08 Oct 2022 12:41:49
Josi to Toronto for Tavares ( waves his NMC ) & Sandin

Fox to Toronto for Nylander & Niemela

Muzzin, Holl, Hirvonen, Knies & a 1st rd pick in 2023 & 2024 for Kane. With Chicago earing half his salary. ( Chicago then repackages Muzzin & Holl in trades elswhere for prospects or picks )

Bunting Matthews Kane
Robertson Marner Kerfoot
Engvall Kampf Jarnkrok
Gaudette Holmberg Aube-Kubel


Reilly Brodie
Josi Fox
Giordano Liljegren
Benn


Murray Samsonov


* Leafs go full nuclear on an offensive defensive unit, a threat evertime they step on the ice.

1st PP : Reilly, Matthews, Marner, Kane & Robertson

2nd PP : Josi, Fox, Kerfoot, Bunting & Engvall


1.) 08 Oct 2022
08 Oct 2022 15:20:49
Fantasy trades that highly favor the Leafs.


2.) 08 Oct 2022
08 Oct 2022 19:31:38
So Tavares trade probable salary retention, Leafs on the hook for 25 to 33 % of caphit for the rest of the term.

Nylander & Sandin trade likely very fair trade value, at best add a prospect or pick from the Leafs & it would be nothing overly significant.

Kane trade could be viewed as an overpay by the Leafs for a rental, as Chicago immediately flips Muzzin & Holl for prospects & or picks. Not an overpay as Kane is that good, trade value is fair.

Fantasy or building a Championship team, a trade or trades sometimes facilitate that & it is the GM's job. Three point per game players in their top 4 on defense, all 3 potential Norris trophy winners. Good offense comes from good defense, & the lineup assembled of Reilly, Brodie, Fox & Josi would be dominant league wide at both ends of the ice.

Every player has a price remember Gretzky was traded in the prime of his career, as the best player in the world so truly no one is untouchable or mere fantasy not even a McDavid or Matthews. The latter of whom Leafs fortunate to have, the time is now to win. Pull out all stops make fantasy a reality, end the half century drought. Leaf fans need their thirst quenched, with a drink from Lord Stanleys Cup.


3.) 09 Oct 2022
08 Oct 2022 23:36:17
You want josi then trade marner sandin Plus
You want fox then trade nylander Rielly rangers add
You want Kane retained think Robertson Knies kerfoot holl and a 1st minimum

But hey fantasy is more fun to read than dealing with reality that the jays just pulled a leaf 2013 18 wheeler off the cliff

Blah.


4.) 09 Oct 2022
09 Oct 2022 01:28:35
@Wrexham, Nylander and Rielly for Fox+ isn't happening either. Not even close. He won the Norris recently and is in his early 20s.


5.) 09 Oct 2022
09 Oct 2022 01:38:49
Marner alone gets you Josi +, put down the crackpipe.


6.) 09 Oct 2022
09 Oct 2022 04:30:30
@Kennedy

With he salary attached to Marner, you won't get Josi for Marner. It's really only Leafs fans that think that.


7.) 09 Oct 2022
09 Oct 2022 18:57:26
Actually Leaf fans undervalue Marners contributions, because of the tall shadow of Matthews. What hockey fans see is Marner is dominant on the top line, & the sniper he plays with whether Tavares or Matthews succeeds that much more. Marner quarterbacks the powerplay as he is also dangerous on the PK, both of which successful stats for the Leafs leaguewide. Marner & a select few in the league is a cut above of gaining the offensive zone, & then equally dangerous to either score or make an absolutely insane pass setting up a goal. Engvall would almost double his goal totals playing with Marner, highly likely Engvall would have similar #'s to what Bunting produced last season playing with Marner. Yes Josi is a superstar with a longer track record, & obviously he also contributes in many facets of his teams success. In a trade Marner for Josi does make for interesting debate, would absolutely be close to equal trade value with a case made for either or as they are both that good. One is an ascending superstar, the other is 32 give that some thought. Could very well be Marner for Josi +?


8.) 09 Oct 2022
09 Oct 2022 21:11:23
What does age matter when Marner isn't locked up long term?


9.) 11 Oct 2022
11 Oct 2022 01:31:54
if you look at the players who have recived massive boosts playing hwith marner:

18-19 - kadri
19-20 - tavares, hyman
2021 - Matthews, Bunting

he makes everyone look better. each player posted career high in goals playing with Marner, he is much harder to replace than matthews IMO. sure its nice to have a 60 goal scorer, but you can probably fill in 2 players for matthews 11m salary and get 40 from each of them. (im personally in a belief the leafs should trade matthews for mcdavid which would really change the team dynamic to 2 terrifying lines)


10.) 12 Oct 2022
12 Oct 2022 15:49:41
@Hrenklin

Kadri just had his best season without Marner. He was also a 30g scorer before Marner was even drafted.

Mathews was on pace for 50+ every year without Marner, he was just more injury prone.

JT, one time, is basically the only one you can argue.