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23 Jan 2021 00:45:42
To Toronto

To Florida

The rest of the Swedes for 2 Finns

Barkov makes Toronto so freakin good that having nutivaara on unfit to play is worth it

Just a fun trade
Will be a tough 4 games while waiting on barkov to show up but if leafs tread water watch this lineup

Hyman Matthews marner
Kerfoot tavares simmonds
Vesey barkov Mikheyev
spezza barabanov

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin holl
Dermott bogosion

Andersen /Campbell

Boyd,Anderson,Brooks,Hutchison taxi

Thornton Robertson Long term injury's
Nutivaara unfit

81.55 cap hit so Thornton's salary used as LTIR

Imagine the lines once everyone is healthy.

Robertson barkov Mikheyev kinda excites me

You could even give Matthews and marner barkov sometimes. The line combos could really be fun to make up

I know this probably never happens but it's fun to think of lol


1.) 23 Jan 2021 04:23:57
Oh man, if florida was willing to do this I would take it. They can even have a first along with that package. Barkov makes this team an instant favorite.

2.) 23 Jan 2021 22:09:49
I agree 100%

Just thought dubas seems to be grabbing finish and Russian players lately and getting rid of Swedish guys .

Why not do 1 giant sweep of the organization and berid leafs of every Swedish asset they have and grab one of the best finish centres of all time in the process

Made me laugh doing it even though it’s a tad if not enormously far fetched.

3.) 24 Jan 2021 13:21:23
Kokkonen and loponen are Finns as well




22 Jan 2021 16:57:25
With injuries and daily soreness starting to creep in many lineups it's time the leafs get depth at center.

Kerfoot just doesn't do it for me if JT or Matthews are out of action and spezza can't be more than a 4th liner.

Engvall doesn't get a shot and Boyd is simply an extra player no more than a 4th liner

Looks like Dubois and torts are at it again so time to jump on this before Vancouver or montreal do

To columbus
Kerfoot vesey engvall (4.575 leaving Toronto) plus rodian amirov since Columbus wanted him at draft any ways.

Dubois (5 but need to replace 1 extra guy so 5.7 coming to Toronto)
So to make this work Columbus needs to retain 1.125 million minimum so ask to retain 2 for some flexibility.

For Columbus doing this Toronto offers 2021 2nd round pick which is about value of 2 million retaining

Kerfoot vesey engvall amirov 2nd 2021
Dubois(40% retaining)

Is this enough or too much

Not dealing any of the big 4. It's basically a deal of depth and prospect and pick for 1 guy

Hyman Matthews marner
Nylander Tavares simmonds
Mikheyev Dubois Anderson
Brooks spezza Boyd

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin holl
Dermott Bogosian

Thornton hurt
Robertson hurt

Lehtonen Sandin taxi

When injuries subside
Robertson joins Dubois Mikheyev
Thornton spezza Anderson become 4th
Brooks and Boyd join taxi


1.) 22 Jan 2021 17:31:49
Because Dubois has 2 years that means it’s 2X2 for the retaining so leafs either add 2022 2nd rounder to cover that extra 2 million retaining or offer liljegren.

Also due to all players needing to quarantine 7-10 days that retaining is a must as for those days leafs need to cover Dubois roster spot but he is counted on main roster

During this time

Hyman Matthews marner
Mikhayev Tavares Anderson
Brooks Nylander simmonds
Spezza Boyd

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin holl
Dermott Bogosian
Lehtonen / Sandin

3-4 games until Dubois shows up.

2.) 22 Jan 2021 17:36:41
With all the teams apparently in play, I think that offer gets beat. As I said at the start, Montreal will be all over this. I wouldn't be surprised to see them offer something like Suzuki+ (+) .

3.) 22 Jan 2021 18:33:02
Suzuki won’t be involved

That kotkenemi (no clue on spelling) plus an add probably is as far as montreal will go.

They won’t want to mess with chemistry. This team looks legit or Vancouver just looks bad lol.

4.) 22 Jan 2021 19:35:35
The effort I'm seeing from Dubois is childish. If this is all it takes then sure but I wouldn't give much more.



17 Jan 2021 23:48:12
Rielly for ristolainen
Brodie for mcnabb

This will give leafs 4 of the top 20 defensive hit and stat leaders in the nhl

Then go get Matt Martin and uncle Leo back for kerfoot and vesey then we will get extra 500 hits added to leafs stats

Then leafs can be top 5 nhl in hits

Do these trades make them cup contenders?


1.) 18 Jan 2021 01:53:55
Marincin is actually a decent hitter as well and he's still on the team.



10 Jan 2021 14:20:14
Let's stick with rangers theme here

To rangers

To leafs
Tarmo reaumanen
Brett Berard
Hunter Skinner

Get Sandin some playing time he deserves it and will make rangers lineup now

Tarmo is yet another very good dman from Finland. He has 2 ties to leaf players this year. He was hollowells d partner for 7 games with Turku and Emil rasanens d partner with HPK. He is left handed and could be a good partner for Topi

Berard no relation to Bryan even though both from Rhode Island still comes from a hockey family. His dad played goal for providence and coaches in those island while his mom also going to providence played field hockey.
Brett is a very quick but smaller 2 way forward/center who played for gold medal USA and is currently with providence. Didn't get much attention on that USA team but played a solid shutdown 3rd line role helping with USA 🇺🇸play great neutral zone game vs Canada

Get Skinner now before he gets unleashed with the knights. Great RHD who was stuck behind a few great import Dmen on knights but now becomes the man with London if season ever gets going. He will be a beauty size and skill combo get him before anyone knows about him

3 prospects for 1 guy getting shafted on this leaf team


1.) 10 Jan 2021 18:38:38
Seems like a bit of quality for quantity hoping 1 will hit. But you should no better than me on these guys. I was looking at your other Ranger comments.

2021 2nd



2.) 11 Jan 2021 01:25:04
Sandin/ Dermott probably don't have a place on this team anymore if Reilly is resigned. I wouldn't mind this trade. Just hope one of them sticks.

3.) 11 Jan 2021 02:57:20
I think Leafs should deal one of either Sandin or Dermott too. Despite the fact that I am a big fan of Dermott, it appears to me that the writing is on the wall with regards to his future.

Dubas trades down to get Dermott. He traded up to get Sandin. Sandin is protected from expansion draft. Dermott is not. And of course, Sandin did play for Soo a half year. got to imagine that Dubas is fully invested in Sandin.

At this point, they need to make a decision on what is best for both player and team.

Dermott deserves better. Give him the Leivo treatment and let him play somewhere he gets opportunity. Rangers would love to have him on the team. I could see him being a star in the big city of bright lights.

4.) 11 Jan 2021 02:59:21
I answered your question on Nylander too Craigger. It’s down below. I just wanted to post here too in case it gets buried and you miss it.

5.) 11 Jan 2021 15:36:06
I'd do it. I like both targets.

6.) 12 Jan 2021 01:35:04
What would it take to get sandin to blues.

7.) 12 Jan 2021 04:50:35
Sandin for your GM. I like Army.

8.) 12 Jan 2021 14:04:36
That's a good question Colt. I would think it would be something like Neighbours + Peterson/ Kessel/ Fitzpatrick.

9.) 12 Jan 2021 17:08:43
Don’t waste your typing within Colt RLF. You haven’t been on the site long enough to know how partisan he is to the Blues. Every player on their team is better than every player on ours.

And unfortunately for Leafs fans, Colt’s team won the cup recently. So he has bragging rights.

10.) 12 Jan 2021 17:19:04
@HL. Oh, I am aware. The reaction is often good entertainment.

11.) 12 Jan 2021 20:43:39
Neighbors +
Has sandin fallen that much.

12.) 12 Jan 2021 20:45:00

You sir are like the pot calling the kettle black. If I am uber bias then so are you. Lol.



02 Jan 2021 12:19:06
To Tor

To Columbus

Yikes did I just do that


1.) 02 Jan 2021 15:38:31
CLB will want immediate help and Kerfoot and Mikheyev aren't likely to swing the needle enough for CLB, but Dubois may for us if we only give up those two off of the roster. Otherwise we just gave them our top 4 prospects.

Personally, I don't do this one either. I just don't think Dubois is THAT good. Is he even a top 50 player in the NHL yet?
Marner would be considered in the top 50 by most, and Nylander possibly. Yet, it would take way more than Marner or Nylander to land Dubois? I get teams will have competitive offers, but sorry, I just don't get the value being put on Dubois.

2.) 02 Jan 2021 19:49:00
So if kerfoot and Mikheyev isn’t enough either one of rielly, nylander and marner is too much guess we are at a stalemate nothing left to offer that’s it.

3.) 03 Jan 2021 14:59:40
@Craigger. I never said Rielly, Marner or Nylander are too much, I said we shouldn't have to add a lot if any one of those are in the trade. I wouldn't do Rielly for Dubois because we need Rielly more then Dubois. My point being if Dubois is worth Rielly, Robertson, Amirov, Liljegren, 2021 1st as you suggested, then what are Nylander and Marner worth? Shouldn't Marner get us Jones,2021 1st and at least an A prospect? Nylander should at minimum be worth Jones+ then. I don't think anyone would suggest that would happen though. I just don't see how Dubois is worth so much more than Rielly, Marner or Nylander.

4.) 03 Jan 2021 22:26:19
It’s that 4 year gab between Dubois and rielly and the fact in 2 years 1 is ufa the other is rfa

Such a good debate I love these conversations.

5.) 04 Jan 2021 12:58:14
I understand that, but doesn't that prove my point on Marner or Nylander's worth than. Jones is UFA in two years, so is Rielly. Jones is a #1 D, Rielly is a #1 D. Both are 26 and Jones makes $.4M more than Rielly.
Jones is 3 years older than Marner and Marner is signed for 3 more years. Jones ranked higher than Rielly, but Marner ranked higher than Dubois. So, Marner = Jones, 1st and (Foudy)? Jones is 2 years older than Nylander and Nylander is on a solid contract for 2 years longer. Nylander = Jones, 1st?
If Dubois can get basically Rielly, (3) 1sts and a former 1st D-man prospect, then shouldn't we just put Marner or Nylander on the market and rake in a haul. If we can get say Myers, Lindblom (need to balance cap), Frost and a 1st for Nylander, maybe we should do it;)

6.) 04 Jan 2021 15:50:35
Yeah i agree

I’m sure it won’t take that haul to get Dubois I was just makin sure you get him. Columbus couldn’t possibly refuse that deal.

Your reading is great and would love to grab at least 1 haul of picks and prospects now before marner or nylander play out more years. Score with one of them when u can

Great point.




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24 Jan 2021 20:16:17
Actually you need to deal kadri for kerfoot now as leafs are .8 over and that’s not including the 1.2 Kessel takes up. So 2 is needed

Kadri and kerfoot differance is 1 so shave 1 million

I’m not sold on markstrom. The defence is basically same just a tad younger now. Yes leafs have better depth but as rnh knows all to well Neal is now a middle 6 guy not too 6. Johnson you can say same.
Andersen won’t get a 1st back on his own. Maybe a 3rd. Either way I prefer kassian over Neal. May not be as offensive but now every line has a dirty guy and some lines 2. Lol

Yeah If you get kassian and now keep kadri i definetly am on board. Neal and no kadri isn’t worth it. Funny how kadri really adds as a 3C PP and can fill in on any line invade of injury or just because. I deal I’d take back but way more to this then him just getting dealt.




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24 Jan 2021 20:02:58
Does Pittsburgh need Dermott and if so get we done.




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24 Jan 2021 20:02:14
I don’t know if Pittsburgh does this deal but it’s fair value depending who you ask.

Miled wood I like and yes this deal saves 4 million to use elsewhere but if nylander got traded that’s basically it for adding to this roster so you better get 2 guys worth at least 6 million combined or that 4 million will just sit all year never to get used

You can’t afford top end skill wise to deal the other 3. Muzzin Brodie can’t go anywhere. Rielly would be a dumb move. Holl is playing like a 4 million player right now. The rest of the D are all just plugs. I can’t see Mikhayev or Hyman going anywhere. Thornton and summoned Cant. Spezza won’t and vesey who cares. Guess you could deal kerfoot but then to spend even 2 million extra I don’t see anyone giving up a 5.5 player back for him. The rest are all plugs.

I mean Keats have future 1sts but realistically only have 3 viable prospects worth anything to gain a 4 million dollar forward. Liljegren isn’t worth enough to move needle as solid add. Really it’s this deal then done so hopefully you are happy enough with miles bastian to make this deal

Miles isn’t a 20 goal man yet. He flirted with it once then 2 years if blah. Amazing 3rd liner would be great beside kerfoot and jankowski. Bastian gets shot with Mikhayev and Tavares and Hyman Matthews marner gets back together. The 4th line is actually good with vesey spezza simmonds with simmonds flip flopping with bastian.

I mean it’s not bad but the 3 with the role they become on this team might flirt with 40 maybe 50 goals combined if lucky however nylander stays and vesey and simmonds simply slide up to 3rd line while any plugger fills in bottom 2 spots. I’m sure 40 goals plus the extra goals vesey and sim minds get with more time might get leafs 50 or 60 now.

I get your point that yeah go get that 4 million guy but again who are you going to deal for him

Trading nylander yes. Like his dad if he doesn’t smarten up could have a 15 year 7 team career never staying with same team after the leafs more than 2 years. Just sayin smarting up nylander you’re better than this.




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24 Jan 2021 16:01:08
Cap don’t work and not sure if robertson can go to taxi since it’s equivalent to minors and Robertson can’t go that way. He is on Long term injury right now with Thornton.




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24 Jan 2021 15:59:42
I like your ideas very well thought out

I’ll only point out 1 thing. Unless Hyman and Andersen sign extensions before the expansion draft then no need to protect.

Other than that not bad at all.





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