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25 Mar 2023 23:42:19
At the conclusion of a 1st rd exit, Shanahan, Dubas & Keefe are let go. NHL at the request of the Leafs reinstates Bowman as CEO & GM of the Leafs & Queenville as Leafs coach who decides on his assistant coaches. Toews retires and becomes an assistant coach to Queenville.

Murray & a 1st rd pick in 2024 to any team that will take him.

Kerfoot, Holl & Aston-Reese would not be resigned.

Kane signs 3 yr deal @ 4 million
Domi signs 3 yr deal @ 3 million
O'Reilly signs 3 yr deal @ 2.5 million
Jordan Staal signs a 3 yr deal @ 2 million

Bunting Matthews Marner
Nylander Tavares Kane
Knies O'Reilly Domi
Lafferty Staal Jarncrock

Depth : Holmberg, McMann, Robertson, Steeves, Abruzzese

Reilly Brodie
McCabe Liljegren
Giordano Timmins

Samsonov Woll

* Leafs win the Cup

There is great joy in Leafland

Team mates convince Kane it is ok take a cab ride to the afterparty

Bieber supplies 1967 pounds of celebratory Bieberbits for the celebration.


1.) 26 Mar 2023 15:36:49
Kane with the Leafs, there's a shocker. lol
How much are Bunting and Knies getting?

2.) 26 Mar 2023 16:06:25
The Leafs certainly do NOT need to pay a 1st to trade Murray.

3.) 26 Mar 2023 20:52:20
@Tbuds Who would take Murray without a first being included?

4.) 28 Mar 2023 12:23:40
Kane O'Rielly and Stall. Did the leafs just become the a team in a seniors league?

I do like Queenville as the coach.



19 Mar 2023 14:23:36
Going all in with one more shot at a cup with core 4 & Reilly, if they cant get it done this year.

Murray bought out

Kerfoot, Simmonds, Aston-Reese leave in free agency

Sign Reilly, Samsonov & Acciari our own UFA's

Then sign Pavelski, Pacioretty & Jordan Staal

O'Reilly Matthews Marner
Jarncrock Tavares Nylander
Pacioretty Pavelski Lafferty
Knies Staal Acciari

Depth : Robertson, Steeves, Holmberg, McMann, Abruzzese

Reilly Brodie
McCabe Liljegren
Giordano Timmins

Samsonov Woll

Pacioretty ( of course all dependent on his health ) & Pavelski both highly motivated wanting to win a Cup & former Captains as well. Staal has the one cup with Penguins in 2009, also a former captain if he leaves the Hurricane.

Free agent signings proposed bring a good mix of size, toughness, skill & leadership.

Pavelski has proved durable & productive, & with a healthy Pacioretty that would be a dominant 3rd line. Speed of Lafferty gives his linemates more offensive opportunities, by creating turnovers on the forecheck.

The Staal 4th line designed to crash & bang, shut it down while adding a little offense on occassion.

* Leafs win 1st cup since 1967


1.) 20 Mar 2023 00:48:16
Great idea!
Leafs will become the oldest team in the league with those signings!

2.) 20 Mar 2023 12:10:05
Ok. So even using Muzzin's LTIR after buying out Murray, the Leafs have about $13M in cap space. They are going to sign O'Reilly, Samsonov, Acciari, Pavelski, Pacioretty, Staal and add Knies and Woll with their contracts?

Can you break down the signings Kennedy?

3.) 20 Mar 2023 17:54:16
Typo. "$17M in cap space. "

4.) 21 Mar 2023 15:13:58
Pretty sure I read somewhere that pavelski won’t play in Canada. He’s one of the American players that has Canada on his no trade clause. Same as Ryan suter.

5.) 21 Mar 2023 22:31:16

6.) 24 Mar 2023 12:39:03
Apparently Kennedy cannot break down his signings. lol.



14 Mar 2023 23:29:12
Matthews trade to a non playoff team even Arizona, seems highly unlikely. Another major obstacle is the arena Arizona plays in, by the standards of millionaire players, billionaire owners or elite corporations not much of a draw yet for Matthews or Bedard. Other than to get an 8 year deal a sign & trade seems highly unlikely. Matthews will bet on himself & bet on the cap going up likely a 5 year deal. Arizona knows if Matthews come knocking as a UFA in 2024, they will have the cap space & they do not have to give up assets. Like the Leafs when they acquired Tavares as a UFA.

What seems much more likely a contender goes all in

Matthews & Nylander to the NYR for Chytil, Lafreniere, Kakko & a 1st rd pick in 2023 & 2024. Leafs eat half of the caphit on both contracts.

To let either of Matthews or Nylander walk as UFA's, is 10 fold worse than when Sundin left as a UFA. Sundin was on his last legs, Matthews & Nylander have many great seasons ahead of them.

Leafs would have two 1st rd picks in 2023 with one from Washington ( currently the 12th overall pick in 2023 ) & one from the NYR. Then two 1st rd picks in 2024 their own & the Rangers.

Leafs resign Bunting & buyout Murray.

Leafs 2023 / 2024 roster

Bunting Tavares Marner
Lafreniere Chytil Kakko
Knies Holmberg Robertson
Steeves Lafferty Jarncrock

Depth : Anderson, Minten, Voit, Abruzzesse, McMann.

Reilly Brodie
McCabe Liljegren
Giordano Timmins

Woll Kallgren


1.) 15 Mar 2023 05:48:39
I don't think Mathews does a 5 year deal, but I can see him doing a 2-3 year deal.

2.) 15 Mar 2023 16:16:21
They don’t have the Washington pick they have bostons which will likely be the 32.

3.) 16 Mar 2023 10:27:35
I don’t think Murray is bought out I think he’s traded there will be teams that are willing to take on that contract for 1 year.



05 Mar 2023 00:35:37
Goaltending unfortunately may be the Leafs undoing, along with Nylander& Matthews not resigning. A 1st rd exit means new management.


Brodie, Liljegren & Woll

Leafs acquire six 1st rd picks 3 -8

3rd Michkov RW
4th Carlsson C / LW
5th Benson LW / RW ( shoots left )
6th Crystall LW
7th Smith C
8th Sale RW

Bring Michkov over for 2024 / 2025 season, will have to pay his KHL club a kings randsom.

Leafs top 6 in 2024 / 2025

Benson Carlsson Michkov
Crystall Smith Sale

McCabe, Timmins & Jarncrock still under contract for 2024 / 2025. Play all the prospects give 100 + games, a decent sample size too help guage their development. Not that everyone is a Kucherov but one wonders, would Kuch have had a second season as a Leaf. Kucherov only had 18 pts in 52 games season 1, so a Robertson with 7 pts in 31 games unspectacular thus far, but still a little early to write him off despite injury woes.

Liljegren( resign )

Leafs would have high draft picks in 2024 & 2025
1st rd top 5 pick in 2024
1st rd top 10 pick in 2025

Draft defenseman with the 1st rd picks in 2024 & 2025, attempt to draft the best dman in each respective draft. Draft goalies & dmen with 2nd, 3rd , 4th rd picks in 2024 & 2025.

Goal is make somewhat of a playoff run in 2025 / 2026

Sign Hedman as a UFA in 2025

Sign McDavid & Makar as a UFA in 2026.

2026 / 2027 roster

Benson McDavid Michkov
Crystall Carlsson Sale
Robertson Smith Voit
Knies Minten Hirvonen

Makar Liljegren
Hedman Niemela
3rd pairing dman drafted in 2024 & 2025
7th dmen drafted in 2024 or 2025

or goalies drafted in 2024 or 2025

By 2026 / 2027 team is an elite team, & one of the favourites to win a Stanley Cup in the 4th year of a rebuild.


1.) 05 Mar 2023 02:25:15
If they don't make it out of the 1st round again, I might be on board.

2.) 05 Mar 2023 03:13:03
After tonight in Van what I see is more a leadership/ Heart issue. I imo see the Bruins as ta unstoppable force. After I read a article about the dressing room and how they are so united and focused I believe that Boston is headed where they clearly belong to Lord Stanley. I am not a Bruins fan but they are seemingly unstoppable this year. They wouldn’t lose to Vancouver they wouldn’t give up not 1 but 2 shorties idk boys but this Leaf team jus doesn’t have what it takes from what I’ve watched. I’ve been a Leaf fan for 30yrs and this was the best chance they’ve had. The opportunity has been blown, and as much as I dislike him, Dubas has done a admirable job this yr with the additions made but it’s not enough. Sorry for the long rant guys but what I’m getting at is I’m on board with Kennedy for ONCE lol. Good prob man think that’s inevitably what will happen. This team will once again break our hearts. Don’t know about a first round exit but we’re not going far. ?.

3.) 05 Mar 2023 03:25:44
@Henry I've mentioned that a few times.

Different players have spoken about a poor dressing room after leaving the team, but we all just thought it was disgruntled players.

Babs spoke about issues with effort and he was fired. Keefe is now having the same issues. Maybe it is just something with the core.

4.) 05 Mar 2023 03:59:42
@LL Agreed, I’m not sure who it is or why it hasn’t been addressed but it will ultimately be the team’s undoing. Marner is so good, Nylander has actually really impressed me with his maturity and play this yr and fingers crossed Matthews is saving his best for April but something is suspicious with the core and it’ll become evident come summer, guess we’ll have to wait unfortunately but change is definitely on the horizon buddy. Enjoy the rest of what’s left of your Saturday night guys.

5.) 06 Mar 2023 13:52:43
What former players spoke of a bad dressing room? Anyone recent?

6.) 06 Mar 2023 18:23:58
@Loxley Kapanen, Ozhiganov, and Zaitsev come to mind.

7.) 07 Mar 2023 11:44:17
@LL. In all fairness that was a while ago. Around the same time Matthews didn't want Hyman on his wing. I think they have all matured since then.

8.) 07 Mar 2023 13:36:36
@LL. well other than maybe Kapanen i would take what the other 2 may have said with a grain of salt. i mean neither one have had a stellar career, Zaitsev never regained his form from that first year. as for Kapanen he was placed and claimed on waivers. if he could not play well enough on a team with Crosby. has me questioning the type of player he is. So many trades i see people wanting to bring him back and i am always like. "why". he was ok when he was hear but nothing special.



02 Mar 2023 00:20:16
Kuzmenko 950 K to the Leafs for Robertson & a 1st rd pick in 2023 ( acquired from Washington for Sandin, the pick was originally Bostons ) & Leafs 1st rd pick in 2024.

Bunting Matthews Nylander
Jarncrock Tavares Marner
Kuzmenko O'Reilly Lafferty
Acciari Kampf Aston-Reese

Depth ; Holmberg, Knies, Steeves, Simmonds

Reilly Brodie
McCabe Gustafsson
Giordano Liljegren

Depth : Holl & Timmins

Samsonov Murray


1.) 02 Mar 2023 03:43:19
Gustafsson over Schenn no way. Schenn hits leader in NHL with SC playoff exp. Gustafsson couldnt spell defence.




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19 Feb 2023 12:16:14
Chychurin or Karlsson ?

Both with term on their contracts, both have had injury woes. Though Karlsson taking a skate over the back of his ankle, a major contributor to missed games.

What is the Leafs need ? Answer more offense from the backend = Karlsson though he is a higher risk higher reward scenario, with longer term at more $ than Chychurin so retention a must in either trade scenario.

Kudos to Dubas a very schrwed piece of work, acquiring O'Reilly & Acciari ( a somewhat underated player ). Next is the D core knowing one of your main rivals, may move heaven & earth to get Karlsson.

If trading for Chychurin

Sandin, Niemela, Holmberg & a 1st rd pick in 2024 to Arizona for Chychurin. * Obviously there is a hope Chychurin playing with elite players, would regain some of his offensive production seen in previous years.

Though if you believe Karlsson is healthy, you know what you are getting & he is productive on the PP or 5 on 5. Of course with retention needed over years left on his contract, pkg will be very sweet as he is on the cusp of winning a Norris if he stays healthy.

Sandin, Kerfoot, Niemela, Robertson, Hirvonen, Engvall & a 1st & 3rd rd pick in 2024 & 2025 to SJ for Karlsson. With SJ eating 40 % of Karlsson contract leaving a caphit to the Leafs of 6.9 million.

Along with acquiring Karlsson, accounting for possible injuries in playoff : a small pkg to acquire Schenn

Reilly Brodie
Giordano Karlsson
Schenn Liljegren

* Reality is either Chychurin or Karlsson will see a boost in their offensive production, by playing on that much more of a highly skilled team. Same will hold true for O'Reilly if healthy as he offers leadership, grit, playmaking a smart two way positional player often in the right spots at the right time ( similar to a Mark Stone ). Though a Dubas doubter letting my impatience get the better of me, credit where it is due a handy piece of work. Needs 1 more D man Karlsson should be the target.

Of the two Chychurin or Karlsson who would you think would have a burning desire to finally host the Stanley Cup.

Noteworthy Karlsson last two playoffs an absolute beast #'s listed below . His #'s this regular season suggest more of the same in the post season, and his goal scoring has improved with 18 goals in 57 games this season. So Karlsson is on pace for 25+ goals & to win the Norris, yes the Leafs could use some of that as could the Oilers.

GP Goals Assists. Pts
OTT 19 2 16 18
SJS 19 2 14 16




20 Oct 2022 23:05:33
Preduction Leafs on Nov. 11th lose to Pittsburg & have 9 to 11 pts, the very next game an assiatant for 1 game will be the interm coach against Vancouver on Nov. 12.

In the rematch on Nov. 15th Joel Queenville or Barry Trotz is the coach. Leafs thereafter make 2 trades, Chychurin & Patrick Kane become Leafs.

Bunting Matthews Marner
Nylander Tavares Kane
Robertson Holmberg Engvall
Jarnkrok Kampf Aube-Kubel

Reilly Brodie
Chychurin Sandin
Giordano Liljegren

Samsonov Kallgren

* Leafs win the Cup a coast to coast celebration ensues, the ghosts of 1967 are finally

* Cup is a little banged up afterwards, MLSE pays for the Cup restoration all good.

Matthews does not sign an extension, & is traded to Arizona.

Kane signs a 1 yr deal

Toews signs a 1yr deal plays 3rd line C

Giordano signs another 1 yr deal

Leafs acquire a 2nd line C in a trade

Leafs repeat as Cup champion in 2023 / 2024 the afterparty not quite as eloborate or as long as the first. The second Leafs Cup victory though still a coast to coast celebration, the Cup goes unscathed as celebrations are much more tame than in 2023.

* Leafs do not win another cup till the 2077 / 2078 season, a few seasons prior Marner & Matthews grankids are drafted by the Leafs. Coincidentally grandkids are named after their respective & legendary Leaf Cup champions grandfathers. Austin & Mitch play on the top line for the Leaf Cup victory in 2078.

* Thereafter Leafs do not win for a few decades into the new Century.




23 Jul 2022 19:22:27
In a stunning development Leafs have been sold to an elderly lady, a widower of a billionaire.

His first name was Nick that is all the info we have at this time, along with news on a series of Leaf trades. New owner says she wants to honour her former husband.

Leafs announced that Nick Abruzzesse, Nicholas Aube-Kubel & Nicholas Robertson are untouchables as far as trades.

Matthews to Arizona for Nick Schmaltz & Nick Ritchie

Nylander to Boston for Nick Foligno LW & Nick Wolff

Marner to Calgary for Nikita Zadorov, Nicolas Meloche & Nick DeSimone.

Sandin for Nick Blankenburg

Kerfoot to Florida for Nick Cousins.

Reilly & Muzzin to Tampa for Nikita Kucherov & Nick Paul

Leafs are currently working on more trades.


1.) 24 Jul 2022 16:32:20
1-time to paNICK

2- all in the nick of time

3- don't be a nick and drunk post.



16 Jul 2022 23:31:49
2022 / 2023 season Atlantic Division standings after 20 games, leafs with a record of 5 wins 12 losses & 3 OTL


Keefe is fired adter 20 games, and replaced with Joel Queenville or Barry Trotz. Leafs immediately make a trade for a goalie.

Murray & Samsonov will have tbe combined worst save percentage in the league. Tavares & Nylander will continue to not produce much offense 5 on 5. Nylander, along with prospects & picks are then traded for a Patrick Kane or JT Miller.

Leafs then make the playoffs




20 May 2022 09:36:32
From many unreliable reliable anonymous sources are stating, after the recent events with Mitch Marner he is being assingned a 24 hour security detail on & off the ice. The two security members also had to be able to skate for 24 hour duty. Unfortunate Matthews Marner line had to ve broken up, Marner will be driven by security in a new rubbishbox no newer than 2010 lots of rust & a cracked windshield. A car that looks like it just went through a car jacking preferably with only only 1 working headlight, a sizeable ugly dent in the front bumper, a dangling side mirror preferably drivers side and over all a really nasty paint job ideally spray painted. You can kind of get the jist of where this is goung, thereafter it is a case of who wants sloppy seconds anyways. But if that does not deter a would be carjacker, tell him you were just driving to the junkyard he might believe you. Anyways do feel bad for Mitch, Toronto not nearly what it once was. 2 too many Trudeaus incompetent corrult unethical charlatans. Undeniable Maggie should have ........d Justin.

Anways it was a tough task to find 2 security team members that would also play on a lune with Mitch, they also had to be athletic & able to skate. They had to be paid a league minimum NHL salary to go agsinst tbe xap, aside from their security detail salary. As well these two individuals had to be ample security, both on and off the ice.

Leaf 2022 / 2023 season line combinations

Tavares Matthews Nylander
Jackie Chan Marner Conor McGregor





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26 Feb 2023 22:49:30
Missed some details on trade proposal would have to add multiple picks, & approx. 25 % salary retention on Lucic & Coleman contracts.




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20 Feb 2023 13:38:55
Never say never pkg. would have to be sweet which what I proposed is, if SJ is in a rebuild the right amount of draft picks & prospects could do the trick. 1st rd picks would not be lottery protected & assets acquired by SJ, like Engvall & Kerfoot could be immediately flipped for more prospects & or draft picks.

5 players

Sandin : NHL dman third pairing with upside to play in your top 4.

Niemela & Hirvonen reasonably regarded as good prospects.

Kerfoot & Engvall defensively would be sought after for the PK particularly, SJ would then gather likely two more prospects & two more pick. So a mid tier prospect ( if you trust your team Dev. those can sometimes pan out ) & 3rd rd pick for an Engvall or Kerfoot.

Two 1st rd picks
Two 3rd rd picks

A pretty fair pkg for Karlsson

So over two drafts SJ gets 4 first rd picks, 2 second rd picks & 4 third rd picks. They would certainly have the prospects, players & draft capital to move up in the draft either year via trades if they so choose.

If you trust your scouting staff particularly with those four 1st rd picks in 2 drafts, that would be a boost to your aspirations of a quick rebuild.




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20 Feb 2023 12:42:54
Brodie is actually a LD currently playing on the right side, in my opinion Liljegren is better than Sandin anyways. Giordano & Holl as your 5th & 6th works Gio so good positionally & with his stick, that will thwart many & most of the occassional brain farts from Holl.




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19 Feb 2023 14:50:29
Or if loading up the top 6, going with a stacked top 6 with each line playing 22-25 minutes. So 44-50 minutes of the game, third & 4th lines getting combined 10 to 16 minutes. Dependent on penalties as excluding Marner many of the Leafs on the PK are bottom 6 forwards. That would remain the same despite trades.

Nylander Matthews Marner
Tavares O'Reilly Meier
Bunting Jarncrock Sheary
Kampf Acciari Aston-Reese

* Still a very capable 3rd line, all 3 players of the same ilk with some offensive upside all strong 2 way players that backcheck & forcheck.




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19 Feb 2023 14:29:58
My mistake should have been Engvall. 2.25 million, not Holl in the trade to Washinton. Possible they may be sellers.





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