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29 Nov 2023 03:31:56
Gotta give it to Woll, kid looked great.

Mathews looks so disinterested out there right now, I'd consider putting him on the 4th line.

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29 Nov 2023 01:31:40
Anyone else starting to feel like this season is going to end up as a wash and they just trade out their UFAs to bring in assets.

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28 Nov 2023 20:16:06
Calling it now, Perry made a Kyle Beach joke.

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28 Nov 2023 13:12:06
Thankfully the Kane talk is over. He was never coming to Toronto and that’s a good thing. So much for him allegedly wanting to go to a contender. lol.

Leafs need to fire Keefe immediately. Hire Gallant. Then trade for two D and a goalie. Break the bank if you can get players with a year or two left on contracts. Overwhelm the flyers with an offer that gets you Hart and Walker, plus.

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28 Nov 2023 20:15:13
I really don’t think a cow chi infront change does much for this team whoever comes in the door answers to shanny and he tells them what to do idk how it’s not obvious by now.

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27 Nov 2023 19:20:54
I honestly don't see Treliving looking at this year as the year unless he can improve the D greatly to take a shot at it.

He knew this from the start though. He knew what Dubas had left him an almost impossible situation. Basically no prospects. No picks. A porous defence, no grit and questionable goaltending.

All those one year deals would suggest he is evaluating more than anything. The one year gamble on Klingberg when he couldn't get who he wanted is another example. Ironically, if Klingberg is done, Tree has that cap space to use and it turned out to be a very good move. If this has been persisting for a quite some time with Klingberg as suggested, did Tree know this may happen and make the signing easier.

Just my prediction, but if ha can't drastically improve the defence this year, he won't make much of a move. Maybe some small depth stuff that doesn't cost too much in assets.

I think he will be more looking at next year when the cap goes up and he has a better grasp on what he has. Don't get me wrong, he wants to win, but I don't think he will go all in and trade all his best assets for a chance at it this year unless the moves are drastic defence improvements.

In all honesty, I think it would be the right move to hold off if he can't improve the D a lot. The forward group is there, the defence isn't.

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27 Nov 2023 22:15:16
@RLF 100% agree.
His trades and signings will be made in the off season. He just wants to sit back and learn his team.

From the presser:

The Leafs are involved in so many trade rumours. Is part of the job of the manager canvassing the league to see what players might be available to help the team?

Treliving: That is your job all the time. You are trying to help the team. Now, the idea that you are going to trade yourself out of issues is not realistic.

To me, this basically means you're not trading yourself out of trouble, so don't hold your breath.

Maybe a small move or two like you said.

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27 Nov 2023 22:32:51
@Tags. I didn't see his presser so that is interesting based on what my thoughts are. Thanks.

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27 Nov 2023 23:44:57
@RLF that's my thoughts on the 1 year deals as well. From the start I thought he was positioning himself for an overhaul. 30+ million in cap space after this season.

I also don't blame him in not going for it. Mathews is locked up, so if you do well great if not, reevaluate in the off season.

I think he wants Zadorov so he can resign him to a long term extension. He seems to really like the guy.

@Tags I hadn't seen that. Good info.

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28 Nov 2023 00:36:26
You're welcome guys. I read the Q&A from Maple Leafs Hot Stove MLHS site. I find they have the best and most knowledgeable writers on their staff.
Really like the Game in 10 write ups after the games & Leafs Notebook, which comes out every Monday or Tuesday (normally really good insights) .

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28 Nov 2023 16:15:18
i agree with this statement as well. but think hif can add a young player like Peeke to add to next year or even a deal for Walker would be nice. other than small moves but for non UFA players I can see him doing. unless he want's to go for 1 big fish like Hanifin where the player resigns for 8 years to have a solid left side D of


then get cheaper fillers for next year for right side like Peeke, Walker and Liljegren for bottom 3rd pair

But Tre was brought in so quickly and had to deal with a star C needing a contract. along with the Willy deal . very bad defense group and no clear cut #1 goalie with Murray's health and Samsonov going to arb. he definately just plugged some holes withthe left over cap space and did not sign anyone to silly long term deals. all show me contracts so he could evaluate what he has and add to it next year

Dunno if anyone listens to former enforcer Jay Rosehill on YT but his latest assessment of this team is bang on. he thinks Marner needs to that this team's top guys will make fancy places and go on streaks but are soft and don't have the toughness you need to win in the playoffs, The D is porous and needs to be rebuilt and out goaltending is shaky. still lots of work for Tre.

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27 Nov 2023 12:22:55
Bye, bye Keefe!
It's time!

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27 Nov 2023 13:33:56
He's past due. Bring in a new guy now and the team should get the new coach bump in play and also gives the new coach time before playoffs to get them to buy into what he is selling.

That said, the D core is not good as we know. Rarely a team at 10-6-3 fire their coach.

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27 Nov 2023 14:10:57
@RLF record is a bit misleading, only 5 RW, which is only ahead of Montreal in their division. It's time for him to go and I'm sure 90% of the fan base feel the same.
Look, I don't mind him defending Marner with the media (hoping he's sending a different message behind closed doors though) . BUT, to go off from that and point fingers at Robertson for that second goal was bizarre. Where did that even come from?
I just think the pressure is getting to him more than it has in the past. Signs of a mental breakdown are close IMO.
Go after Gallant as you have said in the past. At least he'll hold players accountable, no matter stars or not.

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27 Nov 2023 17:24:45
problem is still Shanny. the way he seems to love the core. do we think for a minute that he would hire or allow to be hired a coach that is gonna keep his "little darlings" accountable? i think he loves a passive coach that does not go after his stars. got to wonder how the preference in treatment is handled by the bottom 6 and bottom pair D when the top guys can do no wrong!

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27 Nov 2023 17:53:39
Tags/ Loxley

All I am saying is The W/ L record may be a bit misleading, but it is still the record and coaches don't typically get fired when the team is sitting in a playoff spot 19 games in with a game or two in hand on most ahead of them. One win and they could be tied for 3rd in the Conference.

Would I like Keefe gone? Yes. I said it in the summer. Gallant would be my choice still. Robertson was the catalyst for that goal against. But yes, he should call out his stars when they aren't going as well and not draw it back later.

They hired Babcock, so I can't say that Shanny won't hire a coach that holds his guys accountable. Coaching style is on Keefe to me. He favours Marner and Matthews more than anyone. Babcock did not. Babcock would put Marner on the 3rd and 4th line if everyone remembers. If Keefe has "lost" the room, it is because he gave it away by playing favourites. It is almost impossible to get it back, once you have lost it.

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27 Nov 2023 19:05:50
Exactly guys, just call a spade a spade is all I ask for.
I don't necessarily need a coach who calls out his players in public, but just be fair across the board.
If someone is not playing well, don't be afraid to bench them for a shift or two (half period) . Whatever you think gets the message across.
I've never liked Keefe just singling out certain players like Nylander & Engvall in past, and so far this year Bertuzzi, Knies and I'm sure Robertson will get his time too.
Be a man Keefe and show some coglione's when need be.

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26 Nov 2023 23:19:01
I think Keefe really has to split up Matthews and Marner for a bit.
Simple switch in my mind, which will hopefully get both going. Right now they are just looking for each other, so everything they do is telegraphed and Knies is like a 3rd wheel playing with them.

Jarnkrok to top line
Knies Matthews Jarnkrok

Marner to third line
Robertson Domi Marner

Marner has played with Domi in juniors, so should be good chemistry between the two.
Plus Marner can always get more minutes playing on PP1 and PKing.

Something has to be done to get both guys going.

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27 Nov 2023 13:19:48
Tags. Yea I said the same thing a little while ago about putting Marner on the 3rd line. Hopefully he would dominate against tougher competiton and regain his form. The other thing is when Willy wouldn't work hard or struggled, Keefe would demote him to the 3rd line. Be consistent. Marner has earned the demotion like Willy did in the past. ALL players should be accountable.

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27 Nov 2023 14:24:38
@RLF 100% agreed, but not expecting it.

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26 Nov 2023 20:26:15
So who are the leafs going to call up next and then have the moronic Keefe not play them?
Or give 4 minutes of ice time to them

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27 Nov 2023 13:20:09
Sounds about right.

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26 Nov 2023 20:08:16
To Toronto loses 2 games that they should have won and the coach says we played pretty good.

Vancouver loses to the Sharks and their coach says this is not what playoff teams do!

The problem is not with the players it is TORONTO'S SOFT COACH!


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26 Nov 2023 23:43:25
Is that why Babs was always calling then soft, and they played soft?

Two things can be true at once.

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26 Nov 2023 15:42:10
Was surprised to hear during last night's broadcast that Marner points wise is exactly where he was last year this many games in and ended up with 97 points....he looks horrible this year age not like a player than can score 97 again

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26 Nov 2023 18:22:04
He never looks good. He's Marner.

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26 Nov 2023 20:42:21
I feel like we are all on repeat when we say Marner and Matthews should not play together. How long are you going to try this experiment before we move on. They will have good game together because they are both extremely talented. But the bad is outweighing the good. Turnovers are a killer. And they are making too many in the wrong areas. Knies included (even though he is my fav) . They try to make 5 on 5 like a power play and it doesn’t work that way. Get the puck in the corner and hunt it down and cycle. I don’t get why Keefe isn’t even experimenting them apart when this is the coach that changes his lines more than he changes his pants. I wonder if they have a day over this?

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27 Nov 2023 17:28:16
@ Clarky. you wouldn't wanna go and upset Little Mitchy" would ya. Matthews is his sandbox buddy!

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26 Nov 2023 13:52:48
Leaf needs: two D, goalie, new coach.

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26 Nov 2023 15:04:33
Which goalie exactly?

Everyone wants a goalie if you haven't noticed. Only maybe 5 goalies are consistently good enough to win a cup. It's about a goalie getting jot at the right time.

Hell boy isn't available
Vassy isn't available
Sorokin isn't available
Saros isn't available
Shesterkin isn't available

Can you name another one that you think is an upgrade, that is available?

2D I agree on, but that's more a deadline deal coming. I'm almost certain Zadorov will be a Leaf.

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