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13 May 2024 20:36:49
To LAK: F - M. Marner + F - D. Kampf
To TOR: F - A. Kempe + 2024 1st + D - B. Clarke
Cap In $5.5M
Cap Out $13.3M
Cap savings of $7.8M
then
To CAL: D - T. Liljegren + F - N. Robertson + 2024 1st (TOR)
To TOR: D - M. Weegar
Cap In $6.25M
Cap out $2.2M
Cap usage of $4M
Re-sign Bertuzzi, Domi, Homburg and Dewar
Sign D - B. Pesce to a 5 year $35M deal
New line up
Knies Matthews Domi
Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander
Kempe Minten Jarnkrok
McMann Homburg Dewar
Rielly Weegar
McCabe Pesce
Benoit Clarke
Timmins
1.) 13 May 2024 21:29:38
I guess we had a similar idea at the same time T-buds. I hope you are right on the return compared to me.
2.) 14 May 2024 02:34:19
Somehow I doubt LA would want to give up one of their top goal scorer (top point producer) and top defensive prospect plus their 1st round pick for Marner and Kampf.
This trade highly overvalues Marner.
3.) 14 May 2024 12:33:05
According to the many analysts and obviously Marners agent, his value is top 15 player in the league and an elite RW player.
Those guys don't come cheap.
A late 1st, plus prospect and current player is a reasonable package.
4.) 14 May 2024 13:07:53
Kempe was actually 3rd in goal scoring last season and 2nd in points for the Kings last season. That said, I doubt the Kings are willing to add a 1st and top pairing potential prospect to get Marner. I'd be thrilled if they would and Leafs should jump all over that.
11 May 2024 14:01:04
To NYI: F - M. Marner + F - N. Robertson
To TOR: D - N. Dobson + F - JG. Pageau
While the Isles may prefer to trade Pulock, Mayfield or Pelech, they are all inked long term. Leafs want a star for a star!
$11.8M out
$9M in
Pageau has his $5M cap hit for 2 more seasons, which may complicate things a year from now, he has underperformed for $5M, but Leafs take him on to complete the deal.
Dobson will need a new deal this summer, like Marner. Dobson will command a signifcant raise as well!
Sign Dobson to a 8 year $8.75M AAV
Sign UFA D B- Pesce to a 6 year $6M AAV
Look at resigning Edmundson if possible
New D
Rielly Dobson
McCabe Pesce
Benoit Liljegren
1.) 11 May 2024 16:44:55
Pageau is awful. Your third pairing sucks.
2.) 11 May 2024 17:08:53
At first I thought, maybe. But Marner also needs a contract in a year and is likely looking around $12M+. Not sure Islanders want to pay that kind of money.
09 May 2024 16:35:42
If the Leafs are able to trade Marner, depending on what they get, if they get picks and prospects, best thing is to flip some of that for needed talent.
To CAL: 2024 1st (TOR) + D - T. Liljegren + F - D. Kampf + F - R. Hirvonen
To TOR: D - M. Weegar
1.) 09 May 2024 18:44:21
I'd think they want even more for Weegar. He had a momster season.
2.) 09 May 2024 21:02:44
My guess is that Calgary doesn't have a lot of desire to move Weegar or Andersson. Seems like the offer is light to get a top pair D.
3.) 10 May 2024 04:09:16
Weager is Calgary’s best defenseman.
Very few teams trade their best defenseman!
If/ when they do, the GM often gets fired.
09 May 2024 16:24:54
Another Marner trade possibility
To TOR: F - J. McCann + 2024 1st
To SEA: F - M. Marner
McCann is signed for reasonable term at $5M for another 3 years and Leafs pick up a 1st.
Seattle gets a star winger to play with Berniers
Leafs use the 1st to draft RHD - C. Yakemchuk
1.) 09 May 2024 21:01:03
Can't see Seattle moving McCann, he's their only real scoring threat.
2.) 10 May 2024 04:12:41
Not only is McCann Seattles top scorer but he is a left winger and
Leafs have a few of those already
Bertuzzi- if he is resigned
Knies
Robertson
McMann
Holmberg
If Marner is traded I, for one, would like to see a top 4 RHD coming back in return filling one of the Leafs most glaring deficiencies.
09 May 2024 16:18:08
Lots of Marner trades, which I think he'll be the odd man out.
To TOR: F - D. Guenther + 2024 1st + 2025 2nd (TOR)
To Utah: F - M. Marner
Leafs get a young player, a 1st and a 2nd for an elite player. that's a standard package for a star. Leafs save substantial cap.
Utah immediately signals the rebuild is over and tried to compete with upcoming studs in Cooley and Geekie, to play with Marner and Crouse.
With the 1st pick, Toronto trades down and selects RHD - C. Yakemchuk
1.) 09 May 2024 21:00:36
I don't think Geunther goes anywhere and I doubt they give him, a 1st and 2nd for Marner.
2.) 10 May 2024 04:15:31
Utahs 1st round pick is #6 overall.
Giving up Guenther, the #6 overall pick plus a 2nd round pick would be an overpayment by Utah in my opinion.
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09 Mar 2024 12:55:59
Trade deadline past, nothing crazy happened, not surprising. Not much to work with.
Off season, while nearly $7M is added from the Matthews and Nylander extensions, a lot of money falls off the books. Cap is rising $4.2M, so need to find $3M.
All the LTIR contracts are gone. Plus Bertuzzi $5.5M, Domi $3M, Brodie $5M, Samsonov $3.5M.
All other contracts are either close or near league minimum, so no need to list.
Re-sign Samsonov, but at a lower value than $3.5M, likely $2M to see it he can bring it together for a full year.
Bertuzzi, let walk, as that $5.5 unless he wants to come back for $4M.
Re-sign Domi, give him a 3 year at $2.5M
See if Brodie wants to come back at a significant discount or re-sign Edmundson, see who is better in the playoffs
Trade
To TOR: D - C. Parayko (14% retained) cap hit is $5.6M
To STL: 2024 1st + F - D. Kampf + F - A. Steeves
See how the team does in the playoffs and possibly look at this in the off-season.
1.) 09 Mar 2024 13:33:58
Interesting ideas, deserving much discussion.
First the in/ out has rounding errors so it’s only $2m that’s needed.
Not sure that Samsonov would resign in Toronto when other teams who are in need of a goalie could easily offer more.
LAK need two goalies next year; both Talbot and Rittich are UFAs. Let’s trade rights to Samsonov AND Jones to LAK for right to Matt Roy! LAK also have cap issues so this advance their cause getting 2 goalies whose combined salaries might be less than Roy’s new salary.
LAK have Brandt Clarke waiting to take Roy’s place and we get a solid 2-way RD to play with Reilly (if we resign him using Brodie’s money) .
I might have interest in resigning Domi at $2.5 and Bertuzzi at $3.75 but they rarely tilt the ice in our favour. And only on the 3rd line for both; their tenacity together might be effective. Bottom line is they are NOT 2L players.
I have zero interest in Brodie, even at minimum salary. There are simply better choices.
And yes Lyubushkin and Edmundson will get their audition in the playoffs when it counts. Neither are worth their current salaries but if they help the PK, clearing the net and are able to slow the rush with body checks we may have something.
Same for Dewar.
As for Parayko while I might like to have him I would continue to oppose any 1st in a package.
Just my opinion.
2.) 09 Mar 2024 14:29:58
St. Louis would owe 2 3rds to leafs as per hertl trade. A but differant but retaining low% for many season doesn’t seem like a huge ask compared to 50% retained with or without 3rd party gets a bigger return even though you’ve retained more than the few month retain. So weird because although a team retain me less % it’s not only moult leaving till the term of thd contract expires or player retires. In fact it takes up a retain slot and only allowed 3 at a time per year you might wanna do something big but that tiny % comes back to bite you
Maybe league will catch on to reversing the values since you end up retaining more cap and salary on the long term low%retain than high % retain on a less than half a year annoyance. It might seem to put u behind covering such a high retain but by the new offseason unlike other scenario you don’t need to think about it or worry if player goes to LTIR causing you to have to get your accounted involved over a non human entity
Just saying.
3.) 10 Mar 2024 01:01:49
@Rsears to say Brodie would be bad at league min is a bit much. I'd take a lot of guys at league min I wouldn't take any higher.
10 Jun 2019 12:43:48
Does the Skinner deal impact Marner's contract?
Skinner just scored 40 goals on a very poor team, and has scored 30+ goals 4 times in his career. He also was a pending UFA
My thoughts are no team is dumb enough to sign Marner to an offer sheet paying him north of $10.5M as no one will pay 4 1st's for a winger, I like Marner but he's not McDavid, sorry
So when looking at a contract, $10.5 is the max I would go with him on an 8 year deal. Ideally the Leafs want $9M on an 8 year deal, but that is not going to happen.
Can a 7 year 9.75M deal work? Slice off 1 year of UFA and meet half way?
1.) 14 Jun 2019 20:59:33
The Skinner deal impacts every contract. I would assume it gives Marner a lot more leverage. Marner is arguably the better player. Scores less goals, but has been instrumental in leading the play for the Leafs. Both are top line wingers and among the top offensive points leaders on their teams. The comparison is apt, and though it doesn’t give Marner any leverage to ask for more money, it does strengthen his case for what he has been asking.
20 Oct 2018 14:31:23
Does Tuch's new deal out of his ELC at $4,75MM for 7 years improve the contract offer talks for the Leafs with Nylander.
I understand he's not as good as Nylander, but also lower than what the Leafs are offering
last year
Nylander 20G, 41A, 61 Pts
Tuch 15G, 22A, 37 Pts
Leafs offer is around $6M - $6.5M on a LT deal
Also hearing a 4 year offer around $4.75M AAV
I would say the Leafs are bang on with their offers using this as a gauge!
1.) 21 Oct 2018 02:07:14
I think Tuch is going to be for Vegas what Lucic was for Edmonton.
09 Jun 2018 16:01:24
Looking towards the draft, the Leafs need to start to upgrade the depth at the C position. After looking at some mocks, here are two quality C to draft 1st and 2nd
1st - C - R. McLeod
2nd - C - J. McBain
Two young big bodied Centres who the Leafs can develop
The other need is at RHD, but I feel with Lilijegren in the pipe and they should be looking for a NHL ready RHD so the draft is not ideal unless they trade up for D - E. Bouchard
27 Feb 2018 02:48:51
Looking towards the off-season,what do contracts look like for the big 3
Using Eichel and McDavid and sandwich for Matthews I come to the following:
A. Matthews 8 years $88M, ($11M AAV)
For both Marner and Nylander who I say are valued the same, I use Ehlers and Pastrnak to sandwich their deals.
M. Marner 7 years 45.5M ($6.5M AAV)
W. Nylander 7 years $45.5M ($6.5M AAV)
Thoughts?
1.) 28 Feb 2018 01:31:57
the amount of years for marner should be 8 years and nylander should take 5.5M at 7 years.
14 May 2024 16:44:02
Marner is worth more than that.
14 May 2024 12:33:05
According to the many analysts and obviously Marners agent, his value is top 15 player in the league and an elite RW player.
Those guys don't come cheap.
A late 1st, plus prospect and current player is a reasonable package.
07 Mar 2024 12:27:51
Too much from the Leafs. Hanifin only fetched a 2025 1st plus a 3rd, that is likely a 2nd.
Take out the 3rd, Minten and Gregor.
25 Feb 2024 14:37:43
I guess in my opinion, trading for Hanifin, while good, is not the answer. However, if Calgary is trying to to a bit of a rebuild on the fly, getting a package like this is good.
10 Feb 2024 16:46:00
Leafs ate 8 years of Kessel's $1M, so it's not like it's never been done before.
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