13 Apr 2024 21:10:56
Now might be the time to pick the carcass of the failed Yotes. I'm sure not everyone will want to move to Utah.

They seem to really. like Jack mcbain, but I'd love to throw some offers out there. Maybe Robertson+late-ish pick?

14 Apr 2024 02:08:24
I'm not sure if there will be a carcass. I would assume Utah will want to be good, especially since the League is expected to buy the team for $1B.

14 Apr 2024 03:06:07
@RLF doesn't mean every player wants yo move to Utah. It's unlike any other place in NA in a lot of ways, ans they signed up for Arizona.

Good time to at least try.

14 Apr 2024 05:44:47
It is the management who determine the trades not the players.

14 Apr 2024 13:17:07
LL. Yes, but as waterbuffalo said, the players under team control don't get to decide, unless you are predicting a revolt from the players. I doubt players wanted to go from Atlanta to Winnipeg either. Does Robertson+ get McBain? Maybe. But I don't think it will be because all the players demand to get out of playing in Utah.

15 Apr 2024 13:37:06
The fact that Arizona has to win the land auction, for their new arena and the league already has Utah as a contingency plan. Kinda stinks of some shady dealings. Someone just has to outbit Yates ownership (the league and or Utah owners) .

15 Apr 2024 19:22:33
Leafs67. It is weird isn't it.

15 Apr 2024 22:42:08
@L67 the best part is the league taking 200m for no reason.

16 Apr 2024 14:26:02
Vegas paid 500M, Seattle 650M.
Utah 700+M?
Outbit the Yotes, then flip the property. Almost seems to easy lol.

16 Apr 2024 21:53:50
@L67 pretty sure Utah is paying 1.2b.

17 Apr 2024 11:29:37
Wow! So is the fee just gonna continue to double?

17 Apr 2024 21:16:26
Yeah, franchise values are skyrocketing league wide. If you pay 1.2b to acquire the Yotes, what is a real team worth?

18 Apr 2024 13:52:17
I believe the $1.2B is for lock stack and barrel. Players, management, equipment etc. The fees paid by Vegas and Seattle were just for the franchise fees. How does that all equate value wise? I have no idea.

18 Apr 2024 14:57:55
@RLF they're calling this an "expansion" though, so I'm assuming it's a way of pulling some shady moves to make more money.

18 Apr 2024 16:24:20
LL. IIRC, there is something in their about the current Yotes ownership has 5 years to be able to bring a team back to Arizona or something like that. New arena site, Shovels in the ground on a new arena, finances in order etc have to all be done in 5 years. It is a strange situation. It's like the League is giving the owner $1B and 5 years to get it done and then charging the Utah group $1.2B to have the franchise, but Arizona ownership has 5 years to show they can have a franchise and likely the League then charges them a franchise fee. I don't know. It's confusing.

18 Apr 2024 19:15:37
@RLF that's the odd part. It's like a billion dollar loan, as he also has to spend 1B if he wants the team.