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07 Feb 2025 21:59:54
Alright gentlemen, I think we have all seen and made every trade there is possibly to make. After all that I have narrowed it down to the two most realistic trades that will happen with our short money and draft picks/ prospects.

1st trade with Utah:
To Tor: Kesselring, Bjugstad.

To Utah: Kampf, Robertson, Timmins,2025 2nd rd pick, 2026 3rd rd pick

OR
Trade 2:
To Tor: Donato, Murphy (50% retained)

To Chi: Timmins, Webber, Kampf, Robertson, 2025 2nd rd pick.

What option would you choose if these were the only two realistic choices we had to get a 3C and RHD? Or is there a better option than this that fits in our price range?
I don’t think this will happen but if we go for a big time C…
Trade 3:
To Tor: B. Schenn, 3rd rd pick 2025

To STL: Kampf, Domi, Minten, Hildeby, 2025 4th rd pick.

Clarky17

1.) 08 Feb 2025 03:14:12
Trade 2
But that is not enough going to the hawks quality wise.


2.) 08 Feb 2025 05:33:08
I like the Utah trade.
It would work for both teams.

The Chicago trade would likely require a little more from the Leafs.
Especially if the Blackhawks were to retain 50%

Not at all interested in Braydon Schenn.
Schenn is 33 years old and will be 34 this Summer.
With 3 more years under contract at $6.5M per year that takes Schenn to 37 years old.
No thanks.
Looking at Schenn’s numbers they are down across the board this season and have been slipping for the past couple of years.
Not what Leafs should be looking for in a future 3rd line center.


3.) 08 Feb 2025 12:53:02
Hey thanks guys. I agree that Chi would need more going back but I’m honestly not sure which trade I like better. I’m leaning Chi way because Donato has 16G and 16A this and not making much and on a bad team. I also love the way Murphy plays D. He plays very similar to Tanev an all heart guy that blocks anything. Half retained, I would be very excited to get this trade pulled off. Not that I wouldn’t like the Utah trade but assets coming back from Chi are ready to win now, while Kesselring is still developing and this trade would be better if we were Montreal or something who is still developing themselves.


4.) 08 Feb 2025 13:29:02
Utah trade seems like pretty fair value. I agree with the others on Chicago wanting more.
Neither trade makes me think it moves the Leafs over the top. Although if I had to choose, the Utah trade.


5.) 08 Feb 2025 14:29:35
I don’t think any of these trades push the needle enough to put leafs as a serious contender in the east. IMO.


 

 

06 Feb 2025 00:44:35
To Tor: Trochek (5.6 X 4), Lindgren (4.5 X 1 50% retained)

To NYR: Reilly, Minten, Robertson, Hildeby, 2nd rd pick 2025

Trochek may be available now with JT Miller taking the top 2 C spot with Zib. Who adds here?

Knies Matthews Domi
Patches JT Nylander
McMann Trochek Marner
Lorentz Holmberg Dewar/ Reaves/ Kampf

McCabe Tanev
Lindgren OEL
Benoit Timmins/ Myers.

Clarky17

1.) 06 Feb 2025 13:51:27
Rangers are pretty weak down the middle, so can't see them getting rid of one of their top 2 centres. I could see them in on Cozens if he is actually available.


2.) 06 Feb 2025 19:13:02
RLF, they are using JT Miller as a winger RN. He is suppose to be a C. Zinanejad and Trochek plus Miller are all top 2 C’s where would they even put Cozens?


3.) 07 Feb 2025 12:27:49
Clarky, I am pretty sure Miller is playing some C in NY. He's taken 31 draws over the 3 games. He seems to be splitting the C duties with MZ. Seems they prefer to load up the top two lines as they work Miller in. Assuming they do not go with those 3 as all centres, Cozens would be the 3 C if they got him.


 

 

05 Feb 2025 14:15:44
One stop shop:

To Tor: Ras. Anderson (4.55 X2), Blake Coleman (4.9 X 3), Mantha (3.5M X1) * On IR and leave there until playoffs.

To Cgy: Reilly (7.5X4), Minten, Kampf (2.4 X 3)Robertson, Cade Webber, 2nd rd pick 2025.

Reilly agrees to trade because Calgary flips him to Edm for Kulak, Podkolzin and a 2027 1st rd pick.

Playoff lineup:

Knies Matthews Domi
Mantha JT Marner
McMann Coleman Nylander
Lorentz Dewar Holmberg/ Reaves/ Jarnkrok/ Patches

McCabe Tanev
OEL Andersen
Benoit Timmins/ Myers - trade Jarnkrok+ if we want to improve bottom 2 D.

Clarky17

1.) 05 Feb 2025 17:25:57
I have to believe Anderson commands more as top pairing RHD on a great contract. It's the hardest position to fill and even harder for that price.


2.) 05 Feb 2025 22:15:59
Reilly trades should stop because he’s not gonna waive.


 

 

03 Feb 2025 17:25:41
Realistic TDL move:

To Tor : JG Pageau (50% retained X 2 by CBJ), D’Angelo ( I know this guy is hated by many) but what he offers is everything the Leafs need. Feisty with an offensive touch and shoots right. Deal with him for one month if he is that much of a pain, he is a UFA.

To CBJ: Robertson (for 2 years of retention at 2.5M X 2

To NYI: Minten, Kampf, 3rd rd pick 2026

Knies Matthews Domi
Patches JT Marner
MCMann JGP Nylander
Lorentz Holmberg Dewar/ Reaves/ Jarnkrok

McCabe Tanev
OEL D’Angelo
Rielly Timmons/ Myers/ Benoit.

Clarky17

1.) 03 Feb 2025 18:23:46
@Claeky you think Mo is bad defensively? Watch some D'Angelo. He's a complete mess. I have zero interest.


2.) 03 Feb 2025 21:32:56
Well LL he had great stats in the KHL and so far in 5 games in the N on the Islanders: 1G, 2A, +4, 11 shots and 14 blocks plus 1 GWG. Don’t look to bad. To me, worth a shot for a couple months to see if he is the fit we need, if not he is cheap enough to get rid of.


3.) 03 Feb 2025 23:53:44
I don’t think I would be prepared to sacrifice Minten, Robertson and a 3rd round pick for Pageau whether D’Angelo’s was included or not.

Minten, Robertson and a 3rd for Scott Lawton, yes!

Plus, the potential for D’Angelo’s to disrupt the Leaf’s dressing room room chemistry, based on his past behavior, would be too great a risk in my opinion.


4.) 04 Feb 2025 02:28:45
@WB I see where you’re coming from but Mintens ceiling is a 3C like Pageau. We are just getting the ready now version of him. Robertson needs a change of scenery as he doesn’t have much trade value. I would take Laughton for that too but might be a bit more expensive, at least a 2nd instead of a 3rd.


5.) 04 Feb 2025 17:47:22
lol why didn’t the leafs just sign him b4 islanders lol
Makes no sense.


 

 

01 Feb 2025 13:12:18
To Tor: Durzi, Bjugstad

To Utah: Rielly, Robertson

Who adds here?

Clarky17

1.) 01 Feb 2025 16:59:26
No one but durzi on IR on a week to week recovery can u afford to give up Rielly then wait for durzi to recover from a shoulder injury?

MCcabe Tanev
OEL Timmons
Benoit Myers
Seems very week to go for weeks.


2.) 01 Feb 2025 22:44:16
Ummm yes. I think we would be better with Reilly out of the lineup. Durzi is getting close anyhow.


 

 

 

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05 Jan 2025 13:17:55
Where is all this Knies hate? Guy has a couple slow starts after a concussion and everyone is all over him. Kid getting back into stride, he is so hard to play against if you’re a D man.

Clarky17

1.) 05 Jan 2025 17:22:31
Not sure either. He's been getting better consistently.


2.) 05 Jan 2025 18:00:17
Was he really getting a lot of hate on here? I just remember the typical flip floppers on here ragging on Knies when he wasn't scoring.


3.) 05 Jan 2025 22:36:50
I was certainly one to criticize his game; he was invisible for 3 weeks.

The last 2 games have been much better.

He’s still young and learning; the adage “adversity molds a man’s mind” will hopefully apply to him.


 

 

01 Jan 2025 15:46:56
My new #1 target for Leafs 3C is Jake Evan’s from MTL. Last 7 games he has 5G and 3A’s. This season has 23 points in 37 games while having a 49.4% F/ O winning percentage. He is on the last year of his deal and makes 1.7M. This IMO checks all our boxes, just sucks he is on Montreal and all of a sudden they have won 6 of the last 7 games.
What would it take to get this guy from MTL? My thoughts are Kampf, Robertson, Hildeby for Jake Evan’s and a 3rd rd pick 2025. Option to resign him next year and start Minten as the 4th line C?

Clarky17

1.) 01 Jan 2025 17:18:03
Hrenklin and GOAT…. any comments on acquiring Evans?


2.) 01 Jan 2025 23:17:43
I see Evans as a 4c nothing more if you can replace kampf with him I’m ok but idk why the habs would take the more expensive player.


3.) 02 Jan 2025 00:45:13
Agreed Goat.
He's just on a bender at the moment.
He's shooting a ridiculous 30.3% compared to a career average of 10.2%.


4.) 02 Jan 2025 01:54:39
Agree with Tags and Goat. Someone might pay a 1st for him if he keeps up the pace, but they'll be disappointed.


5.) 02 Jan 2025 02:46:08
Evans is playing 4C and has more points than our whole 4th line combined. Even if you take away the 8 points in the last 7 games, he is still on a 0.5pt per game pace and McMann is the only one in our bottom 6 with stats close to that. I think this is a cheap rental that could turn into an extension or he could just be a place holder if Minten is ready next year.


6.) 02 Jan 2025 11:12:36
@clarky I get what you’re saying 100% but like I said if kampf is going out the door I’m on board but I wouldn’t have both because he’s not playing 3C not if the leafs expect to make a run.


 

 

01 Jan 2025 14:58:39
Happy New Years Leaf Fam! Is 2025 the year?

Clarky17

1.) 01 Jan 2025 18:45:22
Happy New Year Clarky & fellow Leafs fans!
I'll go out on a limb and say YES 2025 is the year!
Go Leafs Go ?.


2.) 01 Jan 2025 20:08:04
Happy New Years.


 

 

28 Dec 2024 11:21:03
Thoughts on Easton Cowan?
Man he reminds me Willy a couple years ago. Not much effort away from the puck, doesn’t engage in puck battles too often. Playing like he is too good to backcheck and/ or forecheck. I am not a fan of this type of player, hope they can shake these bad habits out of him. But yes he has lots of skill, so we are suppose to deal with his defensive/ lazy downfalls? Just spitting my opinion.

Clarky17

1.) 28 Dec 2024 16:17:23
Clarky I think the issue is he plays 2+ minute shifts and is conserving his energy. I heard this is how Hunter uses him on the Knights, so this is how he's programmed to play ATM.
I'm sure he'll be different once he starts playing 30/ 40 second high energy shifts with the Leafs during next years rookie camp and training camp.


2.) 28 Dec 2024 18:00:04
@Clarky 99% of players coming into the league are like this. Everyone talks about Crosby being a great 2 way forward, but even he was lazy on the backcheck early in his career.

When you're a superstar in juniors, nobody cares if you back/ forecheck. They just don't get it until later on most of the time.


3.) 28 Dec 2024 18:42:32
I agree with you guys. I didn’t like Austin the first couple years he came in the league. He was one dimensional. But Austin became a two way player over time where as Willy is maybe JUST starting to work away from the puck and on the defensive side. Took him 10 years to become average on the defensive side of the puck.


4.) 28 Dec 2024 19:15:36
Agree for the most part on Cowan. He looked more engaged defensively in training camp.

As for Willy. I am not sure if I have ever seen him lazier than as of late. He started so strong, but he needs to be stapled to the bench for a period if he keeps his lazy, whatever attitude on the ice.


5.) 28 Dec 2024 21:50:42
Agreed RLF. Willy always seems to be getting it together, then old habits resurface.


6.) 29 Dec 2024 22:04:23
Cowan is a hot dog
Condiments included.


7.) 29 Dec 2024 22:38:14
I think Cowan game 1 was a lot more of what he is he was driving play mixing it up after whistles I see him more as a marner type with a bit of attitude.


 

 

16 Dec 2024 14:12:44
My take always from last game:

-Robertsons and Domis best game as a Leaf this season (huge shoutout to McMann as well)
-still think Matthews and Marner need to be split up. Too much cute ? that leads to turnovers. They are working hard to retrieve pucks but also turning them over just as easy.
-Hildeby should of been traded so other people didn’t get to see our new 6’7 version of Samsonov
-JT is making all the people eat thier words who wanted to trade him or think he is signing for under 5M
-Missing Timmins last night was very noticeable for me. Myers plays well in physical board battles but then he just throws the puck away, drills it up the boards every time. Where as Timmons is taking time to make a good breakout pass or skate it out himself.
-Dewar is really growing in me. Him and Lorentz can be relentless. Just need a winger to put with them. Reaves ain’t it. Holmberg would make this line really tough to play against.
- love the JT, Patches, Knies line but would need to see more of Matthews, Marner and Nylander together against a good team to see how they look on both ends of the ice.

Clarky17

1.) 16 Dec 2024 14:53:30
Hildeby is young enough he might develop into something. Hard to say. I wouldn't be to hard on him.


2.) 16 Dec 2024 19:59:10
Ya he could LL. But the Russian has already taken the horns in the Marlies at 1A. Woll is young, Stolarz only 29. How long this guy gonna wait to bypass those two and the Russian kid. We have a ready to win now team. Move him in a trade with Robertson to get our 3C we need.


3.) 17 Dec 2024 00:10:08
@Clarky I think I might have PTSD when it comes to trading goalies. Just keep them all lol.


4.) 17 Dec 2024 19:34:09
Lol I know, we have all been haunted by the Ferguson Tuuku Rask trade. ? to me if we don’t want to lose Minten or Cowan he is the next viable option.


 

 

 

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09 Feb 2025 14:53:54
Not sure how many times we need to say this but no one is retaining 3.5M for 4 years, unless you overpay for it.

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08 Feb 2025 18:15:49
Hrenkin, in the games we lose it’s not usually a defensive error (unless it’s Reilly) but it’s cause we can’t score half the time. You can get as many D as you like but if we can’t put the puck in the net, the playoff outcome won’t be good.

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08 Feb 2025 12:53:02
Hey thanks guys. I agree that Chi would need more going back but I’m honestly not sure which trade I like better. I’m leaning Chi way because Donato has 16G and 16A this and not making much and on a bad team. I also love the way Murphy plays D. He plays very similar to Tanev an all heart guy that blocks anything. Half retained, I would be very excited to get this trade pulled off. Not that I wouldn’t like the Utah trade but assets coming back from Chi are ready to win now, while Kesselring is still developing and this trade would be better if we were Montreal or something who is still developing themselves.

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08 Feb 2025 03:24:22
I wouldn’t trade Knies. Guy actually raises his game for playoffs. I agree with building from the D out but man we just finally got forwards with heart to go and dig out a puck in the corner and in the front of the net. We have Knies, McMann and JT. I wouldn’t offer him in any deal IMO.

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07 Feb 2025 22:07:58
I love the trade and who we’re getting but I don’t think we would have to put Minten or Cowan in a deal for these two. But very close IMO but don’t think these two deserve one of our top prospects.

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09 Feb 2025 14:57:20
Well…? Have we had enough of that line yet? 2 perimeter players playing together that need to have the puck in their stick all the time doesn’t work. I don’t get why Chief won’t spread these freaking lines out. Matthews, Marner and Nylander all on seperate lines. They are big boys they can handle it plus they get paid accordingly to drive a line. Like we’re 50+ games in and Chief hasn’t even tried it. Always back to the well with Marner and Matthews. Drives me nuts, like make a F****N change already.

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07 Feb 2025 01:21:46
I’m sorry but I can’t stand that 2nd line. Over 34M on this line and they never play well together. Too many chiefs NO Indians. Keep trying it Craig, it doesn’t work. Sorry RLF, I agree with a lot of stuff you say but this l definitely is not one of them. I’m writing this before the game so hopefully they can make me eat my words but I doubt it.

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05 Feb 2025 22:13:04
RLF I’m not sure why you want that line so bad? They put Marner and Nylander together with Matthews a bunch when JT was out and vice versa when Matthews was out and they haven’t put up a point. No warriors on the line, no contrast. Won’t even work in regular season, it’s definitely not gonna work in playoffs. Not sure why you wouldn’t want the 3 spread out across top 3 lines and compete for ice time and PP.

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05 Feb 2025 22:09:32
You definitely have a weird way of giving players a shout out. Knies has become what this team has lacked for years. But what about McBobby? Guy has sighed a 1.35M X 2 contract and is on pace to almost hit 30 goals. What a steal this guy is. I don’t even think Bobby knew he’d take off like this. Made Tre look smart but I think he got lucky. This guy keeps up this pace or close to and the salary cap going up, he is gonna be in the neighborhood of a 5-7M dollar player per year. Enjoy this while we can at 1.35M another reason why Marner can walk is so we can keep guys like Bobby!

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01 Feb 2025 22:38:58
Yes LL. Seems much higher this year than years past. Any half decent player gets you a 1st rd pick apparently.

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