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26 Oct 2020 01:53:22
You want a defence first tough as nails coach amazing PK coach Mr.Dubas and Keefe

My vote goes to 41 year old Everett WHL coach Dennis Williams

Known the guy since age 13 through tourneys and what not and it's time leafs go this route

Keefe handles big 4
Williams does rest

The guy is a team guy. Wasn't huge but fought anyone anytime and coaches the same. If you aren't a team guy he will set u straight

Everett has no 1 star but since 2017 best 2 goalies in whl and team D.

Just written/sayin

I know dubas reads this once in a while
U want team D and toughness

I vote Dennis Williams

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25 Oct 2020 22:23:36
Everyone celebrating how great the Dermott deal is. But how great is it? Dubas saved $750,000 - $1M at most. Not much.

I think Holl is a great player. But is he over a $1M player a year better than Dermott? When Holl signed his extension he had far less games played than Dermott. How about Sandin being paid more? Dermott is the lowest paid defenseman on the team. How does that make him feel right now?

A one year “prove it” deal after he already proved he is capable of taking on more responsibility last year when Muzzin and Rielly we’re injured seems a little redundant. He already proved himself by playing over 20 minutes a night against the oppositions top lines and not looking completely lost doing it.

I thought he did an admirable job in a tough situation and deserved to be rewarded. I read all the time here about how great some of you think Dermott is. Do you not think he deserves his fair share too?

It’s clear Dubas thinks Dermott is a “dud”.

I won’t celebrate Dermott’s signing as good for the team. I think it’s a low move by Dubas. Dermott is not a “dud”. He’s a damn good player that works hard and deserved better.

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26 Oct 2020 02:21:19
I agree but I think due to flat cap and the leafs limited cap space we couldn’t offer much and he wanted to to stay.

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26 Oct 2020 02:38:32
Agree

But holl Mikheyev kerfoot could all be exposed

Dermott stays signs next summer for whichever guy leaves for Seattle money

But still Dermott better be getting weekly treats by big 4 as a thank you.

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24 Oct 2020 23:16:28
So really this is how I look at the leafs defence.
Left side
Riley
Muzzin
Lehtonen
Sandin


Right side
Brodie
Holl
Bogosian
Dermott

We have a number one d man and Brodie and muzzin are very good number two and 3. Now here's where it gets tricky. In my opinion one of Bogosian or Holl makes the team.

And honestly I have a good feeling that dermott and Bogosian is going to be the bottom pair. So that pairs set, top pair is set now it's just whoever looks better with muzzin

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25 Oct 2020 03:30:21
Hard to tell. Lehtonen can play right side he said. Same with Dermott. Sandin probably stays in the AHL as he really isn't needed this year barring injury and it should help him develop playing 1PP time and 1st pairing.

If I was a betting man I would say it's more likely

Reilly Brodie
Muzzin Holl
Dermott Lehtonen

To start the year.

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25 Oct 2020 03:44:08
Rielly Muzzin Brodie

Then
Holl Bogosian dermott Lehtonen

Sandin to AHL

12 fwds
7 dmen
2 goalies

They carry 21 for cap compliance.

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24 Oct 2020 17:27:30
Why don’t we try to sign Josh Leivo and give him and opportunity. He played very well in Vancouver and got an chance to revamp his career and play with some good NHL stars. With the depth forwards that Toronto has signed, he should sign back here and be on our third or fourth line and give Robertson and opportunity to develop his game with m the minors and when he develops then he can play in the big leagues. You give Leivo a one year $700k deal to prove himself that he can play on a stacked team like this and be in the lineup every night then sign him to an extension and if he doesn’t play up to his standards then trade him mid season or trade deadline. Easy as that.

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25 Oct 2020 00:03:50
He signed with Calgary.

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25 Oct 2020 03:30:40
Why would he even want to come back?

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25 Oct 2020 14:10:03
No babcock. I was a big leivo fan. Babcock may have tainted a homegrown boys love for the leafs.

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25 Oct 2020 17:03:37
That's my point though Randy. He was here for a bit same as Connor brown. Would have happily kept them both. Don't think either comes back now though.

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23 Oct 2020 21:25:37
Dermott is best valued cap hit in nhl

Can't argue that

Laine plus a 1st for every extra million his 1 year 6.5 has on it

That's 5 1sts folks

Show me my logic is wrong

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23 Oct 2020 21:27:16
Makes sense to me.

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23 Oct 2020 21:52:26
Yeah that Dermott deal is shockingly low. I expected 1.5M. I wonder if Dermott was committed to a one year deal and that's how they made it work.

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23 Oct 2020 22:53:01
Even at one year I expected 1M+ maybe not much more but something. That's the first discount I have seen.

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24 Oct 2020 06:27:45
I think the leafs likely said sign for this or play in Europe.

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24 Oct 2020 06:31:27
I also think the leafs wanted 1 year so they can sign him after expansion.

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25 Oct 2020 22:11:32
What did Dubas save? $1M at the most?

If we have to celebrate because Dubas ripped Dermott off $1M to overpay for MNMT, then something is seriously wrong with our cap situation.

Sandin makes more than Dermott. How does that make Dermott feel?

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26 Oct 2020 02:41:26
Crappy unless big 4 reward him weekly

I’m not celebrating dubas
I’m celebrating Dermott he is a true leaf.

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23 Oct 2020 14:55:49
Accidentally sent the last post by accident. With Igor he was just garbage and packed his back and went back to Russia. Now with Lehtonen I know he’s from Sweden and players from Sweden always end up being great players. But I’m not so sure he is going to play great. I’ve surface is smaller in the NHL and you got the media as well so we will see what happens.

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23 Oct 2020 14:53:03
There’s something that has been on my mind that I want to air out. To be honest I don’t think Mikko Lehtonen is going to pan out and have a good career in the NHL and here’s why. If you look at the defencemen that come from the KHL and come in sign in the NHL to play in North America. They never really end up playing as well as we expect them to play. For example, look at Nikita Zaitsev and Igor Ozhiganov. They played great in the KHL and when they had an opportunity to come and play in the NHL, everyone was hyped because we all as Toronto fans expected them to put up good numbers. Never worked out. Zaitsev wanted out and got traded and had one great season in the NHL and never had had a season like that again and.

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23 Oct 2020 00:51:21
Rumor is Joyce is going to be Dubas’ replacement. I just started that Rumor myself.

Rumor also is that MacLean will be Keefe’s replacement. I just started that Rumor too.

Beyond all the on-ice changes, these two moves are the two that I might be the most excited about. I can actually see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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23 Oct 2020 04:54:45
I have no issue with Keefe personally. Would like to see him given a chance even if Dubas is fired. Obviously depending on performance going forward though.

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23 Oct 2020 09:56:18
I feel the same way about Keefe too. Haven’t seen enough of him to be able to judge him. Next year is a big one for him. Unfortunately for him, he’s been thrust into a position under a microscope on the worlds biggest stage and might not be given much leash.

He was Dubas’ handpicked coach and expected to do better than Babcock. If he doesn’t outperform Babcock, then he was no better than the last coach that just got fired.

It might seem unfair to him, but 20 games in if the Leafs are only at .500 like they were under Babcock, watch out.

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23 Oct 2020 14:04:09
Yea, I am good with seeing what Keefe will do, but under the circumstances they will play under, is it going to be a true evaluation? He does seem to adjust and not stuck in his ways, which is a good thing because this will not be a normal year again.

Dubas has to be on the hot seat. His stars contracts have 4-5 years left and he will need a goalie and get Rielly re-signed in the meantime. 4-5 years left when we haven't got out of the first round yet, seems like lots of time, but a lot of times it isn't.

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23 Oct 2020 14:32:22
Babcock was fired shortly after the 20 game mark, as soon as Leafs hit .500. The team finished the year 12-15 under Keefe. Practically the same performance. If they start the year the same way, I expect the axe to fall. As it finally should.

The regular season means nothing (unless they do so bad they miss the playoffs), and we all know it.

I really hope the Leafs step up big next year IN THE PLAYOFFS and embarrass me for all the things I’ve said.

But I doubt it.

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23 Oct 2020 21:28:58
Have said that for awhile as well HL. Everybody likes to point to how great they did under keefe. The usual rally happened and after that the team played exactly the same.

I'm willing to give him the year because I have no reason to doubt Keefe as a coach but if things don't improve it has to be Dubas' head.

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