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14 Jul 2022 17:46:01
So Rumour has it Dubas woke up in the middle of the night in a cold cold sweat at the thought of such a weak defense core in front of a fragile duo of goalies in net....realizing the Hawks are in a complete rebuilt much to the disbelief or Kane & Toews Dubas calls up his best buddy Kyle Davidson and inquires about another useless player to them for this rebuild and quickly makes the following trade:

Leafs get:
Seth Jones

Hawks get:
2 1st picks(23 & 24)

Dubas then quickly signs:
Sandin 3 @ 2mil (3 years takes us past all the core 4 for's salaries and we will be able to pay Sandin & Lilgren more)

and then Dubas adds more UFA players after he has dumped Muzzin to the kigs and Kerfoot to Yotes for next to nothing and signs the following guys:

Strome 4 @ 3.5mil
Engvall 2 @ 1.5
Milano 2 @ 2mil
Aston-Reese 2 @ 2mil
Steel @ 1mil

seeing all the fun changes P.K. Subban calls Kyle up and offers to be his 7th D for 1 mil for 1 year....He also tells Kyle that on days he is not dressed he can use his great public relations skills and work the hot dog stand to help sell those $15.00 hot dogs...Dubas accepts.

Line up is as follows:






Healthy scratch:


1.) 14 Jul 2022 19:36:32
Excellent imitation of Kennedy.
But some interesting things I might add.

2.) 14 Jul 2022 20:38:07
@Rsears thanks. i think we all need to channel our indder Kennedy from time to time. i dunno if the signings are accurate or if the Hawks would accept that deal. but it sure makes for an interesting team with good depth on all lines. Dubas likes the big expensive contracts, . and with Sandin and Liljegren on smaller deals they might be ready for a raise to what Muzzin and Brodie are making and they will be gone by then and we will still have Rielly and Jones.

I for one would try to do it. no point in Hawks keeping Jones at 27 if they are re-building.

3.) 14 Jul 2022 21:10:09
You lost me at Seth Jones. I want 50% retention and then to pay for someone to take him on for 8 years.

4.) 14 Jul 2022 21:36:20

5.) 15 Jul 2022 03:59:06
dunno what happened to my comment to Leafslife but it was supposed to read me handing him a map so he could find where he got lost. and being sorry that he got lost after Seth Jones.

6.) 15 Jul 2022 04:06:40
@Loxley lmao. Whenever I see Seth Jones I do get a bit lost, in fairness.



22 May 2022 19:12:06
So here are some moves for some different players that don't get mentioned,trying to change it up a little...i think they could help our 2 & 3 lines add grit and tenacity..as always may need to add to some of these trades,this is just general base of the deals.

To Leafs:
Bailey (1.5M retained)reunites with JT for chemistry
Beauvillier grit and tenacity to lineup

To Leafs:
Crouse adds more grit and toughness and can score

To Coyotes:
Robertson(skilled but to small and injury prone)
Mrazek (coyotes need a goalie)

To Leafs:
Myers(550,000 retained)

to Preds:

Leafs Sign:
Crouse @ 2.5 mil
Nic Paul @ $3.0 mil
Giordano @ 1.0 mil
Liljegren @ 1.5 mil
Sandin @ 1.5 mil
Campbell @ 5.0 mil (if he wants more try to acquire Binnington or Gibson with retention in deal)
Spezza @ 750,000


Clifford...Spezza...Simmonds(Clifford and Simmonds could be replaced by Marlie pieces,really don't want them back)




1.) 22 May 2022 20:53:22
@Loxley. All those players have been mentioned numerous times actually. Especially Crouse.

2.) 23 May 2022 01:14:28
@ RLF well Crouse maybe. haven't heard Beauvillier or Bailey in a while. but thanks for your input.

3.) 23 May 2022 03:11:06
I thought maybe you haven't been around for a while or something, that's all. Maybe we have a different opinion on how long a while is.

4.) 23 May 2022 04:06:35
Did I miss where Bailey and Beauvillier are coming in? I don't see a trade for them.

I ended up checking cap friendly, thought I was going insane and they're UFA's.

I'm assuming you just hit send without realizing, but it's hard to judge without knowing.

5.) 23 May 2022 18:53:13
@RLF. i am on here on a daily basis. and like i said. i get Crouse is one. my comments were mostly geared towards the Isles players. I have not seen or remember seeing their names in here as some are on a daily basis as some players names seem to get hot for some reason.

6.) 23 May 2022 18:55:59
@Leafslife. no you did not miss it. i did. i guess in my haste i forgot to send Nylander going the other way. have seen a lot of Isles posts revolving around Beauvillier and Bailey on cap friendly from islander fans. usually seperated but where they have 1 of the 2 i mention. Varlamov and the isles 1st round pick.

7.) 24 May 2022 04:23:40
I do like the idea of trying to obtain Crouse .
Physicality, skill, goals (20)
I’m fairly sure Kerfoot and Robertson would not do the trick though.
Have to sweeten the deal quite a bit.
Especially if you want the Coyotes to take Mrazek’s terrible, $3.8 x 2 year contract.



28 Feb 2022 18:53:51
So the latest has Dudas not wanting to part with prospects including Robertson, and also not wanting to spend the LTIR money for Muzzin(perhaps he is waiting to better determine his health condition) it sounds like there might not be very big moves till maybe closer to the trade deadline and Muzzin's health and time of return...and the team needing some changes here is one with Winnipeg that will help solve some of our problems and shake things up.

Leafs get:


Jets Get:

question is what would leafs have to add as far as picks to get this done....i think Copp addresses the grit part on the 2nd line better than Kerfoot,Holl gors to counter DeMelo's cap hit and for some reason that bg giant stanley seems to be in a lot of Jets trades...i think with his size it would be worth sending Dermott over this would give the Jets a cheaper 3rd pair D with Dermott and Holl and we get Demelo for 2nd pair D if Muzzin comes back and a young big D man in Stanley

Our 3rd line seems fine with Mikheyev,Kampf and Kase add in Robertson in the lineup and we could even tracde

Engvall to Kraken for Appleton for more grit on 4th line


1.) 28 Feb 2022 23:35:47
Certainly can’t see Winnipeg doing this!
DeMelo and Stanley are better than Dermot and Holl while Copp is as good as Kerfoot.

2.) 01 Mar 2022 00:26:58
@waterbufflo. i realize it would not be for just this. was looking for peoples opinions on what/ how picks would we have to include. a first and 2 seconds? that was my question. i saw one jets fan on cap friendly giving Stanley away for a 4th round pick. saw another deal involving Demelo for Holl and a second. and these were not cap friendly examples from Leafs point of view. they were from Jets perspective.

3.) 01 Mar 2022 03:40:10
Kyle Dubas would be a Dumbass if he allows Muzzin to return to the team for the remainder of the season or playoffs. The Leafs have played better without Jake Muzzin this year. The Leafs need to trade for 4 players that bring size and physicality to the team. Two on defence and two forwards plus look into getting a quality goalie.

4.) 01 Mar 2022 13:56:00
@NylanderMagic i agree. needs to start playing by the rules that other GM's use and leave guys on LTIR. i'm hoping that he is just waiting to closer to deadline to take advantage of that so it does not appear that he is doing just that. Muzzin has struggled this year dunno if it is health issues or what but for the last 2 playoffs he's gotten hurt. let him rest up.



25 Feb 2022 01:00:06
So i don't usually like these multiple trade suggestions but i feel like we are lacking at so many positions i felt like why not....some might not be a man as it will cost us all of our 1st and 2nd round picks till 2024....but hey...Dubas likes drafting in the later rounds anyway...

1.Engvall has been ok.....but i think Appleton adds more of that playoff tenacity we need for the playoffs

Appleton, Mason

Engvall, Pierre
2023 6th round pick (TOR)

2.Graves is that gritty RD on the 2nd pair D we need.Holl goes back to offset cap and gave up two 2nd round picks as Jersey would probably have wanted a 1st round pick

Graves, Ryan

Holl, Justin
2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
2023 2nd round pick (TOR)

3.Jack was great at the begining of the season but has cooled off quite a bit....Mrazek has not impressed much....Bring in experienced goalie,1st round pick is mostly for cap retention at 50%

Fleury, Marc-André ($3,500,000 retained)

Mrázek, Petr
2022 1st round pick (TOR)

4.This is the big one....I think JT Miller will cost too much,heard they want Niemela...he's a great RD prospect...so figured we could get the same kinds grit from Crouse(Bunting 2.0) that JT Miller would give but not as expensive,also cap hit won't affect us as bad next year..Costs us two 1st rounds and Robertson but we get that offense D to pair with Graves for 2nd pair D

Chychrun, Jakob
Crouse, Lawson

Kerfoot, Alexander
Dermott, Travis
Liljegren, Timothy
Robertson, Nicholas
2023 1st round pick (TOR)
2024 1st round pick (TOR)

5. This is just for all those Domi fans...replaces Kerfoot on 2nd line....more grit a 2nd and Ilya should cover this

Domi, Max(50% Retained)

Mikheyev, Ilya
2024 2nd round pick (TOR)

lines as follows:21 man roster leaves us with $3.2 to get depth Dmen





1.) 25 Feb 2022 16:03:10
1st trade. seems fair.
2nd trade. NJD got Graves for a 2nd and a fringe 4th liner basically because Colorado needed to move the contract which NJ got him at a bit of a discount imo. You are giving an extra second, but they have to take Holl and his $2M contract. I am not sure Jersey has any interest to move Graves and get picks. I think they will want a player to improve them now if they trade him.
3rd trade may interest the Hawks.
4th trade would have to get the rebuilding Coyotes attention. That would be a good haul for them.
5th trade. No desire for Domi, so I have no other comment.

2.) 25 Feb 2022 20:19:43
@RLF. i mean who knows what teams are willing to move on from what players. I know Jersey did not give up as much for Graves as i am, if they take less great, but i was thinking they have to take Holl back and the extra 2nd might tempt them enough to make that trade. maybe instead of the pick another prospect is sent

Hawks trade is purely for those who are a little worried about the goaltending being shaky, although Mrazek did get the win last night has lots to prove, and Soup has come back down to earth

Domi trade was just to show we can get more grit in 2 players as opposed to going all in for Miller. maybe instead of Domi we go after that one guy you like from Devils. his name escapes me.

3.) 25 Feb 2022 21:20:10
@Loxley. I wasn't criticizing. I was just sharing my thoughts. Point on Graves was I think NJ might want more.

4.) 26 Feb 2022 01:04:11
@RLF. did not think you were criticizing me. was quite surprised that with 5 trades my suggestions did not get picked art more. other than the fact that you don't like Domi. some do. some don't my point was someone of lesser value than JT Miller could be had and split the talent more on more lines instead of putting all our eggs in 1 guy. if we don't do the Domi deal we could always add Mikheyev into that Jersey deal. again they may not want to trade him and i get that. but that is what is great here is it's all fantasy. package going over might be fair value but we don't know what the other tema would really do.



02 Dec 2021 04:26:02
I think our top to lines are finally playing well together...Bunting seems to be adjusting his game to how to play with Matthews and Marner and kerfoot looks fine on the Taveres line....time to work on the bottom six so that there is less roster changes.

To Leafs:

To Kraken:
1st rd pick 2022

Appleton is a hard working player and would be great on 3rd line...maybe even bumped up to second next year if we have to clear Kerfoot...Lauzon becomes cheaper version to rotate with Sundin and Liljegren on the bottom pairing and both Sundin and Liljegren might tire with all the hockey....added a first cause i read somewhere Seatle was thinking of sending Appleton to Bruins for Debrusk...if need be add either Engvall or Mikheyev and then we can get Ho-Sang up later if he keeps playing well


1.) 02 Dec 2021 14:02:18
I would be surprised if it cost that much to get Appleton and Lauzon. Like the idea though of those two players though.
To me, Kerfoot should get you both players. He was on their radar, is having a very good season and is signed for another year. Both Appleton and Lauzon need new deals.

2.) 02 Dec 2021 15:59:49
@RLF thanks. Kerfoot might. i did capfriendly after and Mikheyev might put us over the cap. so maybe include him and down grade the 1st i put in. as i usually over give seeing as we are pursuing the players. You are correct both will need new deals but figure Appleton might get what Kase makes who i dunno if we will be able to sign him to what he has and Lauzon should not cost that much either. i know a lot of people love to include Kerfoot but they are playing so well together right now. and honestly after seeing what he did in that one game where he could have cashed in on the empty net but instead passed to Nylander who can score at will tells ya something about the player. good team guy. he does not score often yet still chose to dish it to Willy. Kerfoot may have to go next next along with Mrazek.

3.) 02 Dec 2021 17:03:17
Kerfoot has been playing very well on the second line. Hard to argue that. I have him in proposals because I don't think we can keep him past this season. You may get Appleton and Lauzon to sign combined for less than what Kerfoot's cap hit is. I think that is the type of deal the Leafs will have to make.

4.) 02 Dec 2021 18:17:29
@RLF. i agree. definately a deal like this they have to make. tired of seeing these KHL huys come in and get shipped out or guys from the marlies that are not ready/ unproven like Robertson. i get he has skill but he is small and seems injury prone. we need guys that can stay in bottom 6.Bunting is an example now who is finally adjusting his game to Matthews and marner. is Appleton can do the same on the LW on 2nd line that would be awesome. leave the offense to JT and WIlly. just get him to work at getting the puck. worst case is he is a good cheap NHL player for 3rd line once we sign him next season.

5.) 03 Dec 2021 04:31:38
Robertson and Dermot are better than Appleton and Larson.
Appleton is not having the kind of year with the Kraken that he had last year with the Jets.
Larson is physical but not a great skater.
Why would the Leafs add any draft pick let alone a 1st round pick?
I can’t make sense of this suggestion.

6.) 03 Dec 2021 14:38:42
@waterbuffalo. maybe you can't make any sense of it cause you think i am trying to get Larson. i suggested Lauzon. so i am sure that is why you are confused. Appleton played great with Jets. have not followed the Kraken much but who is having a good season there on an expansion team. but him on a good team and i bet he bounces back. plus he was hurt for a while and just came back so that might be a factor. now my wanting Lauzon is cause he is 24,and cheaper than having Dermott as part of 3 man rotation on bottom pair D, might be able to keep Sundin and Liljegren in lineup more to find out what they can handle. the 1st is cause i am not sure what Kraken value those 2 players at so i tend to over pay. but then guys like you say i overpay. if i don't add it i am told it's not enough. if it is not needed then great.




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13 Jul 2022 01:38:35
Ok...so finally getting over the shock that Murray is our new goalie....so time to post what I would to see but realize it's a lot and probly won't....To do what i wanna do i have moved out to places unknown for who knows what the following players:

sign the following UFA players:
Strome @ 3.5mil
Kubalik @ 2mil
Aston-Reese @ 2Mil
Milano @ 2.5mil
Lyubushkin @ 1.5mil
Meloche @ 1mil
Samsonov @ 2.5mil
Sandin @ 2mil

lines look like this:




I think this lineup looks really good....dunno if we can sign all these guys for that cap hit or even jetesson out the guys i mentioned earlier but this is a team i would like to see...almost brand new bottom 6....Kubalik had success with Kampf before...maybe they can rekindle that magic and Aston-Reese is pure shutdown guy but you also have Milano for offense....


1.) 13 Jul 2022 04:04:12
That defence though.

It would probably be Sandin-Brodie
With Rielly-Boosh, but man is that a downgrade in your own end from Muzzin.

I liked the Gio signing, but I don't entirely understand it right now. Sandin can't sit and wait for another two years, he doesn't need more AHL time. I understand why everyone wants to move on from Muzzin, just not sure it's better than last year.

2.) 13 Jul 2022 11:44:01
Yes to moving out Muzzin, Kerfoot and Holl.

Definitely yes to pairing Brodie and Sandin. Can’t have two offence oriented D men together in Reilly and Sandin.

I agree that Sandin needs to feel he is in the top 6 and I think he should be given every opportunity this year.

I would try to sign Strome but not Kubalik because he does not come to play each night. He makes more than $2m now so that number is too low even if he was non-qualified.

All other signings I like except Meloche who I haven’t seen much of.

3.) 13 Jul 2022 12:43:04
I'd stay away from Milano. Basically he is a less talented Nylander.
I agree with LL, that D will get ate up in the post season.



19 Mar 2022 22:31:15
6'5....210lbs...RD....How does Phillipe Myers get placed on waivers when Dubas is looking for D help....Could he not have offered up Dermott or maybe Duszak?





03 Dec 2021 20:32:13
Just looking for everyone's thoughts on Holl always being in the rumors as far as being traded due to the fact both Mikheyev and Mrazek are coming back sooner rather than later from ltir.....Why does it have to be him....i know he is nt the best but will it not be hard to find depth D for much cheaper....we can't afford anyone right now making more than him....and i dunno about anyone else but if Mikheyev is the only cap that will cause trouble why would he not be the subject of having to be moved...or Engvall for that matter...they are both mediocre players and both probly won't be back next year....team is rolling great right now....why not just cut bait....he really has not done much


1.) 03 Dec 2021 23:34:52
LW isn't deep in itself. It's pretty weak all things considered. Probably want to keep some kind of depth.

Holl isn't a bad player, he is just replaceable with Dermott or Liljigren in most situations.

2.) 04 Dec 2021 17:34:59
I have no desire to move Holl. Engvall? Yes, especially if we can acquire a young cost effective player that has potential to take his spot. The Isle have lost 9 in a row. Would the Isle be willing to trade Koivula for Engvall? Could be that cheap, young big guy that compliments talented players well.

3.) 05 Dec 2021 10:23:30
He’s been mentioned because he one that has the biggest cap hit and would actually fetch a so so return.

4.) 05 Dec 2021 15:36:42
@L1994. Yea, I get that. I just don't think we have the depth at D to move him unless we are getting a D back that is reliable and at a better cap hit, which would be tough.



30 Aug 2020 17:59:09
So this is not a trade scenario more of a what do you guys think it would take one...Seeing as the Leafs have the 15OA pick i was wondering what and who you guys think the Leafs would have to give up to acquire another 1st round pick, i am thinking the following teams might be the best targets to try to do this with the Devils,Sabres,Wild & Preds. I know we have to address defense and grit this year but for some reason can't keep thinking how great it would be to be able to draft both Braden Schneider and Askarov. Can it be done assuming they are both still available at whatever picks we would have.


1.) 30 Aug 2020 19:46:16
Askarov is looking like a Stud goalie but man do I hate drafting goalies that high lol. They are so hard to predict sometimes.

If your looking for picks that high it's definitely possibly but your looking at trading Nylander/ Marner. Won't get picks that high for our rentals and bottom 6 players.

2.) 01 Sep 2020 21:49:00
If Askarov is still available at 15th, do we draft him or Schneider?

I say go with the RHD. It's a harder position to fill and more costly to trade for.



10 Jun 2020 15:52:49
Not a trade proposal here but wondering what people think it would take to get Ryan Pullock from the Islanders?if we won't be able to sign Rielly and seem to have much more depth on left side maybe we should try to focus on right side


1.) 10 Jun 2020 17:20:10
Pulock is a good player. He would be a smart choice to pursue. And Islanders have lots of good RHD, with a few good prospects coming up as well. I could see one of them being available. I like Toews too. He really has turned into quite the good defenseman. Too bad he is LHD.

Islanders, especially since Trotz took over, are a defense powerhouse. Those guys all know how to work hard and play good defense. I would gladly swap virtually our entire defense for theirs.

2.) 11 Jun 2020 00:05:03
Man will pulock be confused when he's told not to play D lol.

3.) 11 Jun 2020 21:40:41
I like Pulock because he brings good size and he actually hits. Leafs are the safest team to play against if you're small or don't want to get hit. They shown repeatedly that they wilt when a "heavy" team plays a hard-forechecking game. Florida ran them out of the rink in 12 minutes. Carolina played that way in front of a zamboni driving emergency goalie and humiliated them. Boston eliminated them three times in the playoffs and I assume Columbus is going to play the same.

Clifford is the only guy in the team willing to bust a knuckle and he won't be back next year. If we lose to Columbus I almost feel like Dubas should at least be demoted to co-GM again. Bring in someone to provide "assistance and guidance", which really means make all the real decisions and let Dubas be happy he still has a job.

4.) 11 Jun 2020 22:32:49
You know who I would love to see step up physically? The goat. Even if he doesn't fight he grinds like a champ in his own end. If he could throw some body around at his size he could really be an asset.

5.) 12 Jun 2020 02:36:07
Perfect example of a guy we developed wrong. He never had any skill. They knew it when they drafted him. So why did they develop him like a skilled player. They should have developed him for a checking line position. If he scores two less goals a year, so what. He might prevent more. It's not like he's a scoring my Hons anyway. Taking away from his "offense" to make him more sound and physical Al presence in his own end makes a lot more sense to me. I stead they told him it's ok to be a pussy. Now he's the biggest coward on the team. Literally and figuratively.

6.) 12 Jun 2020 04:21:46
Agree completely LGM. I'm not sure how it happened under Babs though. Babs is an old school guy. I have to believe he was begging for the goat to be a true 4C.

7.) 12 Jun 2020 22:39:32
I think we all just default to the goat when making our fantasy lineups Because well he’s always been there
I know I am guilty of that
I would rather resign Spezza.

8.) 14 Jun 2020 04:40:43
I still have Gauthier as my fourth line centre for now. I tend to out Spezza third line centre and move Kerfoot to wing recently because of injuries, but next year the lineup will have Kerfoot starting at 3C full time again I'm sure.




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06 Sep 2022 21:03:39
@RLF. i agree on Matthews. if he does decide to leave the Leafs he could pull a Johnny Gaudreau and go some place like the Kings or another western team that won't have the cap issues that Arizona has. he could opt for a city close to home.




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06 Aug 2022 05:25:25
@Leafslife. only way i want Sandin on 2nd pair is if he has Larson or some other veteran on his right side. it's put up or shut up time and Leafs don't have the cap space to get anyone else. Liljegren played well paired with Gio so i leave them together. if you don't have faith in Sandin then maybe he should be traded.

@Rsears. I have seen Bellows a few times and i honestly don't get the hype. Leafs fans seem to love Islander players past and present. my reasoning for Milano is he would fit under cap with Kerfoot gone and is a pretty good playmaker that might help JT.




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05 Aug 2022 21:09:52
i agree with LL. only way to appease Sandin is to slot him in on 2nd pairing Left side. sign him to a 3 year deal so that by the time it expires Brodie is off the books. Still think best move is to try to swap Muzzin for Larson in Seattle. he could bring same kinda stuff as Muzzin only on the right side. and if Dubas could find himself to get rid o f Kerfoot and Holl he could sign Milano for 2nd line and Aston-Reese for 4th line. i'd be happy with those last few moves. all that to say. i think Dubas is loyal/ stuborn when it comes to his guys and he is not tough enough to go to Muzzin and say either wave to Seattle or we put you on waivers and yo go somewehere you really don't wanna go to.




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04 Aug 2022 16:41:19
Cap issue is still a problem in this deal.




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29 Jul 2022 23:34:50
@Rsears they might have the cap now. but all i hear is how the have cap issues (who doesn't) don't forget they have those albatros buyouts in Parise and Suter. they have to watch their pennies for a few years.





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