Leafs talk 2

01 Jul 2025 21:38:56
Pretty disappointing day.

01 Jul 2025 23:18:00
I’m all for not spending on July 1 but I thought some of the deals were unnecessary let some of these kids in junior come play for the marlies.

01 Jul 2025 23:43:55
Season starts tomorrow?

02 Jul 2025 00:32:55
Feel like we always miss out on the best options and we get what’s left over. Tre is a good negotiator but man he procrastinates to pull the trigger. Marchment, Jeannot, Brazeau, Kuraly plus many more all gone for reasonable deals. Now we have to pull some sort of trade out of our ass with not many assets to give. Hopefully they start with flipping Maccelli.
On another topic, Cory Ceci’s agent needs a giant raise. This guy has got 4.5M twice now with term, that’s pretty talented from the agent IMO.

02 Jul 2025 09:54:18
Jeannette was seriously overpaid along with many other guys. I'm fine with not signing bad contracts.

Look at Nashviile. Older overpaid guys.

02 Jul 2025 11:56:18
LL maybe a little overpaid from a points perspective but he brings much more to the table that the Leafs need. Jeannot isn’t older so not sure why you brought up Nashville. Just admit we see where Tre’s deficiencies are. Great negotiations, going after big bodies all well and good. But he always has to low ball everyone to start and waits until all the good players we need are gone. He is a procrastinator when it comes to TDL and free agency. Reminds me of my wife and how we can’t buy products unless they are on sale.

02 Jul 2025 17:08:17
@Clarky Nashville committed to a tonne of guys last off season for way more money than they should have, and is now in a terrible spot.

It's in reference to bad contracts not age.

I don't mind a lot of the guys, but I would like to see one more move as well.

I really like the Nic Roy deal though.

01 Jul 2025 15:15:50
Could Fla potentially flip Marchand after that signing? They are -2.2M now and still need to sign Samoskevich and maybe a D and Vanecek unless they let him go. I don’t think trading Rodrigues or Luo’s 3M contracts is enough unless they trade both. But they maybe have to move off someone that makes 5M+ to get everyone signed. That’s Marchand, Lundell or maybe Verhaege. Interested to see how Fla and MTL get under the cap.

01 Jul 2025 15:51:44
I said Lundell may be available. Still think it makes sense for them to move him. They will likely want prospect/ picks back.

01 Jul 2025 15:52:34
Tkatchuk is on LTIR for a few months.

01 Jul 2025 23:45:26
Carey Price spells LTIR.

01 Jul 2025 08:48:15
Knies matthews
Tavares nylander
Maccelli roy Mcmann
Domi laughton

Kampf, Robertson, jarnkrok can't be in this lineup. Especially now that florida is coming back with the same team. ⁷.

30 Jun 2025 21:24:34
And there it is! Goodbye Mitch!

30 Jun 2025 21:47:45
Yep! And took $1.5M less per than he was offered here. See ya. Hope Roy does come back in the deal.

01 Jul 2025 00:08:54
Tre did pretty well getting Roy back for Marner and hopefully Maccelli can compliment Knies and Matthews.
I want Tre to go for Tanev & Jeannot. Also Mangiapanne or Beauvillier I would like some good forechecking and toughness on our bottom lines.

Laughton Roy Mangiapanne/ Beauvillier
Tanev Lorentz Jeannot

I think Kampf, Jarnkrok and Domi need to go.
Maybe Robertson stay as 13th forward.

01 Jul 2025 00:18:20
We have roughly 5.5M left. It should towards Jeannot and Patches and find a way to get rid of Kampf and Jarnkrok please.

Knies Matthews Domi (yes goofballs I’m giving him another shot with AM34, increasing his value)
Maccelli JT Nylander
McMann Roy Patches/ Cowan
Lorentz Laughton Jeannot.

30 Jun 2025 09:30:24
Interesting 24 hours ahead does marner get the sign and trade? Brad Marchand is the leafs #1 target via free agency.

Truthfully I think Vegas might just walk away from marner Hague was just traded for sissons and lauzon which are up most of the cap space they had. maybe tre overplayed his hand.

Brad Marchand a leaf? This is a move I'm not sold on it's likely gonna be a super expensive deal my guess 8.5x 3-4 years. Yes he's still a good player but it leaves them with around 5 mil to fill out the roster which is more than enough but pretty wild that Brad would get more than knies and jt lol

Also side note I'm interested in what happens to Robertson and holmberg

30 Jun 2025 12:43:29
I don't know if Tre overplayed his hand or not. Could be that Marner wouldn't agree to the deal. Getting Roy would have been good. I still think he goes to Anaheim.

30 Jun 2025 14:04:29
I will add that if it is a sign and trade, Colangelo comes back to the Leafs, Marner becomes their captain within a year.

30 Jun 2025 21:03:28
Who needs Brad Marchand, we have Maccelli. 🙄.

30 Jun 2025 21:46:41
Ckarky. He resigned in Florida, can't blame Tre for that.

01 Jul 2025 00:12:22
I didn’t blame Tre for not signing Marchand, I blame him for answering with Maccelli. Like are we not making a team for playoffs here? What is Maccelli gonna do in playoffs against Florida? I know you guys love Tre off. And I thought he did a good job up until this point. But these wingers that we need added are the deal breakers for this team and Maccelli isn’t the answer, at least IMO. And I don’t care what he does in the regular season. I want to know if he will make an impact come playoffs. We have limited cap space and this deal doesn’t do it for me.

01 Jul 2025 02:42:12
It was a no risk move to get Maccelli. He only has one year left on his deal. He is a playmaker type of player. We get Roy. Hopefully sign Jeannot and at least move Kampf. If Mangiapanne is cheap enough on a short term deal, I'd probably do that as well.

And yes, I do like Tre. I think he has done a great job all things considered.

02 Jul 2025 12:04:32
No risk? We just spent 3.5M on another project we hope works out. This guy Sat out regular season games for Utah because he is very streaky and you think he will make an impact in playoffs for us? It’s a big risk considering we have a couple years to win before Matthews leaves and this is part of the replacement for Marner. Tre messed this one up but I know you guys will never admit that.

29 Jun 2025 23:12:53
Knies done, 7 x 7.85.Great deal.

30 Jun 2025 07:32:20
Sorry 6*7.75.

29 Jun 2025 21:53:21
Good work by Tre on the Knies contract. Got it to 6 years and under $8M.

27 Jun 2025 17:18:51
Tavares signed to 4.38m x 4. Great deal for the leafs. Especially for 74pts in 75 gp. So what's pur holes?

Knies? Mathews nylander
Mcmann ? ?
? Tavares jarnkrok
Kamp Laughton domi

Reilly Carlo
Mccabe tanev
OEL Benoit
Myers

Woll
Stolarz

$21,320,581 in cap space as of now. who do we get?

27 Jun 2025 18:14:42
Assuming Knies gets 7.5M for example. That puts us just under 14M if we can find a way to get rid of Jarnkrok and Kampfs contracts via trade. That would give us roughly 16,250M to spend on 5 forward slots.

Marchand 7.5M X 3
Jeannot 3M X 3
Lorentz 1.25 X 2
Kuraly 3M X 3
Patches 1.5M

This is tough via free agency and some of these salaries are probably low to make cap fit. If Tre has intentions of getting some good depth and staying under the cap, it may have to be via trade.

27 Jun 2025 18:16:30
Habs just picked up Dobson too. Our division is getting tougher.

27 Jun 2025 19:30:54
I said if JT comes back it has to be for about $3.5-$4M which I had at over 4-5 years as we need him to take a big discount if he is staying. Great job by JT and Tre to get a very Leaf friendly deal. JT is a class act as we know. He just sent a message to the Marner's etc who want the big money and don't like the fan scrutiny in Toronto that there are guys that will play here for less because they want to be here.
I do think there is a good possibility Marchand comes here. I predict 4x$7.25M if he does. That would be JT and Marchand total for less than what Marner wants.

27 Jun 2025 21:08:24
I love this deal. This is exactly what was needed. Show the boys you want to be here.

25 Jun 2025 17:29:05
Any idea on what the leafs will do with their picks looking at mock drafts I would love the leafs to grab a centre someone like William horcoff

25 Jun 2025 19:09:10
Evander Kane just went to Vancouver for a 4th round pick? These are the type of guys we need. I hope Tre pulls something off in a week here.

25 Jun 2025 21:49:11
Yea I liked kane until the finals then he turned into the kane nobody wants.

26 Jun 2025 12:49:19
I don't think Horcoff will be around at the end of the 2nd round.
Obviously depends on who is on the board still at the time they pick, but I would think it will be a forward. Size will be a factor. A guy like Paupanekis my guess would intrigue the Leafs.

26 Jun 2025 17:51:57
I’ve also saw a lot of big stay at home dman in mock trades going to the leafs.

27 Jun 2025 19:31:41
Goat. Yes, there should be some big D available where the Leafs pick.

25 Jun 2025 12:24:21
It’s June 25th and still no deal with Knies. When do we start to worry? Guarantee someone is gonna offer sheet this kid for a nice amount and we will be forced to match it or let him walk.

25 Jun 2025 17:27:43
Well if it’s north of 9 mil I think the leafs would get a haul of picks anything below leafs would match I think that’s why no one is worried.

25 Jun 2025 18:33:45
Exactly what goat said.

He isn't worth 9m+ as much as I like the kid and anything less you keep him anyway. It's a strange situation where you don't care as much.

25 Jun 2025 19:08:00
If we lose Knies for draft picks we might as well start the rebuild now and trade Matthews and Nylander as well. He is the heart and soul of the forward group.

25 Jun 2025 21:50:17
@clarky or you can flip those picks for a player just as good or better.

25 Jun 2025 23:41:59
@Clarky don't overpay, that's the motto. Everyone is replaceable for the right price.

26 Jun 2025 00:40:30
Who are you gonna find just like Knies that teams are giving away? No one is trading Josh Anderson or Tom Wilson or Brady Tkachuk. You don’t just “find” players like this. They are few and far between. Not to mention he is 22. Scoring over 30 goals playing PK on all the top units. Sticks up for his teammates and elevates his game in playoffs. Good luck, trust me if he goes, start rebuilding.

27 Jun 2025 09:23:35
@clarky your right knies is a bit of a rare commodity and you may not find knies 2.0 but with 2-4 1st the leafs could add in multiple spots the same argument can be had for marner how can you replace a playmaker like him…. You just do like LL said at some point someone in the leafs front office needs to set a precedent on who is call the shots.

27 Jun 2025 12:29:57
That’s fine GOAT but then start the rebuild. We know Austin and Willy don’t have what it takes to carry a team in playoffs. Or if you’re thinking of trading all these picks for “ready now” players who gonna go for? We can fill Mitch’s role with a couple guys but like I said GM’s aren’t moving off Knies type players. Need a group of Knies type players to win a Cup. RN we have Knies, Tanev, McCabe (out of our top 6F and top 4 D) that play with their hearts on their sleeves.

24 Jun 2025 16:09:40
Isn't it funny how we went from talking about adding guys like Bennett and Marchand to now talking about guys like mangiapane lol

24 Jun 2025 20:45:51
As said earlier, we don't expect alot. I don't mind mangiapanne at the right price. Plays with some heart, local guy and Typically 40-50 pts. Add Jeannot as well hopefully. Probably resign JT. Still room for Marchand. Move on from Kampf
Could have a top 9 of
Knies Matthews Mangi
McMann JT Nylander
Domi Laughton Marchand.

24 Jun 2025 22:21:54
I'm really not sure about Marchand. How much is he going to be offered? I wouldn't want to give term or move than around 5m/ year at his age.

24 Jun 2025 23:08:26
Marchand to leafs
4 yrs 32 million.

24 Jun 2025 23:19:54
LL. Of course. Term and money need to make sense.

25 Jun 2025 03:12:02
4 years 32 million being one of those things I don't want to see lol.