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27 Sep 2024 14:31:15
A trade I would love to see happen. Probably would never happen and if it did, probably have to wait until next off season.
To Tor : Marchenko, Jiricek - roughly 4.75M
To Clb : Nylander, Nylander, Robertson, Liljegren - roughly 16.5M maybe Leafs add a 2nd or 3rd to this because if the difference in salary cap.
Nylander agrees because Clb is giving him the opportunity to play with his brother on a line.
Also gives us room to comfortably resign Marner and have room for other upgrades. Also helps Clb fill in some cap space.
Fair trade or who adds here to make it happen?
1.) 27 Sep 2024 19:51:30
Quite possibly the worst trade in nhl history.
2.) 28 Sep 2024 11:21:51
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3.) 28 Sep 2024 16:22:24
For who Elbow, explain yourself. Stumpy Avery sucks at trying to be a troll.
17 Sep 2024 13:35:48
3 trades that I believe could and should happen. Trading for just draft picks because we already have too many guys here, would be open to prospects too but don’t know many of other teams prospects.
1st trade:
To Edm: Liljegren (50% retained by ANH)
To Tor: 3rd rd pick 2026 - *Edm sends 4th rd pick to ANH for retention.
Edmonton is currently searching for a RHD that can play top 4 minutes. Well here is Lily at 1.5M Edm, enjoy!
2nd trade:
To CLB: Robertson
To Tor: 3rd pick 2025, 4th rd pick 2026
CLB can use help in the top6 after JG ?. Robertson is the right age to grow and develop with that team.
3rd trade:
To Col : Jarnkrok
To Tor: 4th rd pick 2025
Col could use Jarnkrok to replace Lehkonen who will be out for a lot of the year.
Minten seems a little injury prone. I’d send him to the Marlies this year to see how he plays against the men in the AHL before giving him a full shot here.
I personally can’t stand the idea of Nylander at C but if I were to do it, I’d put Mitch with him to play down low coverage in our end. Willy takes the draws and floats like he normally does. Here would be my line combos if they went down this crazy road.
Knies Matthews Domi
McMann Nylander Marner
Patches JT Cowan
Dewar Kampf Reaves/ Holmberg
Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Hakanpaa
Weber Mattinen/ Parsons.
1.) 17 Sep 2024 23:54:58
That’s a lot of 3rd and 4th round picks being collected.
Low probability of any of them ever playing in the NHL.
I would prefer to keep the players who have already made it to the NHL!
Valuable depth.
2.) 18 Sep 2024 01:10:44
@WB how many guys you want to sit in the press box every night? Plus we are over the cap. At least a couple players need to be traded.
3.) 18 Sep 2024 01:29:45
They giveaways continue by Clarky.
4.) 18 Sep 2024 07:25:08
Stumpy by now everyone knows what you’re trying to do but you’re not very good at it . We can just tell you’re not too intelligent and you are just here to be the Sean Avery of the Leafs site and annoy everyone. Hey if it makes you feel important, have at it little guy.
5.) 19 Sep 2024 18:54:48
Because I don’t agree with you makes me not intelligent?
????♂️?♂️?♂️.
13 Sep 2024 13:41:10
So who is everyone’s picks to make this team and who is gonna get traded? Here is a list of players competing for each position.
LW: Knies, McMann, Robertson, Pacioretty, Dewar, Grebyenkin.
C: Matthews, JT, Domi?, Kampf, Holmberg, Minten, Lorentz
RW: Marner, Nylander, Domi?, Cowan, Jarnkrok, Reaves
LD: Rielly, OEL, Benoit, Weber, Rifai, Mermis
RD: Tanev, McCabe, Hakanpaa, Liljegren, Mattinen, Myers, Timmins, Niemela
For me it’s:
Knies, Pacioretty, McMann, Dewar on LW
Matthews, JT, Kampf, Holmberg on C
Domi, Marner, Nylander, Reaves on RW
LD: Rielly, OEL, Benoit, (spare - Weber)
RD: Tanev, McCabe, Hakanpaa (spare Mattinen)
Trade Robertson, Jarnkrok and Liljegren and send rest to the minors.
1.) 13 Sep 2024 19:27:22
Does anyone know what state Hakanpaa is in? Is he able to skate. Because of his uncertainty, I think you have to keep Liljegren, unfortunately.
2.) 13 Sep 2024 19:45:28
@Leafs Stink they waited 3 months to sign him so I think he would be ok. At least to start. I also think Mattinen is going to be a stud. 6’6 RHD that can skate and move the puck.
12 Sep 2024 12:46:40
Good Morning,
I thought I’d break down my thought process on what should happen going forward and how many people are trying out for few positions.
First off I’d trade off these 4 even for draft picks: Liljegren, Jarnkrok, Robertson, Timmins. This frees up around 7M.
My preferred lines with who is signed after these trades:
Knies Matthews Domi
? JT Nylander
McMann Kampf Marner - shut down line
Dewar Holmberg Reaves
Spare F -?
Here are the Forwards that are battling for that #2 LW position and spare F: Cowan, Patches, Grebyenkin, Minten, Steeves, Lorentz.
I would take Cowan since they want to keep Patches as well. Last year Knies died out a bit from not being use to playing so many games. Keep Cowan and Patches giving a 60%-40% split to keep both players fresh throughout the year.
Lines would look like this depending on who is playing:
Knies Matthews Domi
Cowan/ Patches JT Nylander
McMann Kampf Marner
Dewar Holmberg Reaves
Spare: Cowan or Patches
* One added point to the forward group is that I am not sure why everyone is trying to get rid of Kampf. He along with Marner are our two best PK’ing F’s. I really believe Keefe mis used him in the 4th line but I think his true potential would show as a 3C shut down guy.
Defence:
Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Hakanpaa
Spare LD and RD?
D trying out for LD spare: Weber, Mermis, Rifai, Chadwick.
Trying out for RD spare: Myers, Mattinen
My picks: Weber and Mattinen
We would have enough cap space after those trades to keep a spare F and two spare D with lots of cap space left over for a deadline deal if needed.
My Final Roster after Training Camp:
Knies Matthews Domi
Cowan/ Patches JT Nylander
McMann Kampf Marner
Dewar Holmberg Reaves
Spare F: Cowan or Patches
Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Hakanpaa
Weber Mattinen
Woll / Stolarz
Thoughts, changes, criticisms?
1.) 12 Sep 2024 14:42:23
I stopped reading when I saw marner on the third line…as a checking winger….
???.
2.) 12 Sep 2024 14:46:17
I personally would have Nylander play with Mathews, Marner with Tavares and Domi on the shut down line. Marner kills penalties, but I don't see him as a shutdown guy.
3.) 12 Sep 2024 18:23:44
Willy on the third line. Been wanting it for years.
Can't happen at his salary now though. Would make Tre look dumb.
4.) 12 Sep 2024 18:41:37
Maybe it’s cause you can’t read Stumpy or you’re too busy trying to get 2 - 2nd rounders for Liljegren. ?. Maybe you shouldn’t use sarcasm when you don’t know much about hockey or the Leafs.
@Leafsstink I think Berube will spread the lines out this year as he should. Keefe was complaining about depth scoring last year until he finally moved Nylander or JT to the 3rd line. Plus Marner with McMann will get his chances.
5.) 12 Sep 2024 20:11:27
Marner seems to bring the best out of JT, whenever they played together. I totally agree with spreading out the lines/ scoring. I just can't put shut down and Marner in the same sentence.
6.) 12 Sep 2024 20:54:23
I get where you’re coming from but if either Nylander, Marner or Domi have to go on that line to play against the other teams best line, it’s Mitch for me. Nylander and Domi aren’t very good in their own end plus Marner running his own line could bring out his potential. I also wouldn’t mind Domi with Mitch where Domi takes faceoffs and Marner takes care of down low coverage.
7.) 12 Sep 2024 22:06:01
Ya Marner on the third line is ridiculous maybe in the playoffs cause it think his skill set doesn’t stack up to playoff hockey and that’s been the Achilles heel for him in my opinion he can’t do what he normally does when the whistles go away and he’s the small guy on the ice in terms of playoff hockey 3rd line offers him a bit more of an advantage as far as talent on paper but to have that as your regular lineup is way off base.
8.) 12 Sep 2024 22:56:25
Larky17
Get a grip
In what universe does a 10.9 million dollar player with offensive skills end up on the third line?
That’s right… No universe
So yes …???????????.
9.) 12 Sep 2024 23:52:12
Ha ha ha!
Sticking Marner on the 3rd line with McMann and Kampf, a 4th line center, should just about be enough to guarantee that he doesn’t resign with the Leafs next summer!
10.) 13 Sep 2024 10:28:36
Hey stupid, *stumpy, guaranteed that either Nylander or Marner end up on the 3rd line this year. Pay attention because Willy, JT and Marner all took turns playing the 3rd line last year.
@WB not our problem anymore. He isn’t gonna be here long term anyway, put him where the team needs him. It will also drive his production down a bit which won’t help his next contract (just incase they decide to resign him. )
11.) 13 Sep 2024 21:05:22
@WB good. Go get paid 12+ somewhere else. If Mitch doesn't resign and JT takes a discount in the 4-6 range, that's a tonne of cap space.
12 Sep 2024 11:58:08
Trades to happen to get rid of some dead weight:
To CLB: Robertson, Liljegren, Jarnkrok
To Tor: 3rd rd pick 2025, 4th rd pick 2026
To ANH: Timmins, 6th rd pick
To Tor: future considerations.
7M free’d up. Not sure if CLB would take all 3, might have to put Lily or Jarnkrok in a different trade but you get what I’m trying to do.
1.) 12 Sep 2024 14:43:33
The colombus trade is a complete give away.
2.) 12 Sep 2024 18:43:03
Stumpy I’d listen to anyone else’s input but your evaluations of the Leaf players is so off the charts it’s crazy. Ya big jokester. ?.
3.) 12 Sep 2024 22:08:41
Maybe if it results in a good player line trade deadline or next offseason but I’d need a solid reason or gain for doing this if you’re free up cap space for the sake of it then kinda dumb and pointless.
4.) 12 Sep 2024 22:56:56
Keep dreaming Larky
Keep dreaming.
5.) 13 Sep 2024 10:45:55
@LeafsGM we are a better team without those players anyway. This would give us a chance to keep Patches and Cowan or Robertson (I hope not) and two spare D plus have enough cap space to get an impactful player at the deadline and not have to pull someone out of retirement again. Lol.
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02 Oct 2024 19:28:16
F’N last minute Brad. Trade Liljegren and Jarnkrok already what’s the hold up? Man this makes a presentation out of everything.
1.) 03 Oct 2024 15:31:31
I don't think either one is getting traded. They clearly want to keep Lilly especially. I'm not sure why, but I'd be surprised if he's traded.
2.) 03 Oct 2024 20:03:49
Well who do they move LL? All these guys aren’t sitting in the press box and we are over cap. Who do you think they will trade?
3.) 04 Oct 2024 02:08:42
Wendel Clark
For Mats Sundin
That’s the trade ClarkyMalarkey!
4.) 04 Oct 2024 10:37:52
Clarky. I’m thinking 2 out of these 4 will be traded. Jarnkrok, Lilly, timmins or I still could see them trading kampf and using holmberg in that 4 line role I personally hope they trade jarnkrok and Lilly.
24 Sep 2024 13:05:26
Here is how I see this tryout so far:
C's - Matthews, Nylander ( ?), JT, Kampf
LW’s - This is where all the excitement is for this camp. Knies, McMann, Pacioretty, Robertson, Holmberg, Dewar, Lorentz.
Knies, McMann are not going anywhere. Patches looks to make this team, Dewar is 4th line and Lorentz or Holmberg hold that spot down until he comes back from IR.
RW - Marner, Domi, Jarnkrok, Cowan, Reaves, Grebyenkin
So who his it going to be?
My LW’s are: Knies, McMann, Patches, Dewar (Holmberg or Lorentz for spare F and to fill in for Dewar while out)
My RW’s are: Marner, Domi, Grebyenkin, Reaves.
Which means if I’m right, Robertson, Jarnkrok, (Holmberg or Lorentz), Timmins, and Tre please Liljegren all have to be waived, traded or sent down. Not sure how they will make it happen but will be interesting.
1.) 24 Sep 2024 17:42:06
Knies Matthews domi
Mcmann nylander marner
Patches jt Cowan
Grebeykin kampf jarnkrok
Extras: holmberg dewar reaves
As of right now I would try this I think if willy is gonna play centre they need to put him with two defensively responsible players.
2.) 24 Sep 2024 18:05:14
I would personally like to see kampf gone as well. I think that a Lorentz dewar reaves 4th line. You got dewar and Lorentz who can also kill penalties and are defensively responsible and play with a bit more bite then kampf.
Agree that Timmins, liljegren and Robertson need to kick rocks.
3.) 24 Sep 2024 18:47:54
@GOAT you can’t keep Grebs and Jarnkrok for the 4th line. Won’t be good for Grebyenkins development and if Jarnkrok was in the line it’s would be a 5M 4th line. Reaves is playing, we need him in the lineup to set the tone. Maybe if we play against some softer teams I can see him sitting.
@Kmores I’m a fan of Kampf, Keefe barely played him 5 on 5 but he is a good PKer and defensive Center. IMO perfect for Line 3.
My lines after trades/ waivers/ sent down:
Knies Matthews Domi
McMann Nylander Marner
Patches JT Grebyenkin
Holmberg Kampf Reaves
Dewar IR*
Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit/ Mattinen/ Dermis/ Myers or trade Lily and Robo for a better RHD.
15 Sep 2024 09:52:27
Anyone watch the Rookie game vs MTL yesterday afternoon? If so just wanted to see what everyone liked. Cowan and especially Minten looked good yesterday but for me it was their D. I haven’t been a big fan of Tre but I do like what he is doing with this defence. We have some big nasty boys back there and my favourite was some guy I never heard of. Rhett Parsons, guy plays mean, he took and gave many hits, he was in their players heads and he looked pretty good with the puck too. Oh and he is RHD too. Trade Liljegren fast and the tryout for the spare RHD to fill in for Hakanpaa here and there is a good one. Boys play at 1pm today too but have to watch through YouTube or the Leafs website!
1.) 16 Sep 2024 11:16:16
Never saw any of the games just parts of highlights seems like there are a few guys separating themselves should make for a good camp regardless I love that they took two games from a team that should have a far superior prospect system.
08 Sep 2024 18:13:00
Why don’t we all take a guess on what we think McCabe’s extension will look like to see who is closest.
I’ll go with
$4.75M X 4years but could see Tre doing 6 years too.
1.) 09 Sep 2024 01:20:43
36 million for 6 years
Tre overpays as usual.
2.) 09 Sep 2024 14:05:56
**** Stumpy I hope they don’t go that high. That would be quite the overpay but could also see it happening.
3.) 09 Sep 2024 16:26:29
5.5 by 4.
4.) 10 Sep 2024 01:39:51
Friedman saying that Larsson is close to an extention, $5.25M/ 4 years.
I would think McCabe comes a little under that, so I think $4.75M/ 4 years as Clarky posted above.
5.) 10 Sep 2024 11:36:02
I have him at 5x$5M.
6.) 10 Sep 2024 14:33:18
5x4.5 tre seems to give older guys term over aav McCabe would probably rather security at his age.
7.) 10 Sep 2024 15:09:36
Goat. That was my initial thought as well, but with the cap projected to rise dramatically, I went up $500K per.
8.) 11 Sep 2024 08:12:10
@RFL
Yea I would just be cautious how much you pay him just because I think if he’s a 3rd pair guy you can find a cheaper option I think McCabe is perfect for the leafs but I still think term gets him to sign.
05 Sep 2024 16:11:43
I’m not sure why everyone is saying that we need a new 2C? JT will take a pay cut next year but he is still putting up 65-80 points every year. Who are you gonna find putting up those points and willing to take a team friendly deal to finish his career here. JT is still a legit #2 C on any team in this league. I know it will be easier to love JT when he is making closer to 5M per.
1.) 05 Sep 2024 17:41:46
I think this every time I see the comment as well. I can't think of many better 2C's to have than JT based on his production last year.
Seems to me like people think you need two 1C's like it was when JT first signed. That just isn't realistic though.
2.) 05 Sep 2024 20:19:18
Ty LL. I’ve seen WB49 and Hrenklin say it amongst others. But I don’t understand it. He is continually one of the best faceoff guys in the league, we start out pretty much every power play with the puck because of him. Not only that he is not afraid to get into the dirty areas and go to the net. Can’t say the same about the other 3 in Marner, Matthews and especially Nylander. His style is needed to try and accommodate for all our perimeter players.
3.) 06 Sep 2024 00:25:24
I don't get it either guys. An upgrade at 3C? I understand that, but JT is more than adequate as a 2C. Great on draws. Solid enough 200 ft game. Still puts up points and wants to be a Leaf. Class act. What more do people want?
4.) 06 Sep 2024 13:11:58
I think the only knock on Johnny is his mobility but it’s always been the case I am more curious as to why the bottom 6 will look like a lot of bodies fighting for 1-2 spots which is why Robertson wants out.
5.) 06 Sep 2024 13:30:18
Again, take this with a grain of salt.
I'm hearing there's lot of momentum with the JT negotiations. The latest news I'm hearing is somewhere around $4M/ 5 years.
Marner negotiations are very quiet.
6.) 06 Sep 2024 13:58:55
Also, hearing Leafs not interested in bringing Robertson back. Leafs felt like they gave him a lot of support and opportunity, and were slighted when he went public with his wish not to play. Either he gets traded or they will not sign him and he sits this year.
7.) 06 Sep 2024 14:15:30
And yes, I get this is all news we can probably guess. Just saying what I'm hearing.
08 Oct 2024 19:01:49
I like this deal RLF but we need to get rid of a few people. I was thinking,
Robertson and Lily for Goodrow on SJ.
Then we trade Jarnkrok to Clb for a 4th and this team don’t look too bad.
Knies Matthews Domi
Patches JT Marner
McMann Goodrow Nylander
Lorentz Kampf Reaves spare Holmberg IR Dewar
Rielly Tanev
OEL Myers
Benoit McCabe
Rifai/ Timmins spares Hakanpaa on IR.
08 Oct 2024 12:46:20
CKPS 100% don’t get what people see sometimes. We have soft offensive forwards, why we adding more? Playoffs?
07 Oct 2024 10:01:53
Sorry to put a damper but the only way we are getting a 2nd for Lily is if we are putting a 3rd in the deal as well and even then, if I was a Philly fan I’d still say no. I personally think he brings a 3rd if we’re lucky for a later year (2026/ 27) but probably a 4th. Teams know he couldn’t make our top 8 D, he is a project at this point for anyone to take on.
04 Oct 2024 11:37:25
I agree with Leafs Stink. Nice try with the post though. Robertson is gonna be streaky and soft. Don’t see him going over 25, you are way off Mackin. Just cause you score 35 with Robertson in NHL 24 doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen in real life.
29 Sep 2024 04:17:25
Don’t think I’ve seen a worse troll. You’re trying too hard and you are not very good at it. Most Leaf fans that know hockey realize Willy is one dimensional, soft streaky player. Nice try Stumpy Avery.
08 Oct 2024 19:11:56
I agree with you Tagsy! I was the one right with you on Matt Roy. Him and Tanev +Hakanpaa would have been lights out. I really hope they give Myers a chance because I think he is the most valuable as a bottom pair D/ PK’er over Lily and Timmins. The guy didn’t lose a puck battle in the pre season, fought Josh Anderson (and did ok) and was jumping up in the play. Him and Benoit as the bottom pair would be the bash bros from the Mighty Ducks. I just don’t get excited when Lily is in the line up compared to a Myers type D but am also looking forward to seeing if Timmins can continue where he left off last pre season. ?.
08 Oct 2024 10:27:51
Ya Pridham I’m sure earns his money for getting it under. But like, why? Why is he forced to get it under by a $1?. When guys like Liljegren have no business being here. Should have never been signed. Reminds me of the same type of D as Caleb Addison, who was let go by Minny and got a PTO this year just to be cut. This would have been Liljegren if he wasn’t on the Leafs. Instead we overpay him, keep him as a 7th/ 8th D and hope that year 7 is the year he is valuable?
04 Oct 2024 21:29:16
Plus Tags are you calling my wife gay? ?.
04 Oct 2024 21:28:14
Tags I thought it was pretty clear I’m not a Nylander fan. One dimensional F that wont engage in physical battles, stick up for his teammates or backcheck. But eats up 11.5M? Can’t win in the playoffs with guys like these making that much. We have too many and for me, Willy has the most downside to his game.
04 Oct 2024 11:49:18
Jarnkrok, Liljegren, Timmins all traded to make 6.2M in cap space. We are already 1.2M over so we are down to 5M. Sign Lorentz, Patches, Myers and Rifai to one year 1M deal. Leaves us with 1M in cap space to carry an extra F or D and have money to make a move at the deadline if necessary. Nylander experiment sounds like it’s over at C. Didn’t take Berube long to see he is a useless teet in his own end.
Knies Matthews Domi
Robertson JT Marner
McMann Holmberg Nylanderthol
Lorentz Kampf Reaves
Spare: Patches
IR: Dewar
Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Hakanpaa
Spare LD Rifai, spare RD Myers
Love the way Rifai and Myers play and don’t mind seeing them fill in for the void when needed on the back end.
2nd piece I’m calling is Stolarz is gonna steal the net this year over Woll.