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06 Nov 2025 15:44:44
That was as close as we have seen to a full 60 minute game this year. Everyone contributed. Solid game.
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06 Nov 2025 21:42:33
I missed all but the 3rd but that’s what it seemed they played their most complete game yet. Nice to see Matthews and Nylander finally starting to come around.
04 Nov 2025 01:02:04
Just 3-0 now. This may be the worst hockey I have seen by a Leaf team since I don't know when.
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04 Nov 2025 19:43:11
Easily the worst first two periods of hockey i have ever watched in my life. I can't argue with that at all.
My kids would at least give an effort and get blown up by an NHL team, those guys didn't care at all.
03 Nov 2025 02:30:42
I do not get why sitting Maccelli is not in the cards when players are coming back? Robertson playing well and starting to get chemistry on that top line. Cowan playing better than Maccelli. Domi is making a nice role for himself as 4C. Does someone see something about this kid that I don’t?
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03 Nov 2025 13:42:43
I understand wanting to sit him. He does make some nice plays though. It is not all bad or just giving the puck away. He also has 2 goals and 2 assists in his last 6 games even though his ice time is being cut. Everyone knows I like McMann and all he brings, but HE needs to produce. He's getting the ice time. 0 points in his last 8 doesn't cut it.
03 Nov 2025 16:22:32
Personally, I still want to see a bit more of Maccelli, and especially L3 with Joshua & Roy. It's still early to make drastic changes, plus it's a good problem to have with extra NHL bodies.
I agree with RLF on McMann, I think he needs some press box time to sit back and recalibrate.
I agree with you on Robertson. He's making the most out of his opportunity and needs some run way.
Hopefully, the lines look something like this when Laughton is back.
Robertson Matthews Nylander
Knies Tavares Cowan
Joshua Roy Maccelli
McMann/ Blais Laughton Domi
Lorentz/ Jarnkrok
Looks like a pretty solid forward group to me.
Leafs still need to trade off another forward or 2.
And it sounds like Leafs and Kampf are heading towards a salary termination, so we will have an extra $1.25M in cap space to accumulate towards TDL.
03 Nov 2025 23:55:16
Sorry RLF and Tags, I’ve seen enough and know what to expect from him. Berube must agree because he is sitting tonight. I bet the lines look much more balanced without Maccelli there. Can’t have a guy out there that is scared if the corners and turns the puck over like a hot potato.
04 Nov 2025 01:02:49
Ckarky. After 2 periods, hard to say Maccelli was the problem.
04 Nov 2025 12:02:20
Should have waited until the game was over to send that. lol. But let’s call a spade a spade. Right now it doesn’t matter because Nylander and Matthews are apparently only in shape to play 20 minutes a game. They corrected their neutral zone for the 3rd because Pitts was making them look terrible. With Laughton coming back, who do you take out for him and who gets replaced by Maccelli? Can’t be Robertson now, he is carving himself out a top 6 role like I stated, Cowan needs reps as he is looking more and more comfortable. My choice to come out right now is Domi for Laughton, I’d leave the rest alone.
04 Nov 2025 12:44:54
Clarky. lol. Not to early to send. I said after 2 periods, which was a fair statement. The 4th line and Cowan hardly saw a shift in the 3rd. They just decided to actually play some hockey. I don't love Maccelli by any means. Never said I did. I ahve said I am willing to give him a chance and that he is not as horrible as you make him out to be. Since you said he was horrible even before training camp, I think saying give the guy a chance is reasonable.
Didn't you just say above that Domi is carving himself out a nice role as a 4C and now take him out. As for Robertson, props to him, he is making the best of his opportunity. I am not going to declare him a top 6 forward yet though. 5 games in the top six is a little premature imo.
I would take out Domi though and I am fine with Maccelli sitting if the team is playing well and others are outplaying him. Everyone stunk for that first two periods. It was disgusting to watch. It was worse than watching game 5 and 7 from last season over again. Absolutely no jump and looked like they didn't care.
02 Nov 2025 15:12:34
We are in a bit of trouble here guys! Think bout it now I'm not totally in the know of what and where we're protected to but the Leafs have zero Firsts til 2028' Draft no Seconds and nothing really in the cupboards. What do we do?? Suggestions? Cause...
We should build around Knies Danford maybe Willy. Other than that it's a crap shoot. We have some other talents from this year draft capital actually but it's really still to early to tell for sure. Thoughts?
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02 Nov 2025 18:46:15
I'm probably in the minority here, but I still like the make up of this team. Roy, Joshua seem to be getting better. Carlo is playing better. Cowan looks more comfortable. They are starting to play more physical. It would be nice to see a healthy roster to see what they really have.
02 Nov 2025 18:58:55
@RLF I haven't been as panicked as everyone else either, except for Mathews' situation.
This team can't do anything if he doesn't get it together.
02 Nov 2025 23:43:02
Agree on Cowan looking better.
Get some of the TBJ players in the D-Room to speak about what a TEAM can accomplish.
03 Nov 2025 01:54:54
I feel like Benoit and OEL have become such a liability and Reilly has just reverted back to what he was last year the blueline needs help more than anything but I’m interested in what the forward group looks like when healthy there’s a lot of bodies especially in the bottom 6 cupboards aren’t loaded with high end prospects but what I will say is what made teams like Tampa Pittsburg Chicago even Florida so good for so long was that they found guys later in the draft and I think the leafs have a few that could end up being something or nothing but none the less this team need to show consistency.
03 Nov 2025 02:35:39
I agree with RLF a bit here. Things are turning a corner. Roy, Joshua, Blais all playing well. Maccelli needs to get out of this lineup and off this team ASAP. He hurts whatever line he is on. If that Maccelli spot was filled with a Rust or Tuch I’d feel much better about this team.
01 Nov 2025 13:18:00
My new lineup for when Laughton is back incase Chief is curious:
Knies Matthews JT
McMann Roy Nylander
Joshua Laughton Cowan
Lorentz Domi Blais
Robertson/ Jarnkrok
*will not put Maccelli in MY lineup, doesn’t belong on this team even as an extra. Robertson, Jarnkrok, Pezzetta waiting for someone to falter or move two of them.
My reason for putting JT up there is because they have never really played together 5on 5. JT plays like himself no matter who he is with. Shoot first mentality and win your corner battles. Everyone else just looks to find Matthews. JT and Knies can own a line which will give Matthews much more freedom and doesn’t always have to be high guy in the offensive zone split it with JT. Domi has not looked good except for the one game he got 2 goals in, he can stay in the 4th line until he figures it out. I think Roy has some serious offensive upside to his game that we haven’t got to fully witness yet, playing with Bobby and Willy should help us understand his potential with this team. If it works, awesome. If not, he will always be a legit 3rd line C.
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02 Nov 2025 13:58:21
Not sure I'd want Roy that high up. He's a physical, defensive, 3C that gets 50 points max. Good player, not a 2C imo.
03 Nov 2025 02:28:10
LL you just described every reason why I like him playing with Willy. Offensive upside while being very reliable defensively. Has nice hands and holds onto pucks in the corners. Meanwhile Maccelli is over there playing hot potato with the puck.
03 Nov 2025 12:52:48
Roy’s ceiling is 3C in my view. He has never come close to scoring 50 points in an NHL season.
Joshua is also a 3L player who needs be a little quicker and more robust on the forecheck.
I’d continue to give Blais a chance.
Macelli’s highlight reel is misleading; he’s struggling and as a small forward is redundant with Cowan and Robertson on the roster. I’d also try to find a trade partner for him and free up some cap space.
03 Nov 2025 18:10:10
Good point on having Maccelli, Cowan and Robertson. One has to go eventually (or Cowan is sent down if he fades) .
01 Nov 2025 11:31:57
Leafs need to keep blais in the lineup..i feel hes going to be a secret weapon for the bottom 6 and if giving a longer leash he will produce, look at the one season where he played in 31 games for the blues and put up 20 pts...in an established role..we need greasy scorers...i thought that's what they signed joshua for...which he needs to give more.
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03 Nov 2025 12:54:00
Keep Blais in the lineup? Yes
Secret weapon? Probably not.
30 Oct 2025 21:39:48
My two cents:
-how are we softer now with Mitch gone? These games are so boring to watch.
-D are the only ones being physical
-turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. In the neutral zone and at the blue lines are game changers. So why do we keep trying this long bomb, cross ice pass, through 3 people?
Far winger should be coming across supporting the puck on a breakout not skating a straight line hoping someone makes an impossible pass. Coaches keep talking about supporting the puck and making smaller plays, so change the freaking breakout so you eliminate these long passes, even if the player gets it he is in his own with nowhere to go.
This can go on and on but that’s my piece.
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31 Oct 2025 00:12:41
D being physical, minus Carlo (wasn't he a bruin? ) And Mo (as expected) .
So 4 guys on the team.
Anyone watch Roy on Vegas? He was physical as all hell. What happened?
31 Oct 2025 09:12:58
Ty LL. It’s true Carlo drives me nuts out there looking like Aki Berg. No puck skills, no heart or physicality. So what does he bring? Minten and a 1st, this one may hurt for a while.
31 Oct 2025 20:24:44
Don't disagree with most of that.
30 Oct 2025 06:38:32
Elite?? NOPE not anymore!
Where's he go?
Tor
A Matthews traded to ? For ?
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30 Oct 2025 15:41:27
Mathes for a bag of pucks if he doesn't get his game back soon. Over a year of this now.
31 Oct 2025 20:29:31
I wonder if whatever ailed him has caused a change in how he is able to release the puck. And is it permanent or still healing is the big concern. He doesn't look or handle the puck with confidence like he used to.
That said, he needs to be more physically dominant. He's a big, strong man who plays small too many shifts. If he isn't able to do what he used to, then find an effective way to contribute differently.
01 Nov 2025 01:10:06
@RLF the one thing I wonder about is 4 nations. He actually looked a lot better in that tournament than he did before or after.
30 Oct 2025 01:28:19
Feel so bad for john tavares, took less to stay with leafs, and this is how they do him...im gonna say it now, gire berube chants are coming...
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30 Oct 2025 03:07:30
Whats with you and Berube? They have 3 guys with more points and goals that Mitchy yet you keep saying it's because he left.
Then you moce on to Berube and blame him.
Then the Tre bashing starts because he hasn't found another winger.
This is legitimately a Mathews issue combined with poor D and sub par goaltending. Stolarz and Primeau have not been great.
You can't pay a guy as much ad Mathews to be your top line centre, then have him fall apart and expect to win the Atlantic. If he doesn't get it together that's the main issue.
30 Oct 2025 06:33:01
I think it’s still early to write them off but I will say it’s been a mixed bag so far they are getting depth scoring but the two top guys willy and Matthews can’t score the d look awful but I saw that coming with most of the blueline being on the back 40 of their careers all and all got to give it till American thanksgiving and see where they sit reminder last year at this time they only had one more win.
30 Oct 2025 10:54:40
@Goat Willy has 15 points in 9 games. I have seen his issue as defensive far more than offensive.
30 Oct 2025 00:32:33
Leafs are such a fantastic team...i was right from day.1...this teams a joke cause austin mattews is a joke...through a friend of a friend....thats why marner left cause matthews didnt care about winning...and the fans blamed marner...u cant have a yankee captain a canadian team...leafs full of americans and not one of them are elite...knies is a 50 pt scorer, matthews will be about 55/60 this year...all are goalies are american...plus about 3 or 4 more...leafs are a joke, so is the nhl...i dont like hockey knowmore, they lost me as a fan...pce out...leafs wont make playoffs, players take days off with leafs, not cause of injury..theres only one way id stay on as a fan, cup or tank...trade matthews, cowan stolarz,primeau, joshua..
Matthews and a 1st for marner..
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28 Oct 2025 22:07:15
Time for treliving to add top 6 and top d...and whatever it takes, leafs lose to flames and its gonna get bad..
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29 Oct 2025 21:33:53
But they didn't lol.
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