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08 Jul 2026 18:35:57
Tor: OEL, Joshua, V. Johansson, T. Hopkins, 2027 1st (col).
Club: Provorov, Max McCue.
With the better partner for Raddysh being McCabe, we might need a new partner for Tanev. Add in the roster situations out in Columbus, we might have a chance to land prov.
Very well defensively minded. Fair outlet pass, and 9g 22a for Columbus has to say something about what he would do on a better team.
Also felt like looking at a target that hasn't been repeated 300 times.
1.) 08 Jul 2026 18:52:15
To give up that package to bring in Provorov at $8.5, I would rather hang on to OEL and Joshua and our 2 good prospects and the draft pick. We could keep Reilly at $7.5 and get the same production, and if Reilly was partnered with Raddysh, some old fashioned Reilly numbers.
This proposed trade is crazy to give up that package. In my opinion. Others may think you a genius.
2.) 08 Jul 2026 19:27:55
I’m w Suffering on this one but for different reasons.
Committing $8.5m for the next 5x years especially if we don’t resign Matthews is a lot.
My thoughts for the Leafs is using cash for short term contracts (like we’ve done), while building our prospect pool.
3.) 08 Jul 2026 19:53:00
Hey King. I'm not proposing we hand onto Reilly. Just that if we are bringing in a Dman with worse numbers and higher salary. It doesn't make any sense to give up that package which with OEL and Hopkins alone is taking to very good players from this organization.
4.) 08 Jul 2026 20:07:56
Oh! I get that!
I just don’t think the Leafs wanna commit to Provorov for the next 5x years at $8.5m.
5.) 08 Jul 2026 20:29:27
Yeah, I mean that contract is not bad in the future for D-men with his 30 points a year if he was solid in his own end. It is weird he gets pushed around like a little kid in front of the net yet he is not tiny. 6-1 and 225 but he is not physically strong.
Personally, I am looking forward to how Danford looks in camp. My buddy's kid skated with him a few days before the Leafs Development Camp. He is in another team's system and said that Danford is way stronger than last summer and skating is super strong as well.
6.) 08 Jul 2026 21:07:45
When it comes to Danford, I’d like to see him play for the Marlies next season. Give him big minutes, big responsibilities and see how he handles it. Developing a D-man is hard, let’s get this one right.
7.) 08 Jul 2026 21:14:02
Why is everyone thinking Provorov is supposed to be offensive? He's a lefty defensive dman that was behind Werenski on a weak Columbus team. He might want out, and has 5 years left, with the last 2 being M-ntc clauses. People forgetting if we lose Matthews, we still need to get to the cap floor.
He's 5 years younger than OEL, and has a style similar to Mattias Ekholm. His contract fits the timeline for right now. And we still get to move Rielly for a draft pick.
8.) 08 Jul 2026 21:25:21
Whoa!!!!!!! Back up the wagon and the mules for a minute Clem. Even if we lost Matthews right this minute and got nothing for him. Considering we are $2.750,000 over the cap we would certainly be in no danger of hitting the cap floor. As my Dad used to say "Are you joking in the Trophy room boy?"
9.) 08 Jul 2026 21:29:46
I get that too!
My point, I'm not sure the Leafs have a plan beyond the next 2x seasons and I’m thinking they wanna create options for the future. I just don’t see them committing $8.5m for next 5x years until they figure it out.
10.) 08 Jul 2026 21:39:15
Perhaps part of the play King is to try to figure a way to trade with Boston or Philly (Yes it would take some very creative work on behalf of Chayka with what we have to work with) to get our original 1st round pick for 2028 back. Once we have that then next season we are in position to offer sheet next summer.
11.) 08 Jul 2026 21:42:55
Keep in mind Tanev is a mouse fart to the head away from retirement.
12.) 08 Jul 2026 22:16:28
You mean from 4 years of LTIR, not retirement. But if he does come back healthy, that's a good thing. If he goes down with injury or aches and pains, with us so tight on the cap, it would give us an opportunity to see which of Danford, Chadwick, Villeneuve can step up to grab an opportunity.
13.) 08 Jul 2026 22:38:34
Mouse fart ???
I’m hoping he bounces back 100% healthy. If he does, his $4.5m X 4yrs is looking good. Remember, 10x years ago everyone thought Crosby was one mouse fart away (???).
Head injuries ? change person to person. I’m more worried about the core muscle surgery. That takes months to heal and lots can go wrong.
14.) 08 Jul 2026 23:38:46
Provorov and Raddysh would work together like Ekholm and Bouchard. Provorov can getv40 points while McCabe continues his dominance with Tanev.
15.) 08 Jul 2026 23:57:22
Hold on. In your initial post you had McCabe pairing with Tanev. Now you have switched it up.
16.) 09 Jul 2026 00:36:30
@Hrenklin
I'm out at this cost.
Personally, I wanted Provorov a few years ago when he was on his lower AAV. He plays a lots of minutes, plays in all situations and moves the puck well, but his defensive game is suspect at best. I agree with Suffering about Provorov getting pushed around too easily in the defensive zone.
Maybe playing with Tanev would help ?
If Columbus would accept a lower package, I'd be fine with targeting him and playing him on the 2nd pairing with Tanev.
17.) 09 Jul 2026 01:03:35
@Tags97
Provorov and Tanev’s contracts are pretty much both the same length ?
I still don’t see the Leafs committing to anyone for more than 2 or 3 years, until they figure out their long term game plans.
18.) 09 Jul 2026 02:28:19
@King
I see what you're saying and Chayka definitely did make all 2 and 3 year signings in FA.
I just think if they are trading for a player they really want, it won't matter if the contract is longer than 3 years.
Provorov probably wouldn't be that player.
Targeting someone like Harley would be despite having 8 years term.
I am really hoping for a big splash before the end of summer. Let's go Chayka!
19.) 09 Jul 2026 03:52:44
I couldn’t agree w you more ?
Harley is a waaaaaay better player!!!! And someone the Leafs can build around.
I just think the Leafs at this point don’t wanna invest $8.5m X 5 years on Provorov.
If a young, high ceiling player comes into play w consistent stats via trade or FA I hope the Leafs are all over it.
24 Jun 2026 18:49:06
Tor: Knies
Seattle: Wright, #7 overall, Jake O'Brien.
We have a lot of Left handed wingers, this brings in a righty, and out future #2C.
1.) 24 Jun 2026 19:25:31
Is Wright a future 2C?
Before his draft year he was supposed to be a generational game changer. He's been anything but since.
If you can take out that 7oa, send them Col 1st and make it Beniers I would be overjoyed (although it wouldn't happen).
2.) 24 Jun 2026 22:28:51
O'Brien is the 2C candidate.
3.) 25 Jun 2026 00:28:02
I like him. He needs to put on another 15 lbs though. But even being lighter he doesn't avoid the hard areas of the ice.
24 Jun 2026 14:29:10
Tor: Robertson
Col: Lehkonen
Colorado wants to shed some cap space, so moving Robertson for a playoff guy who would look good on 3LW. He's a UFA after this season, so if it fails we can recoup losses at the deadline.
1.) 24 Jun 2026 15:16:44
I don’t think Colorado does that. Once it is all said and done, Robertson will probably be $2.5 m, hopefully no higher but in this world who knows. That would only save Colorado $2m to bring in 32 points this year, scorer for a 48 point scorer in only 70 games.
You do know he was Colorado's 1st line left winger right. So 3rd line here? If Knies stays here he would be 2nd line. 1st if Knies is traded. I don’t see Colorado doing that deal.
2.) 24 Jun 2026 16:29:42
What about Landeskog, Nichuskin are also in the mix?
3.) 24 Jun 2026 17:48:02
Nichuskin possibly. Landeskog will retire as an Avalanche. You have to remember he has been the Captain there since he was 19 and even the years he took off for the insane surgery and rehab, they never appointed a Captain in his absence. He has a big impact on that team.
Even this year with the insane record they had. With him in lineup 45-7-8. Without him 10-9-3. I could see him maybe doing 2 stints of 10-12 Stretches on LTIR for phantom knee complications to help the team with cap in that way. But they will not trade their leader.
23 Jun 2026 02:45:35
Tor: 5th
Nyr: Taylor Raddysh
Sign Kapanen
There are our bottom 6 right wingers.
1.) 23 Jun 2026 12:50:01
I like it.
2.) 23 Jun 2026 16:40:54
Like the way Kapanen played with Oilers. Won’t break the bank either. Raddysh good bottom 6 as well singed to $1.5m.
15 Jun 2026 18:10:52
Tor: Maccelli
MTL: Dach
This is simple move. Switching a left handed player to a right. Both are mid 20s RFAs. Dach hits and is an energy guy that's not overly expensive wildcard that we can use in our bottom 6 right side.
1.) 15 Jun 2026 20:32:02
Have always liked Dach but has had trouble staying healthy.
But I’d do the deal.
2.) 15 Jun 2026 21:22:27
Ya, this is a tough one for me only because we saw flashes of skill towards the end of last season and with new coaching coming in he may actually have a role but as you said Dach has that truculent ability and he looked ok in the playoffs. Good post, man.
3.) 15 Jun 2026 23:53:44
Real needle mover.
Injury prone.
Inconsistent.
What’s the attraction to Dach?
Not understanding it...
4.) 16 Jun 2026 14:27:44
Dach is a guy that has never been able to put it all together. Injuries may have been a factor for not getting on a roll of any kind. He is fairly responsible defensively, but not enough that coaches will use him on the PK. If you want him at C, he's brutal on the dot. Nothing so far indicates he will help offence.
All depends on what else the Leafs do I guess if I would want to do this deal. They may need to move both Robertson and Maccelli if they are drafting McKenna and keeping Cowan. Need some size coming back, but I would probably target someone other than Dach.
5.) 16 Jun 2026 15:18:58
No thanks. Next
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29 Nov 2023 01:31:40
Anyone else starting to feel like this season is going to end up as a wash and they just trade out their UFAs to bring in assets.
1.) 29 Nov 2023 13:12:10
Hrenklin. We are basically having this discussion below. So, yea, I think a few of this could see this happening.
01 Oct 2023 20:53:55
philippe myers was placed on waivers. might be a decent pick up for a big bodied RHD.
1.) 01 Oct 2023 22:34:02
Always liked the idea of Myers as bottom pair D. jeans gave passed on him before . might be time with timmins injury . if only he used that big frame of his more than ge does.
2.) 02 Oct 2023 00:17:17
Not a big fan of Myers. I'd rather keep what we have.
3.) 02 Oct 2023 01:58:55
I've always liked P. Myers. Seemed to have all the tools etc, but just fell off the cliff. Confidence issue? The $1.4M contract is a problem.
20 Aug 2023 16:07:25
so ive ben thinking
which players would you consider trading knies for? i know hes a young prospect that doesnt look out of place on the leafs, but, we need to upgrade.
id consider knies for a few players if it came with multiple years of service
trouba: is exactly the type of player the leafs need. still has 3 years on his contrat and is NYR rangers captian so its a pipe dream.
but in a deal for like Elias lindholm (50% retained this year) at 6yr x 8m extension or 7x7 for knies and a 1st would be a considearion. or in a larger package for like bedard or something absolutely crazy.
who would you guys trade him for?
1.) 20 Aug 2023 16:38:26
I'd trade him for a lot of players. The main issue is finding a team that has a solid top6/ 4 peice, they don't want, and he has to be on a rebuilding team.
2.) 20 Aug 2023 16:55:23
Hrenklin. Good question. Definitely Lindholm would be one I would consider as long as Lindholm will extend as you said. Then it would be moving Willy for younger prospects and hopefully a D.
In a package to get Dobson, I would possibly.
He is not untouchable to me, but not far off because our prospect pool is so bad for guys with size that can play.
3.) 22 Aug 2023 18:07:26
Had to think about this one for a few days. tough thing about moving Knies is the cap issues we have. so can't just be moving knies out. would still need to move Willy out. I think I'd move move him and maybe a first for Konecny. we would not need Knies if top six is like this.
Bertuzzi. Matthews. Marner
Domi. Tavares. konecny
Then maybe Willy can be moved for a topD like Dobson and something to improve bottom 6.
4.) 23 Aug 2023 01:56:35
I agree with all here.
It's a very interesting suggestion, especially because of how his end of season/ playoffs went.
Very good topic @Hrenklin
As much as I like Knies, he could be one of many that start out fantastic, and turn to poo. It's worth a look at least.
5.) 23 Aug 2023 03:14:01
@LL I agree. likethevudea if Knies and the fact he played as well as he did just jumping onto the team and blending in so well. he's at hs highest potential in a way as everyone expects good things and he worked out well. night be time to strike when iron is hot. he plays the coaches style if hockey in a rebuilding teamwhere as my original idea of moving willy there does not fit theur rebuild. konecny wont come cheap. so maybe konecny at 50% for Knies to ertson and a 1st round pick. then move Willy ut for defensive D. I like Dobson but is he not more of an offensive Dman?
03 Dec 2022 15:51:13
Thoughts on claiming Myers from the waiver wire. 2.5m is pricy, but, we can probably make some things works once players get healthy.
1.) 03 Dec 2022 22:52:43
Leafs cannot make any waiver claim at the moment.
They have 50 contracts.
31 Jul 2021 00:21:18
So what are the leafs going to give up to get pk subban at the deadline 50% retained? I think that's the top trick up dubas's sleeve.
1.) 31 Jul 2021 06:29:41
What's the point in adding PK? Is it so he can play 3rd pair?
2.) 31 Jul 2021 11:43:40
Kyle wants everyone to see him do his stupid skating drills irl so everyone can laugh.
3.) 31 Jul 2021 12:18:14
@LG lmao.
08 Jul 2026 23:38:46
Provorov and Raddysh would work together like Ekholm and Bouchard. Provorov can getv40 points while McCabe continues his dominance with Tanev.
08 Jul 2026 21:14:02
Why is everyone thinking Provorov is supposed to be offensive? He's a lefty defensive dman that was behind Werenski on a weak Columbus team. He might want out, and has 5 years left, with the last 2 being M-ntc clauses. People forgetting if we lose Matthews, we still need to get to the cap floor.
He's 5 years younger than OEL, and has a style similar to Mattias Ekholm. His contract fits the timeline for right now. And we still get to move Rielly for a draft pick.
02 Jul 2026 16:46:17
I doubt Chayka would trade away their first trade target within 2 weeks
01 Jul 2026 17:47:24
We didn't want Lebyuskin.
26 Jun 2026 14:14:07
Clearly, I'm glad you don't understand certain things. Trading a young winger with term for a hefty return that fills I portant needs is how I bring up trading Knies. We have 5 billion left handed stick players on the wings and a massive hole at center.
We're drafting another left handed stick winger and still have a massive hole at center. How do you expect to trade for a legit #2 center using players like Dakota Joshua, Maccelli, and Robertson, to add to the draft picks we also don't have.
Are we going to use our younger players like Cowan or Danford, ornate we going to trade prospects we haven't even scratched the surface with in Koblar.
The reason Knies is tradeable is we have McKenna coming in, Cowen looked comfortable playing with Matthews and Nylander. We have issues that a big body left handed winger that has no trade protection would solidfy our long term center depth that true contenders need to have.
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