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08 Oct 2024 12:46:52
Below, I had a question about the rules for claiming a player at this time of year. I thought there was something about not being able to send the player down if a team claims him.

This is what I could find, but can't say if it is accurate.

If the waiver claim is made before November 1st of the hockey year, then the NHL standings from the previous year will be used, again with the lowest team in the standings getting first priority.

The team who gets the players has two obligations:

1.They must take on the entirety of the players contract.

2.They must keep the player on their roster for the entirety of the season.

The team winning the claim cannot simply put the players into the minors but must keep the player on their roster for the entirety of the season.

What you will often see happen is that a player will get put on waivers not be claimed and then traded a few days later. Why would a team not claim a player they could get for free and instead trade for him only a few days later?

The main reason would be salary cap implications. A team has to claim the entirety of the player's contract and they often will not have enough cap space to fit the player onto their roster. Therefore, they need to trade a player from their organization or have the other team take on some of the player's salary to make it work with their salary cap.

Anyhow, not sure if that helps anyone, but I thought there was something about not being able to send him down if you claim him now. Seems it may be an issue.

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08 Oct 2024 14:54:22
Interesting!
I knew that the team acquiring a player from waivers needs to have enough cap space to fit the contract and that the player must be added to the team immediately.
I didn't know that said player has to remain on the roster for the entire season. It definitely makes it more of a risk to pick someone up from waivers.

Do you know if the team can put this player on waivers at a later date if he's not working out?

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08 Oct 2024 16:58:25
I was under the impression they couldn't be waived for 30 days not for the year.

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07 Oct 2024 15:07:50
It appears the cap gymnastics are in full force
With LTIR etc they are under $1 😂😂😂

And we keep lilybust

This management team never ceases to amaze on the cap circumvention spinorama

Would love to see the excel spreadsheet on Pridhams computer
lol

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07 Oct 2024 17:33:57
I guess someone is worth their weight in gold, Pridham is a cap genius 🙂.

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07 Oct 2024 18:40:13
Pridham should be paid whatever he asks to keep him.

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08 Oct 2024 10:27:51
Ya Pridham I’m sure earns his money for getting it under. But like, why? Why is he forced to get it under by a $1?. When guys like Liljegren have no business being here. Should have never been signed. Reminds me of the same type of D as Caleb Addison, who was let go by Minny and got a PTO this year just to be cut. This would have been Liljegren if he wasn’t on the Leafs. Instead we overpay him, keep him as a 7th/ 8th D and hope that year 7 is the year he is valuable?

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08 Oct 2024 12:37:06
Hey Clarky
I agree with you that he should be traded. Doesn't seem like Lily is the right fit for this team and Leafs really can't afford a $3M bottom pairing D-man, especially with our cap allocation.
The smart move would have been to trade him before Free Agency and use the extra capital to make a stronger push for Matt Roy!

Imagine
Rielly Tanev
McCabe Roy
Benoit Hakanpaa
Timmins/ Myers.

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08 Oct 2024 19:11:56
I agree with you Tagsy! I was the one right with you on Matt Roy. Him and Tanev +Hakanpaa would have been lights out. I really hope they give Myers a chance because I think he is the most valuable as a bottom pair D/ PK’er over Lily and Timmins. The guy didn’t lose a puck battle in the pre season, fought Josh Anderson (and did ok) and was jumping up in the play. Him and Benoit as the bottom pair would be the bash bros from the Mighty Ducks. I just don’t get excited when Lily is in the line up compared to a Myers type D but am also looking forward to seeing if Timmins can continue where he left off last pre season. 👍.

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09 Oct 2024 01:22:21
Agreed on Myers, Clarky.
I know RLF had been mentioning him for awhile now as a reclamation project. Looks like he's finally grown into his body and is learning how to use it.
A 3rd pair would be amazing with
Benoit & Hakanpaa/ Myers.

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06 Oct 2024 23:35:35
So I'm curious did they give up on nylander at center again? I think it's a pretty big deal for the roster I mean do they put Lorentz at 3C he had a good camp has some offensive upside at least till they can maybe fix that hole

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07 Oct 2024 02:24:34
Nylander at centre was over before it began
Thank goodness
Tredeadthing had a simple job all summer finding another Center just for the third line
Instead he concentrated on Pacioretty a winger and playing mind games with Robertson and decided that 4th liner Lorentz would be a good fit because wingers were so much needed…not…

He failed
Now we get to watch holmberg …Yahoo

Well played GM
Well played.

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07 Oct 2024 16:55:14
@stumpy

I think tree did a great job he adresssd the number one issue the leafs have had for years and that’s the blue line after that there was t much money to go around Robertson was the one playing mind games and said he wasn’t gonna sign. The only knock I have is signing liljgren should of let him walk. A marner trade was the only way we were getting a center and we know shanny won’t trade his boy toy.

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06 Oct 2024 20:50:37
Anybody see some of the interesting players to be waived today?

2 ex leafs in holl and engvall and the new addition in Edmonton Savoie.

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06 Oct 2024 21:39:20
Lavoie not Savoie
Good one Randy😂😂😂.

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06 Oct 2024 21:42:04
Wrong guy Randy.
Oilers put Raphael Lavoie on waivers, not Matthew Savoie.

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06 Oct 2024 23:17:39
Thanks for the correction gentleman. Good think I'm not gm, be over here claiming a plug.

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06 Oct 2024 23:33:09
I wouldn’t mind the leafs picking up Nolan Foote big power forward on the cheap.

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07 Oct 2024 13:42:06
Goat.
Agreed. Isn't there some rule about claiming a player and assigning him to the AHL though?

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07 Oct 2024 16:56:43
@rfl probably that’s.

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08 Oct 2024 04:53:40
@RLF I'm pretty it's that if you claim someone off waivers they still have to clear waivers to go down tk the Marlies.

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06 Oct 2024 16:01:56
Well sounds like it didn’t take old Timmy L to get into the Chiefs bad books. Looks like he’s on the outs hope a trade happens soon.

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06 Oct 2024 17:16:04
FedEx Liljegren and Jarncrap to colombus

Will take a 4th and 7th

Cap space to sign Pacioretty and Lorentz.

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04 Oct 2024 07:01:19
My final prediction on game 1 lineup

Knies matthews domi
Mcmann nylander marner
Robertson tavares pacioretty
Lorentz kampf holmberg
Reaves

Reilly tanev
Mccabe Benoit
OEL Liljgren

Woll
Stolarz.

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04 Oct 2024 10:43:55
Knies matthews marner
McMann Domi Willy
Patches Johnny T Robertson
Lorentz holmberg reaves

Rielly Tanev
OEL mccabe
Benoit hakenpaa/ myers

Woll
Stolarz.

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04 Oct 2024 11:49:18
Jarnkrok, Liljegren, Timmins all traded to make 6.2M in cap space. We are already 1.2M over so we are down to 5M. Sign Lorentz, Patches, Myers and Rifai to one year 1M deal. Leaves us with 1M in cap space to carry an extra F or D and have money to make a move at the deadline if necessary. Nylander experiment sounds like it’s over at C. Didn’t take Berube long to see he is a useless teet in his own end.

Knies Matthews Domi
Robertson JT Marner
McMann Holmberg Nylanderthol
Lorentz Kampf Reaves
Spare: Patches
IR: Dewar

Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Hakanpaa
Spare LD Rifai, spare RD Myers

Love the way Rifai and Myers play and don’t mind seeing them fill in for the void when needed on the back end.

2nd piece I’m calling is Stolarz is gonna steal the net this year over Woll.

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04 Oct 2024 19:20:47
Clarky
Did Nylander sleep with your wife/ girlfriend?
I always read lots of trash talk towards Willy in your posts.

Anyways, I would trade Jarnkrok & Timmins (even Liljegren, but I will leave him on my roster for now) . Plus I really don't think we should sign Patches (Robertson has won that position IMO) .

Lines
Knies Matthews Marner
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson Holmberg Domi
Dewar Kampf Reaves/ Lorentz ($.775M)
$60.058M Forwards

Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Liljegren
Rifai Hakanpaa
$24.095M Defense

Woll
Stolarz
$3.266667

23 man roster
Cap hit $87.419667.

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04 Oct 2024 21:28:14
Tags I thought it was pretty clear I’m not a Nylander fan. One dimensional F that wont engage in physical battles, stick up for his teammates or backcheck. But eats up 11.5M? Can’t win in the playoffs with guys like these making that much. We have too many and for me, Willy has the most downside to his game.

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04 Oct 2024 21:29:16
Plus Tags are you calling my wife gay? 😂.

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04 Oct 2024 22:30:13
Clarky
Any woman being with pretty boy Willy Styles would love it, lol.

We'll disagree on Nylander. I think he wins more than his fair share of board battles and back checks more than you give him credit for.
I think he's come through more than any of the other Core 4 guys in the playoffs.
I'll give you the fact that he may not always be engaged in the play and has some lazy moments, but I think its getting less and less often over the years.
Willy loves the city and has the best persona to strive in this market (rides the subway to the arena) .
As far as sticking up for his teammates, what do you mean? I haven't seen Marner, Matthews or Tavares sticking up for teammates. Only Rielly from the top guys, consistently sticks up for teammates.

But I do agree with the outrageous contracts our stars player get paid, it makes it more difficult to foster a balanced competitive team. Hopefully with the rising cap, we'll be able to create a more balanced team in the years ahead.

Loving the North style of play that Berube instills in this group.

Go Leafs Go!

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04 Oct 2024 02:01:36
My 23 Man Roster to start the season for the Leafs,

Knies Matthews Marner
Patcharedy Tavares Robertson
McMann Domi Nylander
Lorentz Kampf Holmberg
Reaves Pare (extras)

Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Myers
Llyigren

Woll
Stolarz

** Trade candidates Jarnkroc, Kampf, Llyigren, Timmons

$8.5 million in cap space to trade for prospects or picks

There is lots of depth in Marlies to off set all of these players mentioned to be traded.

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04 Oct 2024 01:48:52
Gotta give it to Robertson he earned his spot hope he get put in a favourable position. Also how nice is it that the leafs have goalies that don't swim in the net lol

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03 Oct 2024 23:58:22
Knies Matthews marner
Robertson Tavares Nylander
McMann Domi Pacioretty
Holmberg Kampf Jarnkrok
Lorentz Reaves Dewar

Two must go
Kampf and Jarnkrok
Frees up 4.5 million
Trade them for picks

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02 Oct 2024 19:28:16
F’N last minute Brad. Trade Liljegren and Jarnkrok already what’s the hold up? Man this makes a presentation out of everything.

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03 Oct 2024 15:31:31
I don't think either one is getting traded. They clearly want to keep Lilly especially. I'm not sure why, but I'd be surprised if he's traded.

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03 Oct 2024 20:03:49
Well who do they move LL? All these guys aren’t sitting in the press box and we are over cap. Who do you think they will trade?

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04 Oct 2024 02:08:42
Wendel Clark
For Mats Sundin

That’s the trade ClarkyMalarkey!

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04 Oct 2024 10:37:52
Clarky. I’m thinking 2 out of these 4 will be traded. Jarnkrok, Lilly, timmins or I still could see them trading kampf and using holmberg in that 4 line role I personally hope they trade jarnkrok and Lilly.

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01 Oct 2024 01:46:15
Bruins
Nylander Woll Holmberg
Leafs
Swayman Poitras Frederic

Memories..of the Rask -Raycroft debacle 😂

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