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09 Nov 2023 03:32:35
What do we even do about Klingberg? Are any teams even gonna want him?

Maybe San Jose takes him because their defence is already abysmal so he can't possibly make it worse right lol.

Tor:
Klingberg

SJ:
Bag of pucks

Tor:
Niemela, Steeves, 1st 2024

Clg:
Hanafin, Duehr

Knies-34-16
Bertuzzi-91-88
Robertson-Domi-Jarnkrok
Gregor-Kampf-Duehr
*Reaves

Rielly-Brodie
Hanafin-Liljgren
McCabe-Timmons
*Lagesson

themostleaf33

1.) 09 Nov 2023 17:26:59
Didn’t know everyone’s jersey #? Lmao.


2.) 10 Nov 2023 02:55:39
I don’t think Niemala and a mid to late 1st round pick with Steeves thrown in will get the Leafs Hanifin.
It would probably take adding Minten or at the very least Robertson to get a deal done.
There is also the fact that Leafs would be doing just as Dubas did each year, giving up top prospects and 1st round picks for expiring contracts.
Hanifin is from the US and as a free agent next summer has the choice of which US city he would prefer to live in for the next 8 years.
There is also the factor that Hanifin is from Massachusetts (thinking Boston) that might be a major draw.
I would not want to see the Leafs giving up more top assets for expiring contracts unless an extension is part of the deal.
Keeping in mind that Hanifin’s extension will likely come on the vicinity of Toews extension with Colorado and Nylander absorbing $9.75 - $10 it would be difficult for the Leafs to ice even a 21 man roster.


 

 

25 Jul 2022 17:13:36
Tor:
Holl

Nsh:
Future considerations

I think Nashville will regret that Lauzon signing quickly, and they have about 8 mill in cap space so that's more then enough to trade for Holl and sign Fabbro.

Tor:
Kerfoot

Clg:
Monahan (LTIR), 3rd round pick 2024

Calgary currently has 9 forwards signed on capfriendly with about 10 million in cap space. They do have Mangiapane left to be signed, but he obviously won't take up a lot. If they miss out on Kadri, perhaps Kerfoot is a good 2nd option. He comes with no risk on a one year deal, and allows for them to continue to focus on Huberdeau and Weegar extensions.

The Leafs would probably have to assess the Monahan situation first to make sure he's going to remain on their LTIR for the entire year, but it would allow Dubas to circumvent the cap a little bit once again. Just seems like a good fit to me.

themostleaf33

1.) 26 Jul 2022 13:36:31
Don't think Nash would have any real interest in Holl.

Monahans LTIR also allows Calgary to go over the cap. They lost Tkachuk and Gaudreau, but gained Huberdeau and Weegar. They have $9M to sign Mangiapanne and Kylington. That extra $6.4M could allow them to add as well. Not sure they want to trade it if Monahan isn't coming back.


2.) 27 Jul 2022 00:32:11
“Mangiapane obviously won’t take a lot? ”

Really?
He scored 35 goals last year.
That’s $5+ a year minimum!


 

 

10 Jul 2022 12:12:52
Tor:
Kerfoot, Holl, Robertson, 1st 2023, 2nd 2024

Van:
Miller, Schenn

Sign:
Campbell 4x 4.5
Engvall 3x 1.75
Gagne 1x 750k
White 1x 1.5 (yes I know he plays C but maybe a move to the wing could spark his offence)

Knies is the Leafs trade deadline add.

Starting Roster:

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Miller-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Kampf-White
Gagne-Abruzzee-Anderson
*Clifford, Simmonds

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Sandin
Gio-Lilly
*Schenn

Campbell
Woll/Kallgren

themostleaf33

1.) 11 Jul 2022 01:10:42
Miller is going to walk next summer if the Leafs don’t resign him for $8 - $9 for 6 - 7 years.
The Last thing Leafs need is an over 30 year old making $8 - $9 million until he is 36 or 37 years of age.


 

 

04 Jun 2022 22:02:44
Tor:
Nylander
Holl
1st 2023
Robertson

Chi:
Kane (50% retained)
Strome (RFA rights)

Also wanted to point out that Arizona and Buffalo are on Mrazeks 10 team no trade list so I think the Leafs will have to buy him out.

themostleaf33

1.) 04 Jun 2022 23:43:48
Buying him out doesn't really do anything.

That is a monstrous overpay.


2.) 05 Jun 2022 00:50:18
Nylander (26), a 1st and Robertson (20) one of the few Leafs prospects with potential for a 33 year old Kane seems like a huge overpay.


3.) 05 Jun 2022 15:00:12
I don’t think it could be one for one, especially with retention on Kane, but in order to get him you would probably have to make an offer like this to beat out anyone else who he might be comfortable going to.


 

 

21 May 2022 15:47:32
Tor:
Kerfoot
Nylander
Niemela

Van:
Miller
Garland

Money works
Both teams give up a player on an expiring deal and both get a player with some term
Leafs give up a good young defenceman to entice Vancouver because of their terrible blue line.

Tor:
Mrazek, 2nd 2023
Ari:
Future considerations

Arizona currently has only one goalie under contract next year and have 7 pending UFAs so they will need to hit the cap floor. Don't think a lot of players will want to sign there. Maybe the Leafs can unload Mrazek to them along with a 2nd round pick if they are lucky.

Leafs re-sign Kase, Spezza, Lybushkin, Campbell

Use remaining money to sign Holtby or another decent backup

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Miller-Tavares-Garland
Robertson-Kampf-Kase
Abruzzee-Spezza-Anderson
*Simmonds, Clifford

Reilly-Brodie/Lybushkin
Muzzin-Liljgren
Sandin-Brodie/Lybushkin
*Holl

Campbell
Holtby

themostleaf33

1.) 21 May 2022 16:27:06
Meant 2nd 2024 btw typo there.


2.) 21 May 2022 21:12:36
Would I ever do this. I'm a big fan of garland and Miller (in a contract year) should be a monster.


3.) 23 May 2022 00:24:11
Hate it say it boys, probably not willy leaving, it'll be the John tavares.


 

 

 

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14 Oct 2020 04:24:17
Trade:
Holl, Kerfoot, Engvall, Marincin anywhere for picks

Sign:
Mikheyev 1 x 1.75
Dermott 2 x 1.5
Anderson 1 x 800K
Soderberg 1 x 1.5

Soderberg is a big veteran body, can play a great two way game, and will likely come at a bargain due to age and the current situation of the NHL. I really think he is someone the leafs should consider if they need to trade Kerfoot (along with other assets) for cap space.

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25 Aug 2020 19:49:05
Okay so I'm assuming the leafs will just let Rodrigues walk as a UFA. It doesn't make sense to qualify him because you already have like 10 other players who can play in that role and it makes no sense to give him 2 million when you could give someone else league minimum lol.

themostleaf33

1.) 25 Aug 2020 22:14:33
Then why trade for him? Pittsburgh has the same option of just walking away.


2.) 26 Aug 2020 00:03:18
Yeah it's an odd situation. Dubas loved Ceci apparently though and we all expected him to walk so who knows?


3.) 26 Aug 2020 01:00:15
Dubas must have some "insider" stats that aren't available to the public. Probably the same ones he has that tells him Ceci is a good defenseman.


4.) 26 Aug 2020 16:28:34
As I have said many times. Most of the advanced stats read 50 different ways. Tanner is still putting out articles saying Tyson Barrie should be resigned and citing "analytics".

Advanced stats make a lot of sense to me. As a Gm they can be a very powerful tool but like in all life, there are things that can't be measured statistically. Without Hyman that Tavares+Marner line was a joke. Looking at the advanced stats Tavares should have still dragged Marner along. Looking at Marner paycheque he should have still scored 100 points. But we all know Hyman has an intangible that is needed. Hard to judge these things sometimes.

I don't fault Dubas for trying new things as long as he learns from it and moves away from certain aspects.


5.) 26 Aug 2020 20:29:56
Hokeyloser
Maybe the trade was made to take back an existing contract?
One thing I do know is dubas is a lot smarter than you


6.) 27 Aug 2020 12:05:45
Pittsburgh is not at 50 contracts yet. And Rodrigues is RFA, so doesn't have a contract yet either.


 

 

22 Aug 2020 05:01:26
Okay so I just want to do this because I'm bored and I can't sleep lol. Just wanna break down the top prospects and roster players in trade categories.

1. Will not be moved
-Matthews
-Tavares
-Marner
-Reilly
-Muzzin
-Lehtonen
-Sandin
-Barbanov
-Robertson
-Campbell

I know there have been rumours of a massive trade this offseason involving Sandin or Marner or Robertson, but we all know Dubas is not trading any of those guys. It's fun to speculate about it but in reality all these players will be with the organization next year.

2. Could be moved, but more likely they remain in the organization
-Nylander
-Andersen
-Liljgren

I still don't think the leafs will move Andersen or Nylander, even though everyone knows that's probably what we need to do. However I just don't think Dubas has the balls to do it. But he proved me wrong with the Kadri trade so I guess it's possible.
Liljgren is still young and I'm not sure why everyone is calling him a letdown or bust. I understand that he may not have developed as fast as we hoped, but honestly look how long it took Makar to enter the NHL. Look how long it took DeAngelo. Defenceman take longer to develope, it's nothing new. It also sounds like the leafs feel he is very close to NHL ready. I just don't see him being lived with their lack of depth on the right side.

3. Decent chance they could be moved
-Kapanen
-Holl
-Engvall
-Kerfoot
-Mikheyev
-Dermott

I think all of these kind of speak for themselves so I won't go into too much detail but basically all these guys have at least some value and could fetch something the leafs could use in a trade.

4. Almost a certainty they will be moved
-Johnsson

I mean I think we all sense that this is coming. I think leafs nation would be more shocked if he isn't moved then if he is lol.

I only really included guys with at least some trade value, so if your curious why Marincin or Gauthier or Bracco aren't up here, that's why.

Agree? Disagree? Did I miss anyone I should probably add?

themostleaf33

1.) 22 Aug 2020 07:14:52
I don't see Nylander being moved. If he is Dubas admits he failed. That won't happen just yet.

Agree on most though. Liljigren will be moved in the right package if need be along with the rest other than Mikheyev. Don't see him going anywhere.

Not so sure Johnson is moved either. He had one good year beside a world class centre. Will GM's bite on that or ask for Kapanen?


2.) 23 Aug 2020 16:53:28
Thoughtful post mostleaf. And I think that sort of speaks to why blockbuster trades are so rare.

You could take any other NHL roster and break it down just like that: what you find is the players the other teams wouldn't want to move are exactly the same players you'd want to target in a trade.


 

 

21 Aug 2020 16:50:20
So apparently there are rumours that Buffalo may not qualify Montour. If this is true, the leafs can easily find a young, cheap, and controllable defenceman to play beside Muzzin. This is what separates him from guys like Larsson, Manson, and Brodie. While all those players are in the back half of their careers, Montour is only 25 and still in his prime. He probably would have put up similar or at least close numbers to Brodie had he played a full season, and he is easily better then Larsson and Manson, like it isn't even close.

Montour had 18 points in 54 games and was +13 on a rebuilding team. On a better team I think he could easily increase those numbers. I know he may not be the top pairing guy we need, but I think you could easily put him beside Muzzin. He is definitely an upgrade over Holl imo.

I think the only area of concern for me is his corsi and femwick stats this year. He was just above 45% in each, but I mean that is playing for a bad team in Buffalo. However, in his 2018-19 season, those same advanced stats were almost close to 55% on basically the same Buffalo team. I think a good partner in Muzzin can easily get him back to those numbers.

We should sign him to a one year deal at around 3-3.5 mill. Worst case scenario he ends up on the 3rd pair with Sandin and Lehtone jumps up to play with Muzzin. Best case he becomes a great top 4 option for us over the next 7 or 8 years.

Reilly-?
Muzzin-Montour
Sandin-Lehtonen
*Liljgren

Dermott, Holl, Kapanen, Kerfoot and Johnsson can all be used as trade chips to find a new defenceman for Reilly. Heck they could even just trade them all (maybe not Kapanen) for picks/prospects and cap space and also sign Brodie.

I was shocked when Duclair wasn't qualified by Arizona, and there are usually shocks when it comes to this stuff. It will be very interesting to see what RFA's are not qualified by their teams.

themostleaf33

1.) 22 Aug 2020 01:52:08
If Montour isn't qualified I would give him a shot. I wouldn't pay much for him but for free why not give the guy a chance? Just depends on the ask.


2.) 22 Aug 2020 02:36:44
I mean I’m assuming it wouldn’t be over 3.5 which is fine.


3.) 22 Aug 2020 04:51:58
If it's somewhere around 3 I don't really think you get better. We all hate on Barrie (myself more than anyone) but he played like a 2.75 player. I'm sure Montour is at least better than Ceci or Barrie so I'm fine with him getting 3.5.


4.) 25 Aug 2020 13:47:43
Lol hokeyloser
The 2 games they lost to colombus he could have had a 997 save percentage and still would have been crucified by all the experts like you for being a flawed goalie . Because the leafs couldn’t muster one goal

Ok keep digging for more hokeyloser logic

I guess Bennington and Price are sloths as well


 

 

08 Aug 2020 03:27:01
I can't believe that just happened omg.

themostleaf33

1.) 08 Aug 2020 06:46:49
Absolute madness to end the game, Merzlikins just fell apart after the first goal.

I loved Keefe's line-blender in OT too, I think that kept CBJ fairly off-balance. Hyman-Nylander-Kapanen was a super interesting line to see out there, they were ferocious on the forecheck and really gave Willy some space to coast around as he does best

Matthews-JT-Marner
Robertson-Kerfoot-Mikheyev
Hyman-Nylander-Kapanen

Total blender-job and it really kept the team in it, I hope Keefe keeps going with creative line changeups.


2.) 09 Aug 2020 02:43:51
I don't think anyone has mentioned Spezza either. I have never even seen the guy fight. To get a 37yo guy that's never been a fighter get into it is exactly what the team needs more of.

That line was amazing. Would love to see those lines again tomorrow.


 

 

 

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02 Sep 2023 19:32:28
Bruh wtf is this troll post.

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02 Sep 2023 15:09:13
This ain’t NHL 23.

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28 Jun 2023 06:58:44
Cap = non existent.

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28 Jun 2023 06:57:38
I was thinking something similar like Nylander and Liljgren for Necas and Pesce.

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07 Aug 2022 14:28:35
This is a no.

Nylander > Dumba + Greenway so it’s a massive overpay.

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11 Oct 2020 06:03:39
The leafs offence up front doesn't need anymore adds imo UNLESS the leafs don't think Robertson is ready. Then they add another middle six winger. I would hope for Duclair.

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10 Oct 2020 04:51:02
Good solid d core now. Maybe could use an upgrade beside Muzzin, not sure why Dubas was so keen on keeping Holl but I mean I guess the leafs have a ton of depth now as well. Maybe Lehtonen could even step into a top 4 role who knows. He is lighting it up in the KHL right now so it is definitely possible.

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09 Sep 2020 03:35:55
Manson’s career high in points is 37. Other then that one year, he has been below 20. It’s not one bad season, it’s one good season and the rest are bad seasons.

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05 Sep 2020 23:04:25
Tony DeAngelo?

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26 Aug 2020 05:16:44
Okay colt so are the blue trading Sanford with Steen or Kyrou with Bozak?

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