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14 Sep 2021 01:22:54
Leafs
Dermott
Engvall
2022 4th
Ducks
Manson (50% retained)
If they don't want to retain maybe a third team is involved but who knows.
Lineup next year
Bunting Matthews Marner
Ritchie Tavares Nylander
Kerfoot Kampf Kase
Mikheyev Spezza Simmonds
Riley Brodie
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Manson
For a third pairing defensmen Manson could be very good but yet again who knows. Could be one of the best defence group in the Leauge as it improves last year with two upgrades to the bottom pairing.
1.) 14 Sep 2021 02:28:48
I don’t think ANA would want Dermott of Engvall, they are rebuilding and looking for picks or prospects. Also to add I think Manson is way better than a 3rd pair D man. Likely would cost us a 2nd and a B prospect without the retain. Throw in a 1st and they think about it.
2.) 14 Sep 2021 12:09:42
Ya I wasn’t sure that it would be enough to get it done bc I know Manson used to be good I don’t know how good he still is so I’ll try again but I like the idea of him on our team.
09 Sep 2021 20:56:58
One thing the leafs can't do is overpay for subban. Kerfoot plus Mikheyev is an overpayment. Honestly with the lack of scoring depth can we really afford to move one of them so here's my idea.
Leafs
Abramov
Dermott
New Jersey
Subban (35% retained)
Any team who can do it say Arizona receives
Leafs third
New jersy third
Lineup with subban
Bunting Matthews Marner
Kerfoot Tavares Nylander
Ritchie Kampf Kase
Mikheyev Spezza Simmonds
Riley Brodie
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Subban
1.) 09 Sep 2021 22:04:30
I just don't see how Subban helps the team.
2.) 09 Sep 2021 22:04:39
You need to move Kerfoot to offset cap.
3.) 10 Sep 2021 00:04:53
With 2 million only owing on his contract and jersey being 12 million away from the cap from both ceiling and floor
With a 21.3m differance between ceiling and floor 70.85 is the mid point between the 2. The devils are at 69.332
Now let’s pretend subban gets dealt and a team with space just wants to take his full hit to gain prospects.
Now 60.332 plus the minimum player replacing him gets their cap up just over 61 million.
Why I bring this up well with only 2 million left in salary why not just split the differance take it at 50% gain as many assets as possible and call it a day. Jersey don’t need to watch their cap. Jersey would be dumb to take in a 3rd party or even take cap back
Even at 50% retained a mid level pick and dumping liljegren on them just might do the trick
Then Dubas just had to find a home for kerfoot and Mikhayev and all could be well
Heck I say put subban up with matthews and marner and see what kind of net pressance the guy has. Might find a new lease on his hockey life.
4.) 10 Sep 2021 15:37:44
I actually like the idea of him as a forward manning the point on on the pp, if you have injuries drop him back to D.
06 Sep 2021 14:59:25
I think this is an off-season move perhaps at the draft so we can resign Riley
Leafs
Marner
Canes
Teravinen
2023 1st
2022 2nd
With the cap rising say 1 mill next year I don't think it will rise dramatically but the nhl is heading in the right direction so let's say we have an extra 5.5 mill now say if Morgan Riley wants a two million dollar raise we will still have 3.5 to sign other guys. Plus those two draft picks can be used to get rentals at the deadline.
1.) 06 Sep 2021 18:11:52
Carolina says yes because.?
2.) 06 Sep 2021 22:10:06
Not to mention they don’t have the cap space.
3.) 07 Sep 2021 13:03:28
Yea, agree with LL and JdB. Teravainen still has two years left after this one at $5.4M which is one of the best contracts in the NHL and half of the cap hit of Marner. When it comes time to re-sign him, he probably still takes less than what Marner makes now. Can't see how it makes sense for the Canes.
06 Aug 2021 00:41:15
Leafs
Kerfoot
Dermott
Howell
2023 2nd
Ducks
Rackell (50% retained)
Manson
Cap on 6 mill
Cap leaving 5 mill
If we do have a mill in space then why not do it but if we don't we can easily trade engvall
Lineup next year
Bunting Matthews Marner
Kase Tavares Nylander
Ritchie Rackell Mikheyev
Simmonds Kampf Spezza
Riley Brodie
Muzzin Holl
Sandin Manson
1.) 06 Aug 2021 04:09:01
Wish it was true and that easy.
2.) 06 Aug 2021 04:29:21
Would rather have Dermott at his cap but then overpaid Manson.
3.) 06 Aug 2021 04:55:38
If you just want a third pairing guy give Liljigren a shot.
4.) 06 Aug 2021 12:17:08
This is a good deadline day deal. Tho Anaheim will probably want the leafs first instead of Anderson. But it's make or break season for liljgren. If he doesn't take the 3rhd spot he should be moved out. So it could endcup being moved instead for kerfoot and liljgren and a 3rd.
5.) 06 Aug 2021 21:58:43
@Hrenklin the time to move Lili is rapidly passing. Your not getting value on him very soon.
04 Aug 2021 18:03:46
Obviously dubas won't make a big move I think the roster is pretty much set for next season but I do have one suggestion. But this only happens if Kase is healthy if not then keep what we have.
Leafs
Kerfoot
Howell
2022 7th
Ducks
Rackell (50% retained)
Rackell knows Ritchie well as they played together in Anaheim. I'm not too sure how I really feel abou Kerfoot I mean what you see is what you get. Fast, decently skilled, good penalty killer
Lineup next year if Kase is healthy
Bunting Matthews Marner
Kase Tavares Nylander
Ritchie Rackell Mikheyev
Simmonds Kampf Spezza
That is a really solid team that is full of players who can play up in down the lineup. We also have guys like Malgin and Anderson as extras and Robertson being a wild card and we know Brooks can play the fourth line with Spezza very effectively. We have a lot of depth so we should be fine baring any Injuries.
And honestly Hutchinson was very good last season and I'm comfortable with him being the third goalie.
On defence the depth might be lacking depending on what Lilygreen and Menel can bring to the table.
1.) 04 Aug 2021 18:11:52
I think maybe if you add Manson and Dermott in those deals I would take it but right now for that trade straight up I wouldn’t. I believe Kerfoot and Dermott will be traded together and I think the leafs need to get a player who is exactly like Bogosian to replace him in the bottom pairing on defence. Demers could work if they have cap to sign him or Chara or even in the trade market. As long if we can get someone good on any team to help with the top 6 it would be great.
2.) 05 Aug 2021 02:51:09
I really need to know what makes people believe Bunting is a 1LW. Maybe he is and this is his chance but maybe, he's a middle 6 guy that will get way to much ice time.
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26 Aug 2021 00:45:24
So here's my idea of a leafs lineup to start the year.
Matthews Marner
Tavares Nylander
Mikheyev Kampf
Spezza Simmonds
These are players I feel are guaranteed to make the team. Now I mean these players will fill these roles obviously Kerfoot and others will be on the team it's just where to put them.
So we have 4 spots to fill with these guys fighting for them
Ritchie, Kerfoot, Kase, Bunting, Engvall, Ho sang, Robertson
I could see the first four being the ones who make it now where to put them. I think bunting goes with Matthews and Marner to start so now we need a player for the second line third line and fourth. I could very easily see Ritchie starting with Tavares much like foligno and I could see it being a success. I could see Kerfoot on the third line with Kase on the fourth.
1.) 28 Aug 2021 01:25:35
Ritchie, Kerfoot, Kase and Bunting will be the starters I'm sure. Kase is talented but made of glass so I would expect Engvall to fit in somewhere eventually as well. Maybe Robertson too but I don't see how.
31 Jul 2021 15:19:37
Lineup going into next year
Bunting Matthews Marner
Ritchie Tavares Nylander
Kase Kerfoot Mikheyev
Simmonds Kampf Spezza
I really really like the look of this lineup and with so many depth forwards and like we have two ahl lines that could be fourth lines like for example.
Robertson Brooks Anderson
Engvall Malgin Amedio
We can now trade Engvalls cap and sign a defesmen to fight for the third pair rd. Then we would have this on defence
Riley Brodie
Muzzin Holl
Dermott Rd
Sandin Lilygreen
1.) 31 Jul 2021 19:07:41
What’s with the bunting love. I mean I like the kid but top line already.
Mikheyev Engvall simmonds ritchie kase kampf spezza bunting Gabriel
That to me is the peckin order for top 6 LW
If u earn it you got to take it from the guys ahead of you.
31 Jul 2021 02:12:26
Bunting Matthews Marner
Kerfoot Tavares Nylander
Mikheyev Kampf Kase
Simmonds Engvall Spezza
Robertson Brooks Gabriel
Amedio Malgin Anderson
Agostino, Seymonov
That's a lot of foward depth
Like a lot
1.) 31 Jul 2021 10:41:27
What forward depth? What are people seeing that I'm not?
When I talk about forward depth I don't mean "Yeah that guy's cheap he'll do. " I mean it as "That's a solid top 9 with a shutdown fourth line. "
Simmonds has been hurt constantly and didn't do much after his injury, Kase is made of glass even if he is extremely skilled, Malgin doesn't have a place on a contending roster barring catastrophe, Bunting IS NOT a first line LW, Mikheyev has stone hands, Engvall has been pooped on by every Leafs fan since he signed that deal (don't sing his praises now), Agastino is a fringe Angler or someone else would want him, Robertson/ SDA/ Brooks are largely unproven, Kampfe makes Mikheyev look like a Rocket nominee, etc
I could name everyone on the list but that isn't forward depth. I could just throw random names about on any team and say "Yeah that's some depth alright" but it doesn't make it true.
The part we all know is missing is something like Connor brown as a 3RW, Kadri as a 3C and Hyman as a 1LW.
Dubas is feeding everyone hamburger and calling it caviar.
I'm also going to mention this. Mrazek has the advanced stats of a backup goalie at best. If Halal wanted 1.5 on a 1 year deal why not just give him 3.5 on a 1 year deal and then pay Soup if he works out?
Don't believe the lies anymore. I have tried to be optimistic for too long. Dubas has completely lost the plot if he believes Bunting replaces Hyman (as much as I actually like the Bunting signing)
2.) 31 Jul 2021 13:10:49
Marlie depth that’s what this is.
Marlies for the Calder Cup.
24 Jul 2021 05:25:49
Leafs lineup going into next year
??? Matthews Marner 22.5 mill
??? Tavares Nylander 17.9 mill
Mikheyev Kerfoot Simmonds 6 mill
Engvall Brooks Spezza 2.75 mill
Riley Brodie 10 mill
Muzzin Holl 8.2 mill
Dermott Sandin 2.2 mill
Campell 1.5 mill
???
The total cap hit for this team is around 71 mill. So we have 10 mill to fill 3 positions. Let's assume nick Robertson can make the jump and play in the top 6 bam now we have 9 mill to spend on a first line left winger and a goalie. Say we spend 3 mill on a goalie. Now we have 6 mill for a first line left wing. Say we spend 4 mill on a guy similar to Hyman to play with Matthews and Marner now we still have 2 mill in cap space well guess what we trade Dermott and bring up Lilygreen now we have another 4 mill to spend on a second line lw or we just spend the 6 mill in one guy and keep Dermott and Roberson there's options
1.) 24 Jul 2021 14:26:14
Capfriendly and you are a little off on your calculations there. To start, we only have about $9.3M. Also, if we trade Dermott and bring up Lily, we don't have $2M extra in cap space, we have only gained about $.5M and if Lily reaches bonuses, that drops to about $.250M. I am not going to go through it all, but the cap is the cap, we can't be over by $1.5M or so and say, well it's close so it works.
2.) 24 Jul 2021 15:24:52
Can be over 10% during offseason then try to figure it out by opening night in NHL when teams must be cap compliant
Reason why Tampa is able to not get penalized. Seattle taking Gourde put them under the 10% over rule yet didn’t insist on grabbing a pick for helping them out. Tampa should of got penalized the way Arizona was. Seattle bails them out but says Screw u to leafs.
People say us leaf fans are player bias to our players. I say league is leaf bias in making it more difficult to make fair deals like they do with other teams. Not only on management level but player level players get way up for leaf games way more than most.
League Leaf bias that’s what I call it
Yup just another bitter leaf fan.
29 Jun 2021 20:00:33
I think people and by people I mean leaf fans need to calm down.
Just look at Tampa through the early and mid 2010s they were a pretty good team like the leafs just couldn't get the job done. Eventually it got to the point where they were known as the chokers especially after the Columbus series's. Well consider this past Montreal series the Tampa Columbus series as the leafs are going to be so hungry to prove everyone wrong next year. We still have very good pieces. Matthews will most likely finish top 5 in goals and Marner will finish top 10 in points. We got a very good and underrated goalie in jack. That second line of Tavares and Nylander plus maybe Roberson is going to give a lot of teams trouble. Kerfoot is going to be gone which gives us some cap space to sign a new and improved third line center. So everyone take a deep breath.
1.) 30 Jun 2021 00:51:44
Tampa also didn't have a timer on them like Dubas does.
2.) 02 Jul 2021 02:15:33
Yzerman did and much like Dubas inherited a bunch of top picks in stamkos and hedman and until 2018 couldn’t win the big playoff round
He leaves and 1 full season later Tampa figured it out and it looks like back to back
Same will happen to Dubas
He will leave then leafs win once they find there version of kucherov.
14 Sep 2021 12:09:42
Ya I wasn’t sure that it would be enough to get it done bc I know Manson used to be good I don’t know how good he still is so I’ll try again but I like the idea of him on our team.
22 Jun 2021 16:33:34
Good ideas but I mean they already tried the physical veteran route I think there going to go more skilled based. A player that could work tho is Evander Kane or Boone Jennor guys like that.
20 Jun 2021 03:36:28
I don’t even know where to start. Ovechkin will never sign here I’ll just say that. The oilers won’t give up both players let alone one. Chars is way too old. And this team could very well be over the cap.
Looks like something from nhl 21.
08 Apr 2021 17:16:59
I think the trade is probably fair in value but I mean I’m not wanting hall on this team because he’s not a passer and he would probably play with Tavares and Willy. Good trade just not the right target. I would actually like ullmark so maybe do a 3 team trade where maybe we get ullmark and fologno?
29 Mar 2021 13:49:08
I think philly needs to retain. Maybe not 50% but some just so the cap works out. But other then that I really like this deal but not sure if philly wants to give this guy up for a late first, a third line center and an unproven prospect. But if philly does it then I think I would.
29 Jul 2021 13:59:24
Not a playoff team. That might be the dumbest thing I’ve heard all day and it’s not even 10 o clock in the morning. We have a very soild goalie tandem and an above average D core. Not to mention that we still have the core 4 of guys who are going to get us close to or even past 300 combined points. Plus Robertson could have a break out year and with so many guys we have a very good bottom 6. To say we’re not a playoff team because we’re missing one too six left winger is kinda a joke.
10 Oct 2020 21:58:06
Holl is really bad. He’s so overhyped at this point and.