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23 Jan 2021 02:17:34
Tor - Matthews
Clb - Dubois, Jones, Elvis

Columbus builds around Matthews and werenski. Toronto get center replacement, elite right handed d, Freddy replacement next year.

Or

Tor - Matthews, Sandin, Amirov, 2021 1st
Edm - McDavid

If Edmonton is still terrible this year McDavid might want out and Edmonton would want a franchise center back for him. There's only a handful of those in the league and Matthews is one of them. Leafs trade 2 or their 3 to prospects to even value.

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23 Jan 2021 04:22:55
You know, I'm not so sure 2 past first round picks+ a first is the difference between Mcdavid and Mathews. Mcdavid is still the better player but not by as much as some believe. Mcdavid does play well without the puck at all and Mathews is improving in this are every year.

I wouldn't make this trade.

23 Jan 2021 05:30:06
I beat you to the cbj trade lol.

23 Jan 2021 09:21:02
Great minds think alike lol.

23 Jan 2021 14:28:21
Columbus would need Andersen thrown into this deal

I’m on board with this

Dubois isn’t as talented or even close in talent to Matthews but is still probably top 5 in league when discussing top 2C in league as JT is #1C once Matthews is gone.

Kadri, draisaitl, Malkin, Hayes, point are top 2C in league off top of my head.

Jones gives Toronto a deadly top 4. I mean maybe best top 4. Moving holl into bottom pair with any of leafs remaining Dmen makes the bottom pair one of best in league so in theory leads would have the best d Corp in the league.

So losing a top 5 of layer in league to gain the best D and a top 5 2C in league to me makes this team overall better.

They will figure out their goalie situation at expansion but until then run a solid tandem where both goalies play equal

Columbus will hear tunnes of offers for Dubois. However, no offer comes close to this one. I mean outside mcdavid draisaitl Crosby ovechkin mackinnon and PKane I’d say Matthews is just as untouchable if not due to his age he might be #2 on this list. So if Columbus somehow has a chance to get him you bet they’d listen.
Yes Jones is a huge loss for this d core but it’s Matthews. Torts plays such a system that as losing Jones hurts he will somehow manage.
Andersen goes with Matthews as Columbus does still need a goalie tandem.
It also helps Andersen and Matthews are bffs and Matthews and werenski are huge bros so all parties remain happy.

As for Jones, he is very close with Boyd from his us program days as a 15 year old Boyd really stepped up and made Jones not feel so young to other players. Petan did the same with Jones with Portland. Both Jones and bjorkrand spoke highly of petan showing the young lads the ropes and made them feel less homesick then they could of been.

If somehow leafs could grab bjorkrand (Jones BFF) in this deal would be huge bonus. My suggestion is

Matthews Andersen Mikheyev engvall
For
Dubois bjorkrand Jones Elvis

That’s like close to the epic Dougie deal but with way more talent going both ways lol probably a huge stretch

So your deal with Columbus is perfect as long as Andersen is sent with Matthews. Much more realistic than my counter


Good job.

23 Jan 2021 14:53:53
Nylander kerfoot vesey rielly Sandin liljegren 2021 and 2022 1st

For

McDavid

Lol screw giving up Matthews. Let’s have 3 awesome centres instead. It would never happen but just in general would this offer be close?

They get 3 forwards for 1 million less than 1 forward. Now draisaitl runs with nylander instead of mcdavid. Yes it’s a downgrade but draisaitl is much like when one of Malkin or Crosby get hurt. Both step up their game big time. Draisaitl is same. When he knows he doesn’t have mcdavid for some reason he turns into a even bigger beast. Nylander with draisaitl will be more dangerous than he is with Tavares.

Kerfoot and vesey add real depth this oiler team lacks. Yes kerfoot vesey and nylander probably only get 125 points which is mcdavid production alone but it’s spread 3 ways thus more actual offence may come out of these 3

Rielly adds to a solid defence and put him on this team now you add 50-70 points from back end. Rielly with Larsson and nurse with Barrie is a solid 4. They still have bear and Jones now as bottom pair then when ekbolm comes back holy crap

Throw in 2 D prospects to add to Bouchard and phillipB (forget his last name right now ) plus those 1st rounders and I think Edmonton thinks

Just imagine
Mcdavid Matthews Simmonds
Hyman Tavares Marner
Mikhayev Engvall Anderson
Brooks spezza barabanov

Muzzin Brodie
Dermott holl
Lehtonen bogosion

Thornton Robertson LTIR
Boyd, petan, malgin marincin taxi squad

Wow after writing this out I can see just how bad the depth gets depleted. That D is pretty weak just by taking away rielly. The 3rd line is ok I mean I like it but it has no offence but I think could be a big quick defensive line so not bad. Look at that taxi squad. You lose having Sandin and Lehtonen as extra d options and now Lehtonen must play full time and Marincin is the emergency call up ouch.
Glad petan and malgin join this squad.

If any of the new big 4 get hurt their is no depth to replace them like having a kerfoot slide in for a few games. If the d gets hurt their is absolutely no one.

So is a mcdavid for multiple players and the future worth it

I say he’ll yeah get we done

Lol

Sorry had to do all that.

23 Jan 2021 16:59:38
Holy crap these deals with Edmonton are tough

I can’t add rielly or simply need to not include kerfoot and vesey

I forgot about Edmonton’s cap. Yes I saved them 1 million in forwards but then gained 5 on rielly.

Edmonton can only send down yakomoto as every one else needs to clear waivers. Then you’d need to send down 2 D men whom are waiver exempt. Between those 3 guys only 2.3 is saved this making this deal still 1.7 short. Oops guess you’d have to retain on rielky a bit lol

Sorry.

23 Jan 2021 01:36:25
Tor: Matthews Andersen
Cbj: Jones merlikins dubois 2021 1st

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23 Jan 2021 15:05:14
Might not need that 1st

I love this deal after thinking about it

Leafs gain
Best top 4 and maybe best d Corp in all league
Top 5-10 2C in league
Cap space for better overall depth


Columbus gains
Top 5 generational player in league
No more Dubois headaches

Matthews sitting out and being told to leave practice after calling out coach might be more then it appears lmfao

Torts calls out player and benches player then threatens to not use player ever again

Could be nothing but very interesting and coincidental

Matthews and torts just may be perfect marriage for nhl media and entertainment. It will draw more audience and sell so much merch and advertising. A deal of this value might bring in an audience of harden like appeal

League needs money and getting Matthews out of the already top 5 market in league to go to a struggling market is best for the buisness . Leafs won’t lose any fans and Columbus and nyl will gain fans.

I think something is honestly here folks.

23 Jan 2021 00:45:42
To Toronto
Barkov
Nutivaara

To Florida
Nylander
Engvall
Sandin
Liljegren
Kokkonen
Loponen
Holmberg

The rest of the Swedes for 2 Finns

Barkov makes Toronto so freakin good that having nutivaara on unfit to play is worth it

Just a fun trade
Will be a tough 4 games while waiting on barkov to show up but if leafs tread water watch this lineup

Hyman Matthews marner
Kerfoot tavares simmonds
Vesey barkov Mikheyev
spezza barabanov

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin holl
Dermott bogosion
Lehtonen

Andersen /Campbell

Boyd,Anderson,Brooks,Hutchison taxi

Thornton Robertson Long term injury's
Nutivaara unfit

81.55 cap hit so Thornton's salary used as LTIR


Imagine the lines once everyone is healthy.

Robertson barkov Mikheyev kinda excites me

You could even give Matthews and marner barkov sometimes. The line combos could really be fun to make up

I know this probably never happens but it's fun to think of lol

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23 Jan 2021 04:23:57
Oh man, if florida was willing to do this I would take it. They can even have a first along with that package. Barkov makes this team an instant favorite.

23 Jan 2021 22:09:49
I agree 100%

Just thought dubas seems to be grabbing finish and Russian players lately and getting rid of Swedish guys .

Why not do 1 giant sweep of the organization and berid leafs of every Swedish asset they have and grab one of the best finish centres of all time in the process

Made me laugh doing it even though it’s a tad if not enormously far fetched.

24 Jan 2021 13:21:23
Kokkonen and loponen are Finns as well

Oops.

23 Jan 2021 00:23:12
Tor gets
Dubois C
Jones D

Columbus gets
Marner RW
Liljigren D
Holl D
Robertson LW
Toronto's 1st & 2nd round picks 2021

Toronto's forward lines
Hymn/Mathews/Nylander
Kerfoot/Tavares/Vesey
Thornton/Dubois/Mikheyev
Simmonds/Spezza/Barabanov
Extras: Engvall, Boyd & Brooks

Toronto's defensive lines
Riley/Jones
Muzzin/Brodie
Dermot/Lethenon
Extras: Bogosain & Sandin

Toronto's Goalies
Andersen Sg
Campbell Bg

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23 Jan 2021 04:24:49
Holl has grown on me a lot. I actually think so far this season he had been the most consistent D man they have. I wouldn't want to trade this much for Jones and Dubois as much as I like them both.

23 Jan 2021 00:04:43
Tor: Kerfoot, liligren, Engvall, 1st round pick

Clb: Dubois

Cap almost works I think they need to retain 500k.

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22 Jan 2021 18:09:11
Tor: Nylander Korshkov 2nd
Cbj: Dubois

Adds size and skill and could be a backup plan if Matthews doesn't resign

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22 Jan 2021 18:31:02
Nylander for Dubois straight up probably works at this point.

22 Jan 2021 19:33:55
After seeing the clip from last night I'm not sure why we want him.

23 Jan 2021 01:05:55
Can’t take what’s happening in Columbus in to account he clearly has given up playing for torts and I don’t blame him for that.

23 Jan 2021 01:43:19
Not to mention I would love to steal him from the jets who are the front runners.

22 Jan 2021 17:21:13
CLB
Nylander 6.96
Andersen 5

Tor
Dubois 5
Korpisalo 2.8
Nash 2.75

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22 Jan 2021 18:30:23
I like this deal it works

However, come expansion time leafs will lose 1 of Campbell or korpisalo

Not doing Andersen in this deal he becomes ufa Campbell is protected and Hutchison is exposed.

Columbus would also need to resign Andersen just to be able to expose a goalie

Trading goalies might not work but the deal is still pretty good.

22 Jan 2021 21:00:49
Forgot about the draft. Remembered we had Hutch to expose, but forgot then you have to protect both. Good catch. Figured CLB would just sign anybody just to expose them like we did Hutch. Not sure I like my deal anymore when we may lose Korp or Campbell.

22 Jan 2021 16:57:25
With injuries and daily soreness starting to creep in many lineups it's time the leafs get depth at center.

Kerfoot just doesn't do it for me if JT or Matthews are out of action and spezza can't be more than a 4th liner.

Engvall doesn't get a shot and Boyd is simply an extra player no more than a 4th liner

Looks like Dubois and torts are at it again so time to jump on this before Vancouver or montreal do

To columbus
Kerfoot vesey engvall (4.575 leaving Toronto) plus rodian amirov since Columbus wanted him at draft any ways.

For
Dubois (5 but need to replace 1 extra guy so 5.7 coming to Toronto)
So to make this work Columbus needs to retain 1.125 million minimum so ask to retain 2 for some flexibility.

For Columbus doing this Toronto offers 2021 2nd round pick which is about value of 2 million retaining

So
Kerfoot vesey engvall amirov 2nd 2021
For
Dubois(40% retaining)

Is this enough or too much

Not dealing any of the big 4. It's basically a deal of depth and prospect and pick for 1 guy

Hyman Matthews marner
Nylander Tavares simmonds
Mikheyev Dubois Anderson
Brooks spezza Boyd

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin holl
Dermott Bogosian

Thornton hurt
Robertson hurt

Lehtonen Sandin taxi

When injuries subside
Robertson joins Dubois Mikheyev
Thornton spezza Anderson become 4th
Brooks and Boyd join taxi

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22 Jan 2021 17:31:49
Because Dubois has 2 years that means it’s 2X2 for the retaining so leafs either add 2022 2nd rounder to cover that extra 2 million retaining or offer liljegren.

Also due to all players needing to quarantine 7-10 days that retaining is a must as for those days leafs need to cover Dubois roster spot but he is counted on main roster

During this time

Hyman Matthews marner
Mikhayev Tavares Anderson
Brooks Nylander simmonds
Spezza Boyd


Rielly Brodie
Muzzin holl
Dermott Bogosian
Lehtonen / Sandin

3-4 games until Dubois shows up.

22 Jan 2021 17:36:41
With all the teams apparently in play, I think that offer gets beat. As I said at the start, Montreal will be all over this. I wouldn't be surprised to see them offer something like Suzuki+ (+) .

22 Jan 2021 18:33:02
Suzuki won’t be involved

That kotkenemi (no clue on spelling) plus an add probably is as far as montreal will go.

They won’t want to mess with chemistry. This team looks legit or Vancouver just looks bad lol.

22 Jan 2021 19:35:35
The effort I'm seeing from Dubois is childish. If this is all it takes then sure but I wouldn't give much more.

 


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