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02 Aug 2021 03:54:52
TOR trades to ANA: Liljegren, Dermott, Mikheyev and Kerfoot
ANA trades to TOR: Rakell, Manson, Shattenkirk, Kesler IR (6.8M), 50% salary retained on Shattenkirk and Manson (total 4M)
CAP Impacts: In real cash Leafs trade $6.65 cap space but really only $3.9M in hard cash. Ducks send over $14.5M in salary commitments space ($18.5 but retaining $4M). 6.8M Leaf's bury in IR relief.
Summary - Leafs end up taking back about 7.7M in cap impact (only about 1.1M more than sending ou) and get some RH defensive help and a top 6 winger. ANA gets some big cash savings along with a Top 6 center, forward prospect and Defensive prospects at good cap values.
01 Mar 2021 04:08:59
TOR Trades Kerfoot, Engvall, Vesey, Barabanov and 2nd Rd pick to ANA for Rakell, Heinen and Comtois
1.) 01 Mar 2021 11:20:07
Anaheim just does this out of the kindness of their hearts? Why don't you add a 7th for zegras?
24 Oct 2020 23:22:33
TOR Trades Kerfoot, Holl, Engvall and 2nd pick to NYI Pulock, Nelson 20% retained and Bellows
Leaf's exploit Isles need to free up cap space by taking Nelson cap hit and land Pulock and Bellows. This allows NYI to sign Barzal and they can use Holl to fill that spot affordably.
Leafs send 6.75M in cap space to Isles
NYI sends 4.8M + likely 3.75M Pulock RFA contract.
Leaf's then trade Nylander to WIN for Roslovic, 1st rd pick. let's Jets replace some of the goals Laine provided so they can get rid of him and Leaf's get a cost control 2nd line winger and a 1st rd pick
1.) 25 Oct 2020 03:33:13
Don't see this happening. They need to free up space to sign 3 guys. Pulock one of them.
2.) 25 Oct 2020 11:53:42
Toews already got traded. Barzal and Pulock are the two left. According to cap friendly, they have $9M in space. They are going to be real tight. They will definitely have to dump more salary.
Pulock is probably going to get more than $3.75M. Corsica has him ranked 25th for his position. He is a top 50 defenseman in the NHL.
And besides all that, Leafs are already over the cap themselves. We already either have to make a trade or run a short roster. How are we going to pay for this?
3.) 25 Oct 2020 14:45:22
What a horribly typical pro-Leaf trade.
4.) 25 Oct 2020 23:36:08
6.75 million for 3 players isn’t something lou would do right now
Maybe Robertson Sandin and Liljegren could possibly get lou thinking but then leafs would be 7 million over cap with just 80% of Nelson alone. Then leafs would have 1.15 just to sign pulock and that’s Just to remain Allowable 10% over cap during off-season
Maybe those 3 mentioned for pulock is duable. Then lou has 9 million to get barzal. Very duable
So
Robertson Liljegren and Sandin for pulock
Would leaf fans like this?
22 Oct 2020 02:02:42
Blockbuster V2
TOR trade Nylander, Holl and Sandin to CHI Kane 35% salary retained and Strome
Leaf's get Kane to go on the wing with Tavares and Strome to fill in as 3rd line Center.
TOR trade Kerfoot, Dermott and 3rd pick 2021 to CAR for Hamilton and Foegele
Leaf's gain a RD and some sized cost controlled youth.
1.) 22 Oct 2020 15:17:17
Curtawood you can't be serious.
2.) 22 Oct 2020 15:23:38
Everything written on these sites are complete seriousness.
The only ones around here that believe this are tolls like you that actually take offence to these very serious trades made up by totally serious people who are seriously right hand people to serious gms
Like serious.
3.) 22 Oct 2020 15:50:48
Marner goes b4 Nylander there is value in Nylander contract and marner is overpaid . Marner can never earn that number unless he puts up 125Pts. It’s superstar money and marner isn’t.
4.) 22 Oct 2020 16:51:25
Perception. Your first sentence on the reasons you give Nylander stays and Marner goes is exactly why I think Nylander goes and Marner stays.
5.) 22 Oct 2020 17:25:18
Argument can be made for both sides of that your right RLF. Nylander probably gets a better return in a flat cap world. Dubas also seems to think higher of Marner.
6.) 22 Oct 2020 18:29:35
Marner has the more complete game, but not $4M a season more complete. imo
If we are looking for cap space and don't mind taking on a lower, but still noticeable cap hit +/ + (depending on player), you move Marner. Can't see it working another way with the flat cap.
If we are looking for reducing our cap hit and getting an NHL ELC + pick/ prospect possibility, you trade Nylander. You could also move Nylander for an established player+ depending on the player we get in return. Nylander is a more manageable situation for most teams which makes him a more tradeable asset.
That's the way I see it anyway.
7.) 22 Oct 2020 21:40:30
In what way is his game more complete? Most analytics actually favour Nylander defensively. He also scores more.
8.) 23 Oct 2020 00:45:15
I am not going to get into a debate about analytics and what they actually show. Marner is on the pk and is used in 1 goal lead games at the end of the game. He reads defensive responsibility better, he plays a more physical game without the puck just for a few reasons he is more rounded. Just watching the two play shows us Marner has a more rounded game.
21 Oct 2020 02:53:20
Cap Trades:
Trade 1: TOR trades Nylander, Korshkov, Holl and Dermott to DAL for Klingberg and 1st round pick 2021.
Dallas is desperate for a legit scoring winger and gets some NHL ready youth and D. Leaf's solidify RD position and clear approx 4M in cap space.
Trade 2: TOR trades Kerfoot, Engvall and 3rd pick 2021 and to MIN for 1st rd pick 2021 (PITS)
Leaf's sign Glachenyuk $2.8M AAV x 2
1.) 21 Oct 2020 09:03:41
Is Nylander the type of player Dallas wants? He had nine hits last year. Nine. With a career total of 76 hits. 76. His entire career (307 games) . For comparison, Benn had almost 90 hits in the playoffs alone.
Given Seguin’s poor performance both in regular season and playoffs, I can easily see him on the trading block. But I think Leafs would be foolish to make this deal.
2.) 22 Oct 2020 18:01:14
I'm with Hockeyluvr, I'd be leery of trading for Seguin.
Regarding Trade 2, Minnesota is an unlikely trade partner with only 2.7M in cap space left.
For Galchenyuk, you can probably sign him for 700K rather than 2.8M. Not sure why you'd want him though, he has bounced around for a reason.
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28 Sep 2020 03:29:57
A bit different post....What will signing Petroangelo mean?
Sounds like Petro wants to come to TO. Talk is 8M x 7 years with much of it in signing bonus does it.
Last season the leaf's had 7.25M on the Cap in Barrie and Ceci, so taking Petro is possible, but puts at least one larger contract on the block and more of the remaining players as league min to 1M contracts.
While tossing Willie overboard is the easiest thing the likely resulting trades would keep the offence and look to draw down some of their other salaries that are not of high output like:
- Johnsson 3.4M
- Andersson 5M
- Kerfoot 3.5M
- Holl 2M
Moving these players for picks or prospects remove almost 14M and are in areas that either the leafs have internal options or where there are an abundance of market options.
Johnsson can be replaced easily by Roberston or Barbonov internally or go after some reclamation projects like Galchenyuk or Sheahan.
Andersson makes the most sense to move off of with cheaper options available like Khudobin, Elliott, Smith all being cheap options and Fleury being bought out is another no brainer...also many trade options likes of Murray, Kuemper, Georgiev and Allen
Kerfoot is the hard fill since he's a center, but taking Spezza back or Thornton would fill that gap.
Holl is a casualty and probably so is Dermott. Leafs could easily fill that spot with Liljegren internally or with the likes of Gudas, Schenn, Hainsey or Stone on the cheap
Some of the trades of these players could return some cheaper players to fill in around the bottom 6 of D depth.
So 14M out plus the existing 6M will easily allow us the sign Petro with 12M left to fill out the rest or the roster which is more than enough and there is always the ability to move one of the bigger pieces as needed.
1.) 28 Sep 2020 05:09:20
Sounds like he actually wants to go to Vegas. It's all but confirmed he would like to stay in St. Louis but would accept Vegas before all others if he can't.
If Nylander/ Marner stay I want you to take a look at the bottom 4 and bottom 6. It will look exactly like the CBJ series. Mathews, Marner Tavares dominate for an entire shift. They skate off. CBJ spends the next 4 minutes in the offensive zone.
What then happens when Reilly is up? And Hyman? And Robertson is off of ELC? I think it's do able as well and Dubas will definitely try. But you also need to remember he is 31 years old. He isn't 21. He may hit a sharp regression very soon. Much like Karlsson.
2.) 28 Sep 2020 23:45:30
I think he will sign with Las Vegas Or a shock team like Colorado
Just a feeling
In my posts I have the leafs signing him
But I hope they don’t.
3.) 30 Sep 2020 00:25:27
Colorado ain’t going to sign him. They got a good thing going there with all those young guys on cheap deals. And their defense is exceptional. They won’t risk it by signing him. Vegas would be foolish to as well. They have one of the best cap situations in the league. Signing Pietrangelo would immediately screw that up.
If he doesn’t sign with Pietrangelo and just wants to go to the highest bidder, he will go to a non-contending team with cap space. Otherwise, if he wants to go to a contending team, he will not get nearly as much.
19 Sep 2020 03:05:19
Demko is a risk, but affordable for this year and can be extended now for 3 years 3M per. With the cap hit on the forwards having a decent goalie low on cap would allow us to beef up on D.
Minny would be taking 10.4M in cap space and with Dumba and Greenway would likely result in a savings of about 2M+ on the cap
The Gaudreau deal would give us a cheaper version of Willy with more creativity and someone in the off-season or deadline we could get value for if we don’t make the playoffs or need to add something to get us over the top.
Overall approx 3M or so in cap savings allows more flexibility, Demko is a risk but so is keeping Freddy and letting him go for nothing after another first round exit and we get Greenway and Virtanen as some lower cost youthful options to move up and down the lineup or as trade chips. Dumba and Gaudreau are young top end talent that with a change of scenery could recapture some of their former glory.
11 Sep 2020 01:26:51
Wow. not missing a big shot is the only reason the point men get crowded so much. everyone knows that if they get the puck low it’s tougher and they aren’t scared of anyone who shoots from the point.
Leafs need a different option on the PP. getting rid of Willy and getting Greenway, Hoffman and Bennett will give the first and second unit new options.
PS, check your facts - Barrie didn’t have a bomb anything like PK, they got him as a PP quarterback, but it’s not a powerplay that is run from the point. it’s run off the half wall. they don’t need a PP quarter back with the likes of Tavares, Marner, Matthews, Thornton. they need options. one is a relief valve up top to blast it when those guys down low are boxed out. Similar to what Washington and Tampa do.
That option Ok PK will free up Matthews and all the other wingers.
07 Sep 2020 18:52:11
I see what your saying on the surface but here is more context to support the deals:
Subban is that big shot from the point on the power play that has been missing for years. Dermott is not ever going to be a Norris candidate and PK has been. while I agree he is likely on the back end of his career 2 years at 4.5 for him is a major improvement. as that is what we’re per paying Ceci!
The Dumba trade is sweetened due to MIN retaining 1.2M of Dumba for 3 years. Maybe we don’t need to add a pick but I’m sure there are a bunch of offers for the wild on Dumba so they need to overpay somewhat.
Bennett had a breakout playoff and has been playing in the shadows of Tkachuk, Monahan and Johnny Hockey. He has the ability to move up and down the lineup and is only 24 years old, controllable and 1M less than Kerfoot On the cap. Freddy has value, but as per the Allen return, a 2nd and a 3rd for Freddy is a bit of an underpay but getting rid of his cap space and getting prospect capital and a young center is worth it.
The MTL deal is bit of an overpay but had to be since it’s TOR - MTL. Allen is a solid option at a low cap hit and Domi is a high skill physical player which are in short supply around the league. Would you trade Kapenan for Domi = all day. Alzner is the sweetener as it’s a cap hit the Leafs could use for depth and the draft and also work with MTL to possibly even retain a %.
Remember Leafs overvalue their players. but while all of these players have value, so do the ones returning. At these prices they would still be valuable in trades should Dubas need to flush some of them next summer.
Reality is that they aren’t going to be able to sign Petroangelo at 7+ and the other options of Brodie, Hamonic, will still cost more than $5 a year and the likes of Shultz, Greene will be useless bandaids.
They need stability and high end skill on the back end to complement the high end skill upfront. then the 2 bottom lines are where some older leaders teach younger players to play with grit and get them ready to move up the lineup.
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