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12 Jul 2022 01:04:16
*BREAKING* Matt Murray to Toronto with a 3rd Rounder next year and a 7th round pick in 2024 for Future Considerations. I wonder is he hurt or what cause they gave up some for ??????? so far
1.) 12 Jul 2022 01:16:10
The future consideration better be another team eating more of that contract. Murray is a backup at best right now.
So Dubas moves on from his mistake in Mrazek to gamble on a higher priced one in Murray. Not sure how this guy keeps his job if no other team is eating more of that contract.
2.) 12 Jul 2022 01:30:21
@RLF not just Dubas, why is Shanahan still president at this point?
Why not just sign Soup for 5/ ye if you were going with Murray for close to the same?
Well played by Ottawa. That's an unreal way to unload that contract for a 3rd and a 7th.
3.) 12 Jul 2022 01:32:34
Don’t like it… can only hope he bounces back.
4.) 12 Jul 2022 02:02:03
@LL. True enough. How they can make such a good move like the Mrazek or Ritchie deals just to make the same mistakes again, I am speechless.
5.) 12 Jul 2022 02:16:07
After all the talk going around today, I was expecting no more than a $3.125 cap hit.
@LL I don't know if signing Campbell would have been better at 5 years term. He really hasn't done anything to justify that contract and term. So in this case I'm okay with 2 years of Murray, just still in shock with AAV after everything I read today.
@RLF future considerations can mean another team eating more off that cap? I did not know this. I hope this is the case then.
Anyways, all we can do at this time is support our team and hope that Murray finds some of that old magic. I mean we haven't won a game 7 since? At least we have a SC champion. Looking at the positives.
6.) 12 Jul 2022 02:37:25
@Tags I wasn't really a fan of 5 years of Soul at his age either, but I'm happier with a 5x5 for Soup than a 2x4.7 for Murray.
7.) 12 Jul 2022 03:23:16
@Tagz. I don't think the future can be retention, but I am not sure. It was more a sarcastic take on how bad this deal looks. Now we have just over $5M left to sign Sandin, Engvall, a backup, 4th line centre at minimum to be anywhere close to as good as last year.
8.) 12 Jul 2022 03:33:07
@RLF I'm not even sure who replaces Mikheyev in this situation.
Sandin probably wants a top 6 role and around 1.5-2 million on a bridge, Engvall can easily ask for 2+ that leaves Dubas with 1 mil for a backup, a top 6 LW (Kerfoot doesn't exactly inspire me) and a backup.
I don't see a way out of this without moving Muzzin, Nylander or Marner.
9.) 12 Jul 2022 03:59:45
@RLF maybe this is the time for a Nylander trade to open up some more cap space.
10.) 12 Jul 2022 12:05:27
@Tagz. That is the most logical move and bring back a couple not as high profile NHL players and some cap space. Getting Blackwood, Zacha+ or something like Stolarz, Comtois+ (if the Ducks are even interested in him) .
I would do Stolarz, Comtois and 2 2nds for Willy. Use the extra $4M in cap space to get what else we need. I would feel better about Murray if a guy like Stolarz was there.
11.) 12 Jul 2022 13:46:22
Future considerations mean some other asset/ action in Ottawa’s favour.
How would another team get some benefit from a trade they were not involved in?
Toronto doesn’t need Ottawa’s permission to secure retention on Murray’s salary!
12.) 12 Jul 2022 14:05:55
So a lot is happening, very quickly.
In defence of Dubas, heaven forbid I go down this road, but I will.
No GM can predict the future with 100% clarity and often unpredicted and questionable moves happen because of new unforeseen events like the Fiala trade.
I’m sure Dubas tried hard since late June to resign Campbell (no I don’t have proof or insider knowledge, it just makes sense) but soon recognized he had botched it by not making it priority #1.
Consequently he lost any advantage he might have had. Following the draft he had only so much time to get an NHL goalie before free agency so he’s forced to do something he no doubt preferred not to do.
Was Gibson a better option? Not to me. What about Quick, not by my thinking.
But its done so now what are the options?
Well, for one we add to our strength which is goal scoring. We take a page from Edmonton of old and simply try to win every game 8-6.
Who cares about GAA, as long as we get a SV% slightly above .900 we will be fine.
Don’t give up Nylander’s offence, we will now need it more than ever.
Send Muzzin, Kerfoot, Holl and (dare I say it) TJ Brodie away and get busy in the free agent market.
No I don’t care who we get back. Get picks instead.
Sign Engvall, Sandin, Mikheyev, Lyubushkin, Dylan Strome, Andreas Atahanasiou, Sonny Milano and Buddy Robinson for his protection services (and replacement to Simmonds and Clifford) .
Lol, I’m done…for now!
13.) 12 Jul 2022 15:39:35
The future could have been the Leafs send a pick through Ottawa to another team for retention to conclude the deal.
Your 80's Edm plan and needing Nylander is the same thought Dubas seems to have had in the beginning and why we wasted our stars ELC years. Man I hope you were drinking when you posted this. lol.
14.) 12 Jul 2022 19:46:56
Interesting take on the future but not at all sure why Ottawa would broker that piece. Would/ should the Leafs not go directly to that team?
Don’t drink so was cold sober.
But it was just a thought based on where we are today!
I don’t like how Dubas handled it. Not at all!
I wrote a blog entry the other day saying it seemed the only good option left was to sign Campbell for 5 x $5m, more than I originally wanted but more reflective of the goalie market.
Still think, unless Murray does a 180, that we will have to win 8-6 so why not get the right horses!
20 Mar 2022 21:39:26
Mark G Coming home. Leafs deal X2 Seconds this years and nexts to Seattle plus a 3rd in 2024 for Gio and Colin Blackwell.
1.) 21 Mar 2022 03:00:57
Over the past 2 trade deadlines Dubas has trade 1 - 1st, 2 - 2nds, 1 - 3rd and 1 - 4th for 33 year old, UFA, Foligno and 38 year old, UFA Giordano.
NOT TOO BRIGHT IMHO!
2.) 21 Mar 2022 04:40:24
@WB what would you have prefered?
If Dubas did nothing, I wouldn't have hated it. I'm not sure if this team can go through FLA and Tampa just to see Carolina, Pitts or NYR before even the finals.
25 Dec 2021 03:30:15
Boston trade Zach Senyshyn to Toronto for a 3rd round pick. I think he's under rated and could be a cheap pick up for a former 1st rounder in the McDavid Sweepstakes
1.) 25 Dec 2021 09:00:46
Leafs trade chips are Holl Engvall and 2022 first round pick. Holl and Engvall have no future Toronto plus Leafs have 4 top prospects coming.
Leafs players arriving inside next 2 years
Robertson
Niemela
Hirvonen
Amirov.
04 Jun 2021 18:27:20
TIME FOR A BLOW UP
Toronto: Connor McDavid,4 1st rounders in 2023,2025,2027,2029 and Evan Bouchard
Edmonton: Matthews 4 1st rounders in 2022,2024,2026 and 2028 plus Morgan Reilly
L.A. Kings: Nick Robertson
Toronto: Quinton Byfield and Drew Doughty if we eat his contract
L.A. is rebuilding and so we swap prospects and take salary on from the Kings plus, Nick is from So Cal
so he'd be going home.
Vancouver: Mitch Marner 2nd round pick in 2022
Toronto: Olli Juolevi and Brock boeser
New York Rangers: John Tavares, Alex Kerfoot and a 3rd rounder in 2023
Toronto: Georgiev and a 1st round Pick in 2024
1.) 05 Jun 2021 04:46:14
So mcdavid and Bouchard for Matthews and rielly
The 4 1st by each team just cancel each other out
Edmonton says no as mcdavid has 5 years left while Matthews and rielly have 4 combined left. Bouchard is still in ELC so mcdavid and Bouchard are cheaper than Matthews and rielly
U want this deal to happen leafs would owe 4 1st to for Edmonton to listen
LA deal come on. Swap prospects, swap prospects. Robertson isn’t even close to what byfield is. LA is rebuilding. Byfield is their guy. Even taking doughty full price won’t make up this differance between prospects.
This was so bad
So marner and boeser get swapped. Here’s a question. Who does marner pass to and who passes to boeser. Both teams get worse
Last deal just think on this one. Johnny T leave new York yes the island not Brooklyn but still leaves New York to come home. Why would he waive his clause just 2 years later to go back to a New York team that isn’t even as good as the one he left.
What a night for proposals.
2.) 05 Jun 2021 07:53:04
I can't tell your intention. You want to blow it up you say but your not blowing it up lol.
5 years of the worlds best player or 3 of a top 3 player. Why on earth does Edmonton agree? I'll fix that one for you.
Tor Mathews+Rielly+2 1sts
Edm Neal+Mcdavid
That's the only way I see this getting done.
What's with the pick swaps year to year? They get 2 in one year then none the next year? Lol.
19 Mar 2021 16:24:34
Don;t know how this will play out or if we or S.J. would have to eat some cash which is tight but considering the rumblings and Rumours that are floating around.
TO TO
Devan Dubynk + Erik Carlson (Pardon the spelling lol)
To S.J.
Freddie Anderson + William Nylander
1.) 20 Mar 2021 12:28:48
Horrible trade
Dont need Karlsson
Dubnyk is average.
2.) 20 Mar 2021 12:55:56
Average is better than Andersen right now.
3.) 20 Mar 2021 13:14:02
Karlsson has become the worst contract in the NHL.
4.) 20 Mar 2021 15:24:25
Maybe his deal sucks but, all we heard last summer after the scalping by Columbus we need a Right handed shot D man. Plus, at least with Dubnyk at least he has won playoff rounds unlike Anderson after 5 seasons can we afford to bow out again in the 1st round?
5.) 20 Mar 2021 20:26:11
anderson for dubynuk: come on at least something better
Nylander for erik karlsoon: who wants karlsson and nylander doing great now.
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31 May 2023 21:07:41
Good idea actually. Dump a load of salary and pick up 2 Picks this year or trade them to get something else you may need. so?
31 May 2023 21:06:02
To me the process of thought was not placed in this idea. E. K. is as old as Tavares and Hertl ain;t that younger. the 4th round pick this year? unless it's a stacked draft like 15 or 03 then forget it.
04 Jul 2022 21:56:22
I'd like to trade for wither Dal Colle or Keiffer Bellows.
25 Dec 2021 00:32:46
Would consider trading Matthews only on 2 conditions:
1) Free Agency
2) We win a Stanley Cup.
25 Dec 2021 00:21:43
Dude we are in a win now and yes getting Crosby MAY do that but for what? 1 Cup and another 50+ year drought? Now unless Dylan Strome miraculously plays to the Level of a Former Team mate of his from the Erie Otters this is 1 trade I would not make.
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