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13 Apr 2024 21:10:56
Now might be the time to pick the carcass of the failed Yotes. I'm sure not everyone will want to move to Utah.
They seem to really. like Jack mcbain, but I'd love to throw some offers out there. Maybe Robertson+late-ish pick?
1.) 14 Apr 2024 02:08:24
I'm not sure if there will be a carcass. I would assume Utah will want to be good, especially since the League is expected to buy the team for $1B.
2.) 14 Apr 2024 03:06:07
@RLF doesn't mean every player wants yo move to Utah. It's unlike any other place in NA in a lot of ways, ans they signed up for Arizona.
Good time to at least try.
3.) 14 Apr 2024 05:44:47
It is the management who determine the trades not the players.
4.) 14 Apr 2024 13:17:07
LL. Yes, but as waterbuffalo said, the players under team control don't get to decide, unless you are predicting a revolt from the players. I doubt players wanted to go from Atlanta to Winnipeg either. Does Robertson+ get McBain? Maybe. But I don't think it will be because all the players demand to get out of playing in Utah.
5.) 15 Apr 2024 13:37:06
The fact that Arizona has to win the land auction, for their new arena and the league already has Utah as a contingency plan. Kinda stinks of some shady dealings. Someone just has to outbit Yates ownership (the league and or Utah owners) .
6.) 15 Apr 2024 19:22:33
Leafs67. It is weird isn't it.
7.) 15 Apr 2024 22:42:08
@L67 the best part is the league taking 200m for no reason.
8.) 16 Apr 2024 14:26:02
Vegas paid 500M, Seattle 650M.
Utah 700+M?
Outbit the Yotes, then flip the property. Almost seems to easy lol.
9.) 16 Apr 2024 21:53:50
@L67 pretty sure Utah is paying 1.2b.
10.) 17 Apr 2024 11:29:37
Wow! So is the fee just gonna continue to double?
11.) 17 Apr 2024 21:16:26
Yeah, franchise values are skyrocketing league wide. If you pay 1.2b to acquire the Yotes, what is a real team worth?
12.) 18 Apr 2024 13:52:17
I believe the $1.2B is for lock stack and barrel. Players, management, equipment etc. The fees paid by Vegas and Seattle were just for the franchise fees. How does that all equate value wise? I have no idea.
13.) 18 Apr 2024 14:57:55
@RLF they're calling this an "expansion" though, so I'm assuming it's a way of pulling some shady moves to make more money.
14.) 18 Apr 2024 16:24:20
LL. IIRC, there is something in their about the current Yotes ownership has 5 years to be able to bring a team back to Arizona or something like that. New arena site, Shovels in the ground on a new arena, finances in order etc have to all be done in 5 years. It is a strange situation. It's like the League is giving the owner $1B and 5 years to get it done and then charging the Utah group $1.2B to have the franchise, but Arizona ownership has 5 years to show they can have a franchise and likely the League then charges them a franchise fee. I don't know. It's confusing.
15.) 18 Apr 2024 19:15:37
@RLF that's the odd part. It's like a billion dollar loan, as he also has to spend 1B if he wants the team.
29 Mar 2024 21:37:35
Good signing for Benoit and the team. He almost doubles his salary going forward, gets a 3 year deal, and still has something to play for as he will expire in his late 20s.
Tre getting him at a bottom pairing number for 3 years is also stellar.
It brought me back to the Justin Holl and Pierre Engvall signings seeing this recently. Middle 6 and bottom pairing players Dubas signed vs McCann and Benoit for Tre. I have to look at this as almost exactly the same situation, except Tre did a better job.
1.) 30 Mar 2024 02:50:15
McMann not McCann.
Dubas left McCann unprotected in the expansion draft in order to protect Justin Holl.
2.) 30 Mar 2024 03:17:54
@WB yes, I know the name, I watch him quite a lot lol.
Auto-coerect always changes it, and I figured everyone (other than you apparently), understood.
3.) 30 Mar 2024 04:49:07
It is great signing we see how many more they sign b4 end of season
Robertson 2 years $1.35 mil per
Liljegren 3 years x $3 million per
Domi 3 years x $2.5 million per
Bertuzzi 4 years $3.5 million per
Jones 2 years $1.35 million per
2 players that don need a lot of high talent around them and can drive lines Matthews and Marner.
4.) 30 Mar 2024 12:21:13
Sorry I don't want lily or Robertson back I hope they are in a pkg for a legit top 4 d man.
5.) 30 Mar 2024 13:43:00
All his signings with term are big and physical and play a heavy style of game. Not talking about Willy obviously. I mean Reaves, Benoit, McMann and yes, even Kampf. He will evaluate Boosh and Edmundson and then if he likes them, I wouldn't be surprised if he can get them at the right number to try and extend them. Benoit and Boosh as a 3rd pair tendem wouldn't upset me at all. Rielly and McCabe as the top pair. Then have to fill in the middle.
Johnny. What I have been saying for a while as well. I just don't see Liljegren do anything well enough to compensate for his lack of physical prowess defensively. Maybe with the right partner? I am definitely not sold on him being more than a #5.
Mackin. I see Robertson and Jones as the only realistic numbers you have there.
6.) 30 Mar 2024 18:03:16
I see lily as nothing more than a 3rd pairing guy as well and he's soft.
7.) 31 Mar 2024 17:54:34
Come on David, I told you to pick a new favourite.
Robertson and Llyigren will be traded at the draft to San Jose and Anaheim for picks.
Bertuzzi I would resign but only at $3.5
Domi will be not be resigned, and Jones will be replaced with Talbot.
Get on the Barbolini train David as Robertson is leaving.
01 Mar 2024 05:06:07
Great trade.
3rd and late pick for Boosh at 675k?
Well played tree.
1.) 01 Mar 2024 11:30:51
Indeed Trev got it right this time. Still has cap space plus with Giordano most likely going on LTIR just got back all that cap space plus more. We’ll done ??.
2.) 01 Mar 2024 11:42:52
I’m down on this trade yes they didn’t give up much but boosh isn’t the difference maker they need I hope he targets a decent forward.
3.) 01 Mar 2024 12:34:43
Good trade. When you can get a physical 3rd pair D for a 3rd and 6th and for $675K, how can someone complain.
4.) 01 Mar 2024 12:37:54
Not a flashy trade, but and absolutely Solid trade! That plus Woll back in net. Things are starting to look up.
18 Jan 2024 15:55:23
Everyone is screaming for Keefe to be fired because that will fix these issues. Although I agree, I think you need to point out how bad this team is on the back end and depth.
JT 24g 64 pts
Marner 36g 94 pts
Mathews 68g 100 pts
Willy 42g 104 pts
That's the pace the big 4 are on. If wr look around the league at what 11 million dollars gets you on other teams, this just isn't it. Mathews is earning his money, Willy was until his contract was signed now he's fallen off a cliff, JT is playing like a 3C not a 1B, and Willy once again will not hit 100pts for that money.
What is another coach going to do here exactly? Make JT 5 years younger and Marner into a better player? Marner is a good player, but he isn't elite imo.
Looking at the D is even worse. Rielly is alone on an island. He's the only one producing from the back end at all, and Gio/ Brodie are almost unplayable. McCabe is what he is, but shouldn't be in there for 20+ minutes and Benoit is a fantastic 5-6 right now, but he isn't winning the Norris anytime soon.
What does another coach do here? I really don't see any difference.
Fire Keefe, but don't expect a cup with this roster no matter who they hire.
1.) 18 Jan 2024 16:35:40
The coach creates and implements systems. Their D zone coverage and penalty killing are brutal. So the players are either lousy or they’re not listening to the coaches, or both. Old saying is you can’t fire all the players so coach is first to go. I’d trade marner in a heartbeat but he won’t likely waive. I’d even let him walk into UFA when the time comes, just to recoup the cap space. You sign two very good players for the same money he’d want.
Keefe has to go, fair or not. Berube is probably the best option. Maybe Gallant.
2.) 18 Jan 2024 16:35:49
The blue line is the problem after Reilly, Benoit has been great for a bottom pairing guy. Bottom 6 guys have no identity and Samsonov pissed away a lot of points for the team. They'd be comfortably be in a playoff spot the trade deadline can't fix all the holes this team has and I'd rather they didn't trade away picks and prospects for rentals. Thus current team will be steamrolled in the 1st round.
3.) 18 Jan 2024 16:45:10
I think they need a coach that has a set off on him. Someone that’s willing to hold everyone accountable, equally. Shouldn’t matter the name on the jersey or how much you make. Right now, it doesn’t feel that way.
4.) 18 Jan 2024 17:15:55
I will rinse and repeat what I have said for probably going on two months. This isn't the year to go for it. We are looking at 1-2 years down the road we may have the team in place to go for it. I am still for firing Keefe. Bring in a guy with experience that can start to use this year to mold the team into how he wants it, Has to be a guy who likes heavy team play because we know that's what Tree would like to build.
5.) 18 Jan 2024 17:25:58
@CKPS I agree Keefe isn't the man for the job, I'm just pointing out that all the hate on Keefe is a bit unjustified.
I don't see a coach in the world that makes this D-corps look like anything more than it is. After Mo you have nothing.
After the big 4, they have nothing. JT isn't what he once was. His 5 on 5 numbers have been steadily declining and now he's in pace for 60 points.
What difference does a coach make?
6.) 18 Jan 2024 18:19:04
They need some more two way players and more rhd they have 3-4 forwards who are considered defensive players their pk sucks their pp isn’t much better there is some bright spots on this roster but it’s the same every year the blueline is sub par or below average and if the big guys aren’t producing they are not winning but they also take up all the ice time.
7.) 19 Jan 2024 01:46:04
If Keefe is fired then Treliving should be fired as well.
He’s the one who gave Keefe, Klingberg, Reaves, Bertuzzi, Domi, overpaid Kampf and allowed Schenn and Gustafsson to walk.
Treliving is the brilliant strategist who trade Lafferty for a 5th round pick instead of waiving Reaves.
Treliving’s waste of $20M in cap space condemned Keefe!
Treliving has had 8 months on the job and look at the state of the Leafs.
8.) 19 Jan 2024 12:45:48
Waterbuffalo
So letting two 3rd pair D-men, both in their 30's walk, is a massive issue? Have you not lobbied constantly that the Leafs need to stop signing older guys?
Treliving has made mistakes. Every GM does. He has also made some shrewd signings and moves. Let's say he signed Schenn and Gustafsson like you wanted. That means no Benoit who is basically Schenn but a lot younger and cheaper. Wouldn't Gustafsson have taken our "2nd best defenceman" Liljegren's spot. That is also $3.6M on two 30+ year old D-men. You say Leafs shouldn't go after Tanev because he is 34, but wanted Tree to re-sign Schenn, who is 34.
all of this is revisionist history. You look at guys having good seasons elsewhere and say Tree should have done this or that and since he didn't, he has a list of blunders.
Most that are saying fire Keefe, said the same thing before Treliving got here, so it isn't based off of this year alone.
9.) 19 Jan 2024 15:11:27
But I think WB has a point. Tre did mess up a lot of the pick ups and never improved the D. I don’t think Keefe is the right coach here but I do think Tre hand cuffed him with a worse D than last year and Brodie is pretty much unusable. Keefe was set up to fail this year but he should have adjusted to a more defensive style and running two lines into the ground is not the answer. I really believe Bert and Domi along with a few others would thrive under a new coach. Bert does not like Keefe, he is probably sick of getting yelled at for what Nylander does every shift.
10.) 19 Jan 2024 17:56:08
Clarky. I admitted Tree made mistakes, but not re-signing Schenn for 3X$2.75M and not re-signing Gustavsson was not one of the mistakes.
Klingberg was also signed for the D, but is injured. In the end, no harm no foul as he is out for the season. People seem to forget Klingberg was supposed to be part of it. Brodie was supposed to be better than he has been. Liljegren was supposed to take another step, he hasn't. This is not actually playing like the the D-core that it was envisioned to be.
Let's also not forget the he wasn't allowed to participate in the draft, which also means hard to make a deal at the draft, even if he wanted to, when you can't be there.
He got Matthews to sign for a modest raise, which is looking like a steal. That never gets talked about.
All the good signings he made never gets talked about. Benoit, Lagesson, Jones, Gregor.
He took Sammy to arbitration instead of giving into him for around $5N with term. Waterbuffalo wanted Samsonov re-signed and said why go after Hellebuyck when we have Samsonov.
Let's also not forget he had very little cap space and lots of holes to fill with no assets to use to get good players. Free agency was the only way.
I keep hearing how he should have got his guy or that because people see these guys doing well on other teams and making less than say Bertuzzi. No one knows if they even wanted to come here or would have done well here. It's all speculation.
That is why I said it's revisionist history. Should have because I now see what these other guys are doing and it seems better than what we have.
Dubas was here for years, so I feel he is fair to criticize. Tree has been here a few months under almost impossible circumstances and people want a miracle Stanley Cup contender built. I said in the off-season, I have no idea how we can build a good team with such little cap space and so few assets. People had unrealistic expectations is the problem. That and people flip flopping from what they said in the past and now trying to claim they know better when they said the opposite in the past.
11.) 19 Jan 2024 19:01:00
@RLF yes he made some good minor decisions but anything with any substance not so well. Taking Sammy to arbitration and $100,000 signing bonus to Jones are his highlights (Benoit as well but lucky) . We needed a #1 RHD and got Klingberg. Yes he got injured but Tre did nothing since. Year is now a waste. Willy signing represents everything the True Leaf fans didn’t want to happen. Over signing wingers with no heart and still don’t have depth or D.
05 Dec 2023 22:54:56
Tor Robertson
Oilers Broberg
Two struggling prospects, roughly the same age and salary. Both need a change.
1.) 06 Dec 2023 02:49:19
I like it!
2.) 06 Dec 2023 11:36:48
Leafs might need to add a bit, but I like the thought.
3.) 06 Dec 2023 14:30:20
I don't think the leafs ass, broberg was picked higher but Robertson is still with the big club.
4.) 06 Dec 2023 15:41:07
I figured there would be a Broberg prop pretty quick after he asked for a trade. Edmonton can't really take on any cap, so cap in/ out is necessary. I would say value of the prop is reasonable. Do they want a possible young scorer in return?
What about something like Samsonov for Foegele and Broberg?
5.) 06 Dec 2023 17:22:44
@RLF that would be even better for me.
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25 Apr 2024 18:14:28
I said it before and I'll say it again, that 4th line isn't getting enough credit.
Dewar is a machine out there. Even when they end up against the Pasta line, they're finishing every check, Reaves is taking runs at everyone (without penalties), it's just been great.
All credit to Ryan Reaves especially. We were talking about buying him out a couple months ago, now he looks like a solid contributor.
1.) 25 Apr 2024 18:33:52
That whole line has been very good. Kampf has been doing an awesome job of cycling the puck and has a goal. The D has not been the issue everyone thought it might be either. The whole team seemed a little flat last night, but other than that, the D hasn't been the issue. The difference has mostly been goaltending and Keefe being married to his line combinations and thinking Marner playing at 50% of his capabilities is going to get a win.
Goaltending and coaching, that's the difference. imo
I couldn't ask the team to compete any harder really. For the most part, they are competing and it is mostly the guys Tree brought in. Domi, Bert, Edmundson, Benoit, Reaves, Dewar, Boosh along with McCabe, Matthews, Kampf and I have liked Holmberg for the most part. By no means have I felt Boston has been the clearly better team.
Robertson has been fine, but if he wants to be in the lineup, he has to produce, which he hasn't.
2.) 25 Apr 2024 20:49:34
Robertson is like a chicken without a head. He's always doing something, but I'm never sure if it's good or not.
3.) 26 Apr 2024 12:38:43
LL. lol. Pretty much Robertson. As I said earlier in the year, he needs to learn to read plays and slow down. He goes full blast all the time even when unnecessary. I admire the energy, but a lot of it is wasted energy.
4.) 26 Apr 2024 14:10:52
Yes, Keefe at it again, what a doorknob.
Rolling 4 lines was going well in Boston, but as soon as we get home ice he starts inserting Marner up and down the line up. Just ridiculous.
The 4th line has been playing well, aside from the one Reaves missed assignment. By playing the energetic 4th line to help tire out some of Boston's Dmen helps the top lines play against a more tired & worn down defense, it's not rocket science Keefe.
I guess this is why the Leafs play better on the road, no galaxy brain from Keefe. He really has to go.
24 Apr 2024 00:58:18
Anyone got a theory on Willy Styles? He never gets injured, looks fine when skating, but he isn't playing and no one is talking. All of this after Keefe's comments about him.
1.) 24 Apr 2024 09:13:08
The whole thing is strange can’t remember the last time I heard a player sitting out of playoff games due to discomfort and then practice the next day…. I wish they would just come out and say it.
2.) 24 Apr 2024 12:54:44
I did write this below to this question, but will re-post;
I remember him getting hit around the redline last game against the boards and Willy was angry. You could tell he yelled at the guy. I think that is when whatever it is happened.
Let's also remember that Tree wants no information on injuries being made public. Discomfort could be worse than it sounds, but that is what Keefe is told to say.
3.) 24 Apr 2024 15:34:33
I question nylanders character a bit here tho the guy is healthy enough to take part in practice and stay out after practice to shoot around be he can’t play? Tbh idk if you want a guy with that mindset coming into this series haven’t heard anything on mcmann at all either.
4.) 24 Apr 2024 15:55:55
I don't question Willy's character/ commitment, he's pretry much our 'iron man'.
Personally, I think it's a back issue. He just might be trying to stay loose with the extra skating he's doing after running line drills with Holmberg & Jarnkrok.
If he's tightening up around game time, then sit again till Saturday. But, if he's loose, maybe he'll be a go.
5.) 24 Apr 2024 18:07:35
@tagz come on man we are trying to win a cup here tkachuck played with a broken sternum last year guys play with all kinds of thing this year to me if you are hurt enough you can’t play then you shouldn’t be taking line rushes what kind of message does that send to your team mates.
6.) 24 Apr 2024 21:28:54
@goat rumours out that his migranes are the issue. Hopefully he plays tonight.
7.) 24 Apr 2024 23:09:12
Maybe ribs, who knows.
Go Leafs Go!
8.) 25 Apr 2024 10:25:43
Maybe he is missing a twig and berries between his legs.
22 Apr 2024 23:52:35
I'm so tired of hearing what a great defensive forward Marner is.
He isn't Willy (who is a liability), but he gets caught puck watching way too often. Second goal, puck watching all the way, then remembered one of the best snipers in the game is all alone, and fell over.
1.) 23 Apr 2024 13:01:43
LL. Puck watching is a bad habit of too many Leafs. They don't identify their man, they identify the puck carrier. Marner is definitely guilty of that. Too many Leafs are like the squirrel in the Ice Age movie chasing the acorn.
2.) 23 Apr 2024 17:36:19
@RLF lol. I like that one.
3.) 23 Apr 2024 18:28:37
You’re right LL. But I wonder if it’s just his mindset?
While Marner is effective on the PK he’s bad defensively 5-on-5.
On the PK he is required to think defensively so it’s top-of-mind so he goes about his business angling point me to the away their options. He blocks shots and intercepts passes.
5-on-5 he cheats and doesn’t anticipate or see open players in danger areas. He should have been on Pastranak, no question.
21 Apr 2024 02:49:12
Great game from Mathews and MO. Liked what they both brought.
Marner was exactly what I expected.
4th line looked great. Loved the energy.
1.) 21 Apr 2024 12:39:45
4L was fine but Reaves cost the first goal. He made a bad decision and left his position to make a hit causing a 2-on-1.
I left with 2 minutes remaining in 2nd - couldn’t stomach the play.
At that time Matthews and MO were non-factors IMO but maybe they picked it up in the 3rd.
Goaltending and special teams were the difference.
The Bruins execute extremely well and are very disciplined. They play the game right and play it smart.
Need Nylander and McMann back for game2. Need a split for sure.
2.) 21 Apr 2024 12:45:22
I thought the team looked pretty good. Effort was good. Physicality good. They lost because of bad penalties and we are still seeing lost confidence Sammy, which is what I was afraid of. He is over playing his reads and can't find pucks through traffic. Really missed Willy and McMann.
3.) 21 Apr 2024 16:13:43
Mo looks slow like gio slow if the leafs want to do anything in this series that have to put domi at centre our bottom six is t good enough and for the love of god someone move a body infront of the net.
4.) 22 Apr 2024 13:14:55
1st goal partially Reeves partially lily? When did take the shooter on a 2 on 1 become a thing.
20 Apr 2024 23:47:21
What's up with Willy? I don't remember him ever getting hurt.
1.) 21 Apr 2024 16:14:36
I find it odd that discomfort is keeping him out this being after the keefe comments of nylander being checked out for weeks.
2.) 21 Apr 2024 20:14:52
@Goat that's my thing as well. When's the last time Qillt was even injured?
3.) 22 Apr 2024 12:56:16
I remember him getting hit around the redline last game against the boards and Willy was angry. You could tell he yelled at the guy. I think that is when whatever it is happened.
26 Apr 2024 16:00:00
@Clarky good point lol.
26 Apr 2024 03:34:36
He's struggled with migraines for years.
That's also not true. Repeated hits to the head can 100% cause migraines.
25 Apr 2024 20:42:54
I don't want Hubby. He's been so bad, they pay a lot just to unload him.
25 Apr 2024 17:59:57
Why does everyone still want Chychrun?
25 Apr 2024 01:00:13
I can't stand Zegras. Most overrated player in hockey.
25 Apr 2024 20:49:34
Robertson is like a chicken without a head. He's always doing something, but I'm never sure if it's good or not.
25 Apr 2024 20:42:00
Depending on how bad the migraines are, I can't blame him too much there.
25 Apr 2024 17:59:32
@RLF that's pretty much exactly what I would have said as well.
Sammy hasn't been bad, but you don't win letting in these mediocre goals. I think Sammy will start unless it's really bad.
Mitchy does this every year. I have no doubt this is just who he is. He cannot play in physical series'. He doesn't match up well with the B's or Cats.
Willy plays the same style of trying to avoid getting hit, but he's a much better skater, and does a better job avoiding contact without looking scared. Not to say Willy is any different, he does make horrible decisions to avoid contact, but less often.
25 Apr 2024 04:33:51
Send Marner. I don't even want look at him on the ice anymore.
24 Apr 2024 00:01:26
@Clarky is Lilly better? He's been a mess as well. Why not give Brodie a try. He's been great his whole career.