Leafs rumours 2

09 Jan 2025 15:11:38
As was mention, Leafs sign Toews for 3C (no assets required) and go for a legit top4 RHD.

To Toronto
Rasmus Andersson $4.55M
2025 3rd

To Calgary
Robertson $.875M
Kampf $2.4M (Zary may be out long term)
Timmins $1.1M.

09 Jan 2025 15:52:53
Can toews even play at NHL level? It's been a couple years.

09 Jan 2025 18:17:36
I don't think that's even close for Andersson. I'd probably throw in a first and a better prospect.

I'm wondering about Towes as well. Maybe he's still a solid 3C option, but I have no idea.

10 Jan 2025 01:41:43
Robertson, Kampf and Timmins for Rasmus Andersson?

A 3rd line player, a 4th line player and a bottom pairing defenseman for a top 4 maybe even top pairing RHD one of the most coveted positions in the NHL plus you want Calgary to throw into a 3rd round pick?
I don’t think that is a very likely scenario.
Think in terms of a top prospect (Cowan, Minten or Danford) plus Leafs 2026 - 1st round pick.

09 Jan 2025 14:00:21
Tor: Rielly

Fla: ekblad

Lateral move mostly, but switches things up a touch. I know it's highly unlikely but, would make an interesting adjustment.

09 Jan 2025 01:59:24
Here's a thought.

Leafs trade:

Holmberg
Robertson
Kamph

Philadelphia trade:

Laughton

If needed Leafs add Reaves, and or Timmins

Any thoughts

09 Jan 2025 10:33:25
I don’t think it’s far off but I don’t see Philly taking Holmberg and Kampf. I’d say Robertson, Kampf, 3rd rd pick 2025. Or maybe we give them a 2nd with a 3rd coming back. IMO.

11 Jan 2025 18:26:31
Philly look for a 1st for Laughton. That is what is being said of they won’t move him.

09 Jan 2025 01:43:19
Toronto trades Robertson, Holmberg and Bartello, 4th and a 5th in 2025

To

Ducks for Ryan Strome (50 percent) retained for this year and next and Brett Leason

Toronto puts Reaves on waivers

Toronto trades Steeves and Kampf
To
Chicago for Ryan Donato

09 Jan 2025 10:34:31
You must work for the cash man, Turning our junk into gold. 😂.

10 Jan 2025 01:43:36
I thought I was familiar with most Leaf players and prospects but I am not familiar with Bartello?

08 Jan 2025 20:13:36
Here’s a thought. If the Leafs do sign Toews as third line centre. Here are two trades that would put them over the top


Leafs. Voronkov
CBJ. Homlberg, Robertson and 2nd

He would be a perfect for 2nd line LW and leafs free up some cap space

Leafs Bortuzzo
Utah. Timmons.

I think Bortuzzo would prefect for 3rd pairing RD and some cap space on this move

Lines

Knies AM MM
Voronkov JT Willy
McMahon Toews Domi
Pach Kampj Lorentz

Reilly Myers
McCabe Tanev
OEL Bortuzzo

Woll
Stolarz

Just thought what are your thoughts boys.

09 Jan 2025 10:36:17
CBJ ain’t moving one of thier young studs for a bunch of meh. Bortuzo is not better than Timmins. Guy had one bad turnover and everyone wants to trade him.

08 Jan 2025 02:17:07
Leafs trade Domi

Ducks 4 th

Parkgardens

How much are you paying

Marner $13 x 8 years
Tavares $6 x 6 years
Knies $7 x 8 years

Marner is getting paid and he deserves it

Domi just doesn't do enough and we need that money

08 Jan 2025 15:40:45
Tavaras doesn't have 6 years in him but it's a reward and even he ends up injury last few seasons it's ok

Leafs are just entering the Stanley cup years

They need a third line at the deadline

McMann seems to be the best of the three.

Domi just doesn't bring enough offence and Robertson continues to be a mystery.

08 Jan 2025 18:25:26
Marner can't make that much. Say what you want, but you can't have Mitch and Willy on the same team making that much as wingers. One needs to at least be 2C, which neither one can do.

08 Jan 2025 23:37:54
6 years for an already 34 year old Tavares seems excessive, risky and unnecessary.
4 years maximum at $5 - $6 million per year should be sufficient.
If it isn’t then he doesn’t really want to be a Leaf as much as he might profess otherwise.

09 Jan 2025 01:31:14
Ok, let's get this right.
I never said that Marner should get that kind of money.
I want them to trade him or let him walk.

I put that out there because that is the amount the little bank robber wants.
Yes he is a good player, but as LL said you can not have two wingers making 11 &13+ million a year and expect to win.

I only repeated what others have projected that Marner is asking for.

The only way he stays and makes as much or more than Matthews is if Shanahan stays on as President.

I agree that Domi is not always productive but me has grit and heart, that wins.

The best thing for Toronto would be to to trade Mariner's rights before the Draft and use his cap space to get 2 or 3 good players to help balance out the holes.

11 Jan 2025 18:31:24
Tavares is $5x4 at best
Marner wants to stay 12.5x8. He’s not worth more than mckinnon.
Knies gets bridge deal not 7x8 cause of one good stretch of play so far. 5-6x4
If they don’t want they can walk except for Knies.

07 Jan 2025 13:50:49
Buf
Robertson $.875
Holmberg $.8M
Reaves $1.35M

Tor
Greenway $1.5M(50% retained)

Buffalo picks up a couple of young players and a veteran tough guy for Greenway who is on an expiring contract. Reaves should see icetime in Buffalo to help protect their young players.

Toronto picks up a large, physical 3rd line LW in Greenway who also PK's and defensively responsible while putting up 20-30 pts a season. He will drop the mitts when necessary and on an expiring contract.
Gives the Leafs a 3rd line of
Greenway Domi McMann
or move McMann up and go with
Greenway Domi Patches
Leafs also clear some cap space.

08 Jan 2025 15:45:20
I can't see Buffalo giving up their third line winger who also kills penalties and drops the mitts and puts up 30 points for basically AHL’er Robertson and two 4th liners and/ or scratches …. On top of that they are going to retain 50%?

If Buffalo would do it, sure.

08 Jan 2025 16:46:08
Grumpy, Holmberg is listed as having an illness and why he is scratched the last 5 games. Greenway is on an expiring contract and will be a UFA at end of season. Getting two younger, cost controlled forwards and a vet they could buyout end of season for only $450K against the cap for 2 seasons isn't a bad deal. Buffalo have dropped Greenway's icetime this year by a minute and a 1/ 2 and he is on pace for a worst point season total this year. They have also taken him off the PP this year. Doesn't seem like he is in their plans moving forward.

They can try and re-sign him in the summer if they want Greenway back.

Maybe you should ReFilL your flask and try again.

08 Jan 2025 20:23:45
Sorry RLF, Inhave to agree. I don’t see Buffalo giving up a valuable member to their team for a couple hopefuls.

08 Jan 2025 21:28:03
I guess you missed the part Clarky where all Grumpy did for his response was copy paste my response to one of his trades in order to try some kind of gotcha moment. He doesn't even believe what he wrote.

I will also venture to guess you guys don't realize Greenway is inured and out long term. Has been since mid December. He isn't expected back before the end of February.

So, how exactly is helping the team or an important part of their team if he is on IR and will be there for a while and then a UFA end of season?

08 Jan 2025 23:43:45
Greenway would be a sufficient upgrade for the return but I would prefer McMann on his natural left wing (McMann is far better than Greenway) and the Leafs use their assets to acquire a true 3rd line right winger.

07 Jan 2025 04:01:51
Tor: jarnkrok ltir Robertson 3rd
Nyi: pageau

Tor: 2nd Timmons niemela
Sjs: walman


So the leafs would have to get rid of another 1.69 to make it work but I like pageau 60% at the dot two way guy has another year left Robertson helps the islanders get younger and hopefully provide more goals second trade I made was for walman seems like a lot to pay but guy has 25 points 6 pp goals which is why I would want him more offence for the blueline

07 Jan 2025 13:07:36
Goat2.0 your trade is probably a bit more realistic (I was looking at Pageau more of a negative from the Islanders perspective, they will need cap space for next year) .
I just think we will need the cap space with Pageau (50% retention) because next year will be tight if we re-sign Marner, Tavares & depending on bridge or not for Knies. Maybe give another pick or prospect to Buffalo to take 50% retention.

07 Jan 2025 19:02:40
Leafs need Jarnkrok's LTIR, especially if they are adding cap hits in trades.
I'm not a big Timmins fan, I think he is a 6/ 7 D-man, but is Walman worth him, Niemela and a 2nd? He's playing big minutes in SJ and having a career year, but I would hope Timmins and a 2nd would get it done.

07 Jan 2025 21:53:13
Rfl if they are sending money out idk if they need jarnkrok cap hit but like I said there would still need to move more money to make these moves as for walman I guess you’re right but he’s been so good for them idk if they just give him up for so little plus I don’t think niemela has a shot at playing for berube.

07 Jan 2025 22:26:14
Goat. Please don't get me mixed up with the guy using RFL now. lol

You may be right on all counts. LTIR is confusing. Take Jarnkrok's $2.1M out of LTIR pool and I am not sure they have enough LTIR to fit everyone they have now on the team, nevermind adding any new cap. That's how I understand it anyway.

07 Jan 2025 01:10:13
Ducks
Cowan
Holmberg
2nd 2027

Leafs
Mctavish

07 Jan 2025 18:10:18
I do this in a heartbeat.

06 Jan 2025 21:48:10
Different target
3 team trade

To Islanders
Robertson $.875M RFA
Hirvonen ELC

Toronto
Pageau $2.5M/ 2yrs (50% retained)

To Buffalo
2025 3rd

Thoughts?

06 Jan 2025 22:15:02
Buffalo gets a pick just because?

06 Jan 2025 22:56:17
Sorry Buffalo is retaining 50% of Pageau's salary.

07 Jan 2025 00:45:16
Ckps 1976
For retaining salary!

Trading Robertson puts a real kink in the 3rd line.
Robertson has begun to find his way in the NHL and I would be loath to trade him for Pageau.
Rather offer Kampf and Jarnkrok for salary matching and a 3rd round pick along with Hirvonen.

07 Jan 2025 01:51:23
WB
Robertson has some hustle, but he gets knocked off the puck way too easily. He won't do well in playoff hockey.
The 3rd line would be
McMann Pageau Domi/ Jarnkrok

Islanders wouldn't be interested kampf & Jarnkrok. They need to start retooling and picking up younger guys.
Leafs are in win now mode (probably a good 3/ 4 year window) and should pick up guys who will help them now. I think Pageau would be a great pickup for 3C.

07 Jan 2025 13:41:22
Not sure Buffalo will retain on a contract with another year remaining. I would think they want to try and improve the team now if retaining.

07 Jan 2025 16:59:50
Fair RLF.
Maybe send Holmberg & a 6th for the retention. Buffalo gives up lots of goals, so maybe a young, defensive conscious forward would do the trick.

06 Jan 2025 06:35:10
Leafs
Tuch
Byram
Sabres retain 50 percent on both

Sabres
Cowan
1st 2027
3rd 2025
Steeves

Cap inclusions
Kampf
Timmins

Knies Matthews Marner
Pacioretty Tavares Tuch
McMann Domi Nylander
Robertson Dewar Lorentz

Byram Tanev
McCabe OEL
Rielly Myers
Benoit

Woll Stolarz

06 Jan 2025 20:27:49
ReFill I like your trades. Seems pretty fair both ways. I can see Buffalo fans not agreeing but has to be pretty close. Do you see Tre pulling off a move close to this or we settling for a cheap 3C?

07 Jan 2025 14:09:01
I can't see Buffalo giving up their top line winger who also plays both special teams and one of their top 4 D-men for basically Cowan, a likely late first 3 drafts away, two bottom 6 forwards and a 6/ 7 d-man. On top of that they are going to retain 50% on Tuch this year and next and Byram this year.

If Buffalo would do it, sure.