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27 Sep 2021 13:23:57
Seattle is still light at Centre. Their top draft pick is likely to not play this year so depth is an issue

To SEA: C - P. Engvall

To TOR: D - C. Fleury + 2023 4th

Cap out $1.25M

Cale Fleury is a prospect who may be a bust as he has only 1 G in 41 GP in the NHL. But the Leafs take a flyer on him in swap for Engvall who has proven more at the NHL level.

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1.) 27 Sep 2021 17:30:32
Maybe. Fleury is only 22 though (same age as Liljegren who has only 1 pt in 13 NHL games) compared to Engvall being 25. Still room for Fleury to mature. I don't think we get the extra pick though.


 

 

09 Sep 2021 11:53:24
So lots of Subban rumors, so here is what I came up with

To TOR: D - PK. Subban (50% retained) + C - M. Mcleod

To NJD: F - A. Kerfoot + F - I. Mikheyev + 2023 4th

Salary in $5.5M
Salary out $5.2M

Subban can come in and try and earn a contract. McLeod is at best a 3rd line Centre at this point on either team.

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1.) 09 Sep 2021 13:13:34
Interesting. I am not a big Subban fan as I believe he can be a distraction on a team. He is too self oriented. If he can be a team player, Long and short term for the Leafs I like it. As I have said many times, I think McLeod could break out soon.


2.) 09 Sep 2021 14:20:30
I guess to me McLeod is expendable as Herscher and Hughes are ahead of him.


3.) 09 Sep 2021 17:25:37
@T-buds. They protected him and signed him for 2 years on a very friendly deal. I think they see him as a potential 3C. Not sure Devils see him as expendable unfortunately.


4.) 09 Sep 2021 18:01:53
I don't see what Subban adds to the team. He isn't what he used to be and the defence seems pretty solid to me.


5.) 09 Sep 2021 18:37:07
@LL

Subban adds a better balance to the roster. Currently there is a left side dominance. Adding a good talent on the right side frees up the electability of reilly signing elsewhere for 9m.

Reilly/ sandin - brodie
Muzzin - subban
Dermott - holl

True that subban isn't what he used to be, but he is closer to what the team actually needs. I personally don't like the pompous jackass for his remarks he made when he was drafted by Montreal. But leafs really needed to get pietrangelo or hamailton, and the only way to keep reilly is to pay the 9m price tag.


6.) 10 Sep 2021 00:10:28
He adds a shot

Put him in somebodies wing

I like this deal it works.


7.) 10 Sep 2021 00:12:38
No chance Sandin is top pair or even close to it.

What does Subban add that Holl doesn't? I don't get why bumping Holl down helps anything.


8.) 10 Sep 2021 08:25:59
Leafs play 7 D and subban plays forward for 10 mins a night and D 10 mins a night

Spezza in the middle of the 2021 version of the bash brothers simmonds and subban . All 3 start with S and have a double letter in their names.

Then throw on that 1 thing leafs have missed since McCabe from the backend of the PP and we might have something here

Would Keefe dare try this.


 

 

16 Aug 2021 12:35:18
The Islanders are looking to fill the void of offensive players lost such as Eberle.

To NYI: F - W. Nylander + 2022 6th round pick

To TOR: D - R. Pulock + 2022 2nd round pick

The reason for the pick inclusion is Nylander is signed for 3 years vs 1 year of Pulock.

Leafs line up

Robertson Matthews Marner
Ritchie Tavares Kase
Bunting Kampf Kerfoot
Mikheyev Spezza Simmonds

Rielly Pulock
Muzzin Brodie
Sandin Holl
Dermott

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1.) 16 Aug 2021 12:49:36
I think the Isles might would have to give this some serious thought, especially with what Pulock is likely to want to stay ($8M+ is my guess) . Leafs save about $2M in cap this season, but may lose Pulock in the off-season. I think the Leafs say no to this one. If the Leafs are gong to move high end players, they need quality cheaper ELC or RFA players coming back imo. I can't see any other way they can do it to keep the player (s) they acquire.


2.) 16 Aug 2021 14:51:46
So now leafs need to sign 2 ufa Dmen for 8 million in offseason and have Boone to replace nylander and his great cap hit and money owed contract

Yeah that’s sounds like a good deal

Give your head a shake.


3.) 16 Aug 2021 19:33:00
If the Isles would do this for Dobson, I'd do it in a heart beat, but I think they prefer the younger, cheaper Dobson.

However, if the Leafs did do this, they could look to trade Rielly for a Forward and/ or picks and prospects so they only need to sign 1 UFA Dman.

Issue is Leafs are not balanced on D and don't have enough RHD, this has been an issue for years.


4.) 17 Aug 2021 17:42:58
Also I don’t think nylander would cut his hair if he went to play for lou.


5.) 19 Aug 2021 15:56:37
Nylander is the LAST guy Lou or Trotz wants, and as Randy said, Shelander's grooming requirements preclude him playing for Lou.

Puloch is a great fit with the Isles and vice-versa.


 

 

11 Aug 2021 00:11:57
If you look at the Panthers, they are deep at RHD. Not so much on LHD. Rielly is only 2 years older than Ekblad.

To TOR: D - A. Ekblad

To FLA: D - M. Rielly + F - I. Mikheyev

Both are top pairing Dmen, but the Leafs add Mikheyev to help offset salary.

Leafs new D
Muzzin Ekblad
Sandin Brodie
Dermott Holl
Liljegren

Leafs may need to add a little bit to offset that Ekblad is signed for 4 years vs Riellys 1 year.

Torontobuds

1.) 11 Aug 2021 02:17:34
Sandin isn't a top 4 D. Dermott maybe but all in all the D looks worse to me not better.

Defence wasn't the issue it was scoring.


2.) 11 Aug 2021 12:55:47
As you mentioned, Ekblad is signed for 4 years and likely for less than what Rielly will want. He is also a coveted RD and younger. Mikheyev isn't making up the difference in this deal. Rielly and Mikheyev could walk end of year and then it becomes Ekblad for one year of Rielly and 1 year of Mikheyev. Unless Rielly has an arrangement pre-deal with Florida to re-sign, I can't see this as something Florida would consider.


3.) 11 Aug 2021 14:29:20
I can agree with that. Maybe a conditional 1st on if Rielly signs or not?


4.) 11 Aug 2021 16:15:33
That would make them at least think about it.


 

 

10 Aug 2021 12:56:00
To CBJ: C - P. Engvall

To TOR: 2022 3rd round pick (TB)

This is a bottom of the 3rd round pick being owned by TB.

CBJ gets a player who can play C for them and he'll get more mins on CBJ than Toronto.

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1.) 10 Aug 2021 14:05:37
This is fine I guess. Engvall is still one of those guys that leaves me wanting more as it seems to be there, but he is so inconsistent. I would rather see if we can use Engvall to get a guy a bit buried in another teams system. A younger project type as long as a good attitude is there. Would Philly be willing to move Ratcliffe for him? (would rather have Allison, but I don't think Engvall gets Allison) That would be more what I would rather do with him.


2.) 10 Aug 2021 21:59:58
I don't disagree, but my rationale is to free up a roster spot and contract.


 

 

 

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22 Sep 2021 12:20:36
Guess this is in a non cap world lol.

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15 Sep 2021 13:07:40
Matthews is the 1 Leaf that you do NOT trade. If you want to break up the core, you would trade Nylander 1st, Marner 2nd

A slight downgrade on Nylander at RW is not terrible, and you can lower the cap charge from $6.9M to something likely in the $5M range.

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09 Sep 2021 22:04:39
You need to move Kerfoot to offset cap.

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09 Sep 2021 14:21:29
Hard pass. Lafreniere is not a franchise player and trading Rielly would not a 1st + prospect + roster player alone.

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09 Sep 2021 14:20:30
I guess to me McLeod is expendable as Herscher and Hughes are ahead of him.

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