard of lol .

I view barzal and marner as the same except barzal is a center.

20 Jan 2021 13:58:34
Their is a WAR stat for hockey as well.

As for the trade. If I am the Leafs and doing this trade, I would need to be confident that either Barzal or Tavares can play the wing just as effectively as a centre and that Barzal is giving me a minimum 6 year extension at no more than $8.5M per. Otherwise, I don't see the point of doing it.

20 Jan 2021 16:34:12
Isn't it wins above replacement?

20 Jan 2021 17:53:56
Yes, it basically tries to determine how valuable a player is to his team compared to a replaceable player in relation to wins.

20 Jan 2021 21:38:36
I'd do this deal in a heartbeat!

20 Jan 2021 22:54:14
WAR, like all advanced stats (my opinion) is garbage on its own. If it wasn't then Tanner would be the biggest brain going.



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