Leafs Trade Rumors

26 Sep 2021 19:41:12
A lot of talk about PK. Not my choice. If I were after a Devils D, it would still be Severson. The Devils need a high end LD. The right side they have their share of prospects and of course just signed Hamilton and have PK.

NJ
Rielly $5M
Mikheyev $1.65
Conditional 2023 1st(If Rielly doesn't re-sign)

Tor
Severson $4.16
Foote $.863

Devils improve their D and could boast a top pair of Hamilton and Rielly or split them up to create a great top 4. Mikheyev adds speed and PK ability. He may find some offensive touch on a new team. NJ have lots of forward prospects to afford to lose Foote. They have many RD prospects and still have Hamilton and PK this year.

Leafs pick up a top 4 RD that is solid defensively and can man the point on the PP. Cost controlled for 2 seasons. Also get a young, big LW prospect in Foote to help with their need on LW. Open up about $1.7M in cap space and reduce some of the forward log jam.

Leafs make a second deal.

Det
Kerfoot $3.5M

Tor
Smith $.750
McIsaac ELC

Detroit picks up a C/W that is cost controlled for two seasons and in the age group of their other top 9 players. Kerfoot will bring speed and the ability to PK. They have a wealth of prospects and McIsaac has been injury prone.

Leafs get some bottom 6 toughness in Smith who has the ability to also pitch in some offensively. McIssac has had shoulder issues and not played a lot. He could be a good target from Detroit as they have a lot of LD prospects. Leafs clear another $2.75M in cap space giving them a total of about $4.5M in new cap space along with a couple of solid prospects in Foote and McIsaac.

Ritchie Matthews Marner
Bunting? Tavares Nylander
Engvall Kampf Kase
Smith Spezza Simmonds
Brooks
(of course that is just an example of what it could look like)

Brodie Severson
Muzzin Holl
Dermott/Sandin/Liljegren

Mrazek
Campbell

$4.5M in cap space

27 Sep 2021 02:02:39
Most will probably like it. I'm not a big fan of Severson but I think it's fair overall.

Good prop.

27 Sep 2021 02:15:34
I like the NJ trade suggestion.
If NJ balked at giving up Foote I would do the Rielly - Severson trade straight up.
Rielly is gone at the end of the year anyways.
Severson would be a great partner for Sandin or Dermot.

25 Sep 2021 02:26:31
Never going to happen but would marner for Eichel+ make sense could have surgery and be placed on ir for season and be ready for playoffs freeing up 11 mill in cap similar to what Tampa did last year.

25 Sep 2021 18:44:25
I don't think you would get Eichel+ for Marner. Maybe straight up but even then, they want to dump everything and start over.

26 Sep 2021 17:33:40
I keep hearing the Eichal talk and wonder why, with a team that in my view has very little heart would anyone want yet another player like that. What this team needs is players who sacrifice for the win. Tavares and Muzzin getting knocked out is what doomed the team in the last playoffs. Eichel is another Mathews, great when things are going well but folds when times are tough. Call it selfishness or lack of grit but they won't sacrifice for the W.

26 Sep 2021 19:15:28
@Babyjohnny when has Mathews folded when the going gets tough?

The only one that has consistently folded in the playoffs is Marner.

27 Sep 2021 00:02:24
There is a really intelligent trade. Trade your best player for someone who may never trade again. Mariner is their best player. He plays the most minutes on the team. He lead them in points, was second in plus/ minus only to a dman.

27 Sep 2021 10:17:40
@Bluenose you think Marner is the best player? Lol. What have you kissed?

I Will admit, I was not a Mathews fan for awhile but he has become an absolute beast. He is a perennial rocket candidate and better defensively than any other top 5 forward in the league.

Marner can lead in an outdated stat all he wants too but +- doesn't mean a while lot.

In terms of importance to the team I put Marner at 5A with Nylander as 5B.

Mathews
Tavares
Brodie
Muzzin
Marner.

24 Sep 2021 23:14:05
Alright marner to each Canadian team, trying to make these fair but also trying to make cap work.
Start east and work west

Tor: marner
Mtl: Gallagher Drouin primeau

Tor: marner, Reilly, 2022 1st 2023 1st
Ott: stutzle, chabot, c brown

Tor: marner 1.5 retained, lily
Peg: lowry, PLD, Stanley

Tor: marner, kerfoot
Cgy tkachuk mangiapane, dube

Tor: marner
Edm: Hyman, Bouchard Yamamoto McLeod

Tor: marner, Reilly 50 % retained
Van: meyers, hoglander, Miller, garland

In the Vancouver deal the leafs then have to move kerfoot and a touch more to be cap compliant


Some caps may be off but I tried to put it within a million or 2

25 Sep 2021 01:23:32
I think the only deal I like is the Calgary edition of trading Marner.
Can imagine Marner on a line with Ehlers and Scheifele but I don’t care for the return.
I like Bouchard and Yamamoto in the Oilers deal but I don’t want Hyman back with that ridiculous, 7 year contract that Ken Holland gave him.
Gallagher, Drouin and Primeau don’t cut it.
Gallagher has a big, long term contract, us already 30 years old and is hurt a lot. Drouin is a failed high draft pick that couldn’t succeed in a talented Tampa team and has been no better with the Habs.
Hog lander and Garland are nice pieces from the Canucks but Miller is past his prime, injured a lot and Meyers shine wore off quickly after winning the Calder. He is now no
better than a replacement player.
Can’t see Ottawa making this trade as they are just about at the end of their rebuild and have a nice looking group of young players and control all of their draft picks.
Giving up Stutzle, Chabot and two 1st round picks is a huge price to pay for Marner and a rental.

25 Sep 2021 07:47:39
In the Ottawa deal the leafs give up the draft picks.

27 Sep 2021 00:04:40
It is a good thing you aren't the GM.

23 Sep 2021 13:37:50
The more I thought about it, Rielly in Ottawa made sense from a hockey standpoint (although he may have no desire to re-sign there). If Ottawa could have a top pair vet in his prime to go along with Chabot and with future's like Sanderson, Bernard-Docker etc why wouldn't they. A top pair vet is what they need on D.

Ott
Rielly $5M

Tor
Watson $1.5M
Thomson ELC
2022 2nd

Rielly makes Ottawa better immediately. They have the cap space to re-sign him, or if talks aren't going their way and they are out of the playoff picture, they could trade him at the TDL for a big haul I would think. What they give up for him, they have replacements in house.

Leafs get a big bodied strong defensive player in Watson who can play both wings, is physical and can PK. Would add to the Leafs 3rd line. He has some offensive abilities although limited, but could become a good net front n the PP as well. Thomson is a very good offensive RD prospect and Leafs also pick up another 2nd for this draft and $3.5M in cap space. It would foce the usage of guy like Sandin and Liljegren to see what they have. If they aren't satisfied, they have the cap space to go shopping for D.

23 Sep 2021 20:47:33
Solid trade value but last thing leafs need is trading a D for a F. If anything they need to go the other way.

24 Sep 2021 03:51:29
With Chabot, Brannstrom and Sanderson all being LD I’m not sure that Rielly is that good a fit for Ottawa.

24 Sep 2021 11:37:27
@JdB. $3.5M in cap space can be used to add a D.

@WB49. I felt the same way at first, but then i thought about why did we add Brodie? Because when you can add that kind of talent, you do it. They can always flip Rielly at the TDL as well.

24 Sep 2021 14:33:11
That wasn’t my point. My point is leafs have 12 guarenteed maybe even 13 forwards if u put Engvall in with this group.

Throw in Robertson gusev and hosang ontop of that and now add another st the expense of a dman. Using cap to get another dman doesn’t help the forward position

That’s all.

24 Sep 2021 15:01:53
Yea there’s too many factors in this trade there’s no way the leafs would move Reilly to a divisional rival unless it was and over pay from Ottawa.

24 Sep 2021 17:11:18
@JdB. I understand the log jam. Watson could make someone else disposable though. He is more of what we need. Say Mikheyev or Kerfoot for instance. Watson is a 3rd/ 4th liner and at $1.5 for two years. If they felt it makes Mikheyev or Kerfoot expendable as Leafs see them as 3rd liners, you trade either in a package which the Leafs have $5-7M they can bring back if Mikheyev/ Kerfoot is going. This doesn't have to be the only move.
@L1994. It is not likely, but it has been done. Toronto's window is the next 3 seasons, then who knows. Sens are probably 2-3 seasons away from even thinking of contending. Leaf's also need more higher
end prospects and higher picks to keep contending past the next 3 seasons. This deal gives them that.

I am not saying it is the best deal out there, but I do think there is a possibility when all is considered.

24 Sep 2021 17:31:47
Good point.