31 Jan 2023 03:20:32
Leafs need a league wide wave with a series of trades

I think we can all agree on that.

What I do think we will all disagree to agree what's actually needed to make this team a true contender.


My take
Leafs get what they want 50% retained but it will cost them huge

Leafs need

Patrick Kane 50% retained
Meir 50% retained
James Reimer 50% Retained
Luke Schenn 50% retained
Max Domi 50%
Jakob Chychrun 50% retained

Ok

Toronto Chicago

Toronto
Patrick Kane 50%
Max Domi 50%

Chicago
Toronto 1st 2023
Kerfoot
Abruzzse
Fraser Minten


Toronto Arizona

Toronto
Jakob Chychrun 50%
Arizona 1st 2024
Arizona 2nd 2023

Arizona
Sandin
Knies
Tor 2nd 2023,2024 2025


Toronto Vancouver

Toronto
Luke Schenn 50%

Vancouver
Holl
Engvall


Toronto San Jose Detroit

Detroit
Robertson
50% Murray salary retained
4th 2023 SJ

Toronto
Meir 50%
James Reimer 50%

San Jose
Bertuzzi (Detroit)
Murray (Tor)
Arizona 1st (Tor) 2024
Toronto 1st 2024
Arizona 2nd 2023,2024
Rights to Topi Niemelä


This has to be paid to get the players they want.

Personally I'm for it cause who's to say this farm team sticks around after leafs clean management out of they don't make it out of first round . Sell sell buy buy pray pray



Simple leaf Dad~

31 Jan 2023 11:35:31
No thx.

31 Jan 2023 13:36:15
I don't think most agree that the Leafs need a complete overhaul and multiple large trades, nor is it realistic that they will. I also don't see any of the other teams making those deals, which makes the SJ deal moot.

So, Kane and Domi both 50% retained for an expiring contract, a late 1st, a aging B-/ C+ prospect and a solid B/ B+ prospect. Don't see Chicago doing it.

Chychrun 50% retained for 2 1/ 2 seasons, their 1st next season which could be top 5 and a high 2nd this season for Sandin, Knies and 3 2nds? Why would the cash strapped, rebuilding Yotes do this? They would be trading their 1st and higher 2nd for 3 lower 2nds? Then retaining 50% just so they can get Sandin and Knies for Chychrun? I'm just going to stop there.

The Van deal only makes sense if Van has any interest in resigning Engvall or Holl or both or they think they can flip them for more than what they would have got for Schenn alone.

The 3 way deal. Why would Detroit retain on Murray and then also send Bertuzzi to SJ for a 4th and Robertson? They are a team on the cusp of being a solid team like NJ last season.
Leafs end up with both Meier and Reimer 50% retained for Robertson, Arz's 2024 1st, Toronto's 2024 1st, Arz's 2023 2nd and 2024 2nd (not sure when the Leafs got this pick) and Niemela, but SJ have to take Murray at 50% retained if I am getting this correct. Good haul for SJ, but only because of the pieces from Arz, which Toronto will not have as I cannot imagine the Arz Chychrun trade is anywhere close to what would happen.

Sorry man, don't see your plan coming together.

31 Jan 2023 14:54:31
I think people are going to be very disappointed in the deadline. Dubas won't do much because he can't do much. Does anyone really believe that he will be allowed to clear the cupboards just to get out of the first round? The organization would be fools to allow that just so he can save his job.

03 Feb 2023 01:57:20
That’s not a trade, that is a whole new franchise!
No thanks!