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10 Aug 2021 17:48:55
Would you make this trade?
Marner to the Ducks for Gibson and Rackell.
Or Marner for Gibson and Manson

davido

1.) 10 Aug 2021 18:51:50
@Davido. Any vet on the Ducks the past 2-3 seasons is hard to judge if they are really declining or if it is all due to being on such poor teams. Before signing Mrasek, I would have given the first deal more thought, but Mrasek also has a M-NTC, so do we really want over $10M tied up in two goalies. Should be a great combo though if Gibson plays like the Gibson we think he is.
Hertl has been dropping off each year, but that could just be a lack of quality players to play with. If he does well in Toronto, even with Marner's cap hit gone, can we afford him moving forward if he wants in the $6M+ range.


 

 

03 Aug 2021 01:31:55
Here's a crazy idea. Now that the Leafs have one Ritchie, how about trading Engvall to the Flames for Brett Ritchie. The Leafs save 350K.
Top 3 Leafs lines:
Nylander Matthews Marner
Ritchie Tavares Ritchie
Bunting Kerfoot Mikheyev
Simmonds Brooks Spezza

davido

1.) 03 Aug 2021 13:26:49
Not a crazy idea at all. He was able to produce in the A, but it has never translated to the NHL. Big body that likes the physical game, so with Sutter behind the bench now, he may get a better opportunity in Calgary.


2.) 04 Aug 2021 12:15:35
It makes sense that Sutter will give Ritchie a better opportunity. This team needs to score more "ugly" goals as that is what it takes in the playoffs. Tavares seems to do okay with wingers that score those ugly tip-in and rebound goals. Putting Nylander at LW with Marner and Matthews allows them to be creative and pretty.
Maybe Bunting with Tavares and Ritchie if we can't get Brett out of Calgary.
I think Dubas did okay signing Bunting and Ritchie for that net front presence scoring Hyman type goals. And Kampf should fill Hymans PK spot.


 

 

22 Jun 2021 15:44:59
So there is a rumor circulating that Tkachuk wants out of Calgary. If that is true, could a Marner for Tkachuk deal be worked out?
Tkachuk might really like the big stage and all the attention in Toronto.
Also, if the Leafs are losing Hyman, could Foligno be signed for a 1 or 2 year contract worth around 3 - 3.5?
Adding Tkachuk, Foligno for 3.5 and Simmonds for league minimum would make the Leafs fun to watch next season. They would also have the money to sign a big, physical D-man like Oleksiak or Savard.

davido

1.) 22 Jun 2021 16:33:34
Good ideas but I mean they already tried the physical veteran route I think there going to go more skilled based. A player that could work tho is Evander Kane or Boone Jennor guys like that.


2.) 22 Jun 2021 18:20:44
Tkachuk is younger than Kane and has less off ice issues. Adding Tkachuk to Matthews, Tavares and Nylander would be a solid add. He is also 3.9 million cheaper than Marner. With that money the Leafs could add someone like Blake Coleman.
Essentially it would be Marner for Tkachuk and Coleman.
Signing Foligno as a 3C for 3-3.5 would be a fairly low risk move. He is good defensively and is tough. He is also good on the PK and still provide leadership. He would contribute more than either Thornton or Kerfoot.
Simmonds would be a depth move for league minimum.


3.) 22 Jun 2021 18:52:01
I don't want Mathew.


 

 

17 Jun 2021 14:33:56
Anderson contract saves 5 million
Reilly 5 million
Marner 10.9 million
Total money saved = 20.9 million
Add in Hyman at 2.25 and Galchenyuk 1 million plus 3.5 when Seattle takes Kerfoot = 27.65 million

If the Leafs only got draft picks or players on ELC in trade, the Leafs could probably sign any 5 or 6 of the following:
Tomas Tatar
Mikael Granlund
Erik Haula
Adam Larsson
Travis Zajac
Jaden Schwartz
David Savard
Nikita Gusev
Alec Martinez
Blake Coleman
Sean Kuraly
Barclay Goodrow
Jamie Oleksiak
Mike Reilly
Mattias Janmark
Corey Perry
Devan Dubnyk
Chris Driedger
Linus Ullmark

Personally I would pick Savard and Oleksiak on defense
Schwartz, Granlund and Haula on forward
Either Ullmark or Driedger in goal

davido

1.) 17 Jun 2021 16:15:22
Blake Coleman’s name is another name that stands out to me as someone who the leafs would want as well.


2.) 17 Jun 2021 16:38:37
Leafs have 11.75 in cap space and have 9F 5D 1G and Kessel retain accounted for

If you take marner and rielly away leafs now have 27.65 in
If kerfoot goes to Seattle now 31.15 in cap space

7F 4F 1G and Kessel retain

Now go shopping.


3.) 17 Jun 2021 18:25:20
I agree with you Leafsguy. Coleman would look good on Tavares' wing. Possibly Goodrow as a depth option.
Lots of good choices that would make the Leafs better, even after losing Reilly, Marner and Hyman. Scoring by committee from the forward group. A much deeper team with a very good powerplay and better penalty killing. Sandin can play PP1 in place of Reilly. The only defenseman that can't kill penalties is Sandin.
On defense, Oleksiak is as good as Muzzin, Savard is better than Bogo or Holl. We could have two shut down pairs.

Lineup could be
Robertson/ Coleman, Matthews, Nylander
Coleman/ Robertson, Tavares, Schwartz
Mikheyev, Haula/ Kuraly, Granlund
Goodrow, Brooks, Spezza

Oleksiak, Brodie
Muzzin, Holl
Sandin, Savard

Ullmark or Driedger and Campbell as 1A/ 1B in goal.


4.) 17 Jun 2021 18:31:43
The bottom line is the only way for the Leafs to improve is to move Marner. His 10.9 cap hit is too much of a burden on this team. They don't have enough talent on ELC to really make a difference.
I like Robertson and Sandin, but they won't make a big difference.
Signing depth players to cheap contracts can only take you so far. Look at the depth of the teams in the final four. That's what it takes to win in the playoffs. Their 3rd and 4th lines are much better than what the Leafs iced.
Dubas is betting the farm on Matthews and Marner and a second line center making 11 million.


5.) 18 Jun 2021 00:15:08
Let Andersen walk, trade kerfoot or hope he's claimed by Seattle. Sign Hyman 5x5,Coleman 3x2.5,goodrow 2x1.25,bunting 1mill and bogo 1 mill.


6.) 18 Jun 2021 00:15:44
Also driegder 2x1.5.


 

 

01 Jun 2021 16:40:22
Maybe an easy answer is Marner for Seth Jones. CBJ has the salary cap room to make it happen and the Leafs save 5 million in cap space. If needed, CBJ could throw in Max Domi to make the money work for them.
Maybe something like Marner and Lillegren for Jones and Domi.

davido

1.) 01 Jun 2021 17:04:43
Good thought

I’d live if leafs pried their 1st rounder back from Columbus just because that foligno deal really ended up back firing

But a deal centered around Jones and marner is a great start.


2.) 01 Jun 2021 17:15:54
Here is the question on this though. Why would CLB want Marner and his $11M price tag after watching the past two playoffs?

I think they would rather have something around Rielly or Nylander as the main piece if they were moving Jones to us.

I would think Philly might be interested in Marner and we could get something decent if we were taking back one of their big contracts. (Voracek, JVR for instance)


3.) 01 Jun 2021 17:54:51
Same reason why Columbus fell in love with panarin.
Marner is now the same age panarin was as a rookie and has produced more already. Panarin didn’t develop his shot until he was 27/ 28 so marner is ahead of panarin all ready at this stage.

If Columbus gets marner they are back in playoff picture regardless how marner produces in playoffs

For Columbus it’s about getting to playoffs do regular season performers are wanted. Anything extra done in playoffs for them is just a bonus

That’s why Columbus would want him.


4.) 01 Jun 2021 23:28:48
Columbus didn't trade for Panarin when he was making $11M. Without Jones, their D-core is pretty thin, which would make it unlikely they make the playoffs. They will need a D coming back and if they take on Marner and his contract, it is not likely they go free agency and pay big money for a D-man either, nor is it likely any sign there anyhow when everyone wants out of CLB.


5.) 02 Jun 2021 01:21:00
I think the real question is, why trade Marner for Seth Jones rights? He said he isn't resigning.


6.) 02 Jun 2021 12:53:33
@LL Jones still has one year left on his deal, just like Rielly.


 

 

 

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11 Aug 2021 12:32:09
I agree with you RLF, Dubas missed his chance on Weegar.

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04 Aug 2021 12:15:35
It makes sense that Sutter will give Ritchie a better opportunity. This team needs to score more "ugly" goals as that is what it takes in the playoffs. Tavares seems to do okay with wingers that score those ugly tip-in and rebound goals. Putting Nylander at LW with Marner and Matthews allows them to be creative and pretty.
Maybe Bunting with Tavares and Ritchie if we can't get Brett out of Calgary.
I think Dubas did okay signing Bunting and Ritchie for that net front presence scoring Hyman type goals. And Kampf should fill Hymans PK spot.

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30 Jul 2021 23:56:53
RLF, that is the best trade proposal you have posted yet. That may be the only hope to avoid Dubas screwing up any chance at a cup (or even winning a round in the playoffs) .

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28 Jun 2021 16:16:53
I always like your trade proposals because they are outside the box. I agree with the idea of giving up one "star" player and add some much needed depth with the money saved.

IMO, the only hope for this team to improve is moving the salary of a star player for more depth.

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28 Jun 2021 16:09:48
No criticism from me. I too think Sandin is over rated. Good puck mover but too small and ineffective defensively. If you didn't like Tyson Barrie, you won't like Sandin.
Sandin for McLeod is a fair deal for both teams and I really like it as a Leafs fan.
I like all your signings and if Robertson is to have any success he needs to play on one of the top two lines.

Well done.

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