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12 Mar 2025 00:10:37
Hopefully Tre can get rid of Domi in the off season.
To Utah
Domi $3.75M/ 3yrs
2025 2nd
To Toronto
Doan $.925M/ 1yr RFA
Thoughts?
1.) 12 Mar 2025 19:17:21
With Domi, it will all come down to how effective he is on the playoffs or if he becomes a cap casualty if they run it back with Marner and JT.
But I don't pay a team to move him.
2.) 12 Mar 2025 19:29:43
Hopefully he does have a good playoff because I honestly think we will have to pay to move him if he doesn't.
Leafs will need all the cap space they can get if re-signing Marner & Tavares.
3.) 13 Mar 2025 00:12:53
I’ll be the one that says it if domi hits 40 pts that’s what I expect anything more is a bonus with the cap going up and up that contract becomes so manageable I think we just had higher hopes after how his second half of the season went.
4.) 13 Mar 2025 00:51:07
I was just looking at the Domi buyout numbers on Spotrak.
If Leafs were to buy out Domi this summer the savings would only be $1million per year for 3 years.
Cost to Leafs $2.750 per year for 3 years.
Then $500,000 cost to cap for 3 more years.
Barely worth it!
5.) 13 Mar 2025 08:09:51
@Goat agreed. That's the real issue. He's a middle 6 winger who should be good for 10g 40pts on a good year. That's all I expect.
6.) 13 Mar 2025 09:10:17
@LL yup but he’s paid like a third liner so like I said expect more but his contract reflects what he is honestly I just wish he would do other things if he’s not scoring like playing chippy running his mouth something he can do.
7.) 13 Mar 2025 12:13:46
Domi is on pace for a pro-rated 37 pt season. That is third line numbers, points wise. He is 7th in points amongst Leaf forwards. The next closest is Robertson who is 8 pts behind him playing only 1 game less.
Not that I am saying Domi has had a good offensive productive season, but when you are playing mostly with the guys who aren't producing either, how is he expected to produce?
To me, this isn't just a Domi issue at $3.75M, it is also a Holmberg, Robertson, Patches etc problem. None of them have more than 17 pts. Hopefully Jarnkrok can help add some offence to the bottom 6 as he is typically a 30-35 pts per year guy.
8.) 13 Mar 2025 13:17:28
RLF I get what you're saying, but those guys all make 1/ 4 Domi's salary.
Anyways, salary aside, I just need to see more goals from him and not just points. He has to shoot more and drive to the net. That's what I want to see from him.
If that doesn't change, Leafs may have to add a draft pick in order to move him because IMO he would be wasted salary moving forward.
9.) 13 Mar 2025 14:03:41
Tags. No disagreement on that Domi needs to shoot more and be more effective in general. I know those guys all make much less, but would you expect Willy to still score 40 if he played with them? Of course not. My point was that e takes flak mostly for a lack of goals/ points compared to salary. Point wise, he is on pace of a typical 3rd liner. He has also been moved all over the lineup playing with different linemates constantly, as guys like him and McMann have had to do. Hard to develop any chemistry.
And yes, he may be a cap casualty, but with the new cap limit next year, I wouldn't pay to move him. He has some trade protection to deal with as well iirc.
10.) 13 Mar 2025 18:40:31
With the cap jump coming, and the fact Kerfoot was paid the same as Domi recently, do we really think better exists in UFA?
11.) 14 Mar 2025 01:02:27
Domi scores!
Leafs special teams are going to do them in.
And please just give Matthews a week or two off, he does not look himself. Way more important for him to take time off to heal and be ready for the playoffs.
12.) 14 Mar 2025 11:56:55
That game was a glimpse for all the Domi haters. Big game against a physical team and Domi has an impact in multiple ways whereas Marner, Matthews and Nylander no where to be found. We need to start giving value to guys that raise their game when it matters because most of our core 4 doesn’t.
13.) 14 Mar 2025 13:36:06
It's about time though, great game all around.
His best game since that 3 game scoring streak the 3rd line was on.
Let's see what he does going forward and into the playoffs. It would be a hige boost if he can continue playing at this level.
14.) 15 Mar 2025 09:46:13
You can’t have a guy in your lineup sucking for 82 games because of what he might do in the playoffs. Domi has to go even if you give him away.
15.) 15 Mar 2025 13:49:49
Ckps1976
That's why I proposed Domi, plus a 2nd for Josh Doan.
IMO if Domi plays better from now on out and has a descent playoffs it might remove or reduce the sweetener to move him in the off season.
Leafs will have approx. $27.5M next season and will be extremely tight against the cap if they re-sign Marner ($13Mish), Tavares ($5Mish deferred) & Knies ($5.5Mish/ 4yrs) . That's approx. $23.5M leaving roughly $4M (10 forwards, 7 D-men & 2 goalies) .
I would assume 3 more spots would need to be filled up front (Holmberg $1.2Mish, Lorentz $1Mish), which leaves us under $2M to shop in FA, and we're not going to pick up anything of significance with that.
IMO trade Domi $3.75M, plus whatever for Doan $.925 (3RW) . Saves us $2.8M. Also, trade Kampf $2.4M for a draft pick.
The combination gives us an additional $5.2Mish, plus the $2M left over ($7.2Mish) making it possible to target Bennett if he's available.
16.) 15 Mar 2025 18:59:31
Or Tags, we can let Marner walk and go after a couple playoff performer like Bennett. The fact that we are still talking about resigning everyone after 9 about to be 10 years of this crap is mind boggling to me. Getting rid of Domi is the answer? Come on guys. It’s like Leaf fans only remember the short term.
17.) 15 Mar 2025 19:17:13
Clarky I'm perfectly fine getting rid of Marner believe me. But I honestly think he will extend with the Leafs, which will put us in the same position as always. Nothing changes in Leaf land.
03 Mar 2025 15:56:13
Not sure if Clarke is available, but this should be someone Leafs should be all over if true.
To Toronto
Clarke
To LA
Robertson
Hildeby
2025 2nd (willing to up to 2026 1st)
LA is looking for scoring, plus they will need a back up, and possibly future starter. Also adding a 2nd (hoping it would be enough) .
Leafs finally get a young, cost controlled top4 RHD with lots of offensive upside, will have to work on his defensive game.
Thoughts?
1.) 03 Mar 2025 16:20:29
I posted this exact trade yesterday for Clarke. Also included a package for cozens. I’m still on the getting young players either under team control or with term to help this squad now and moving forward. The window on the leafs is not just this year but for the next 3-4 if they add smart young players and sign the ones we got already. We have enough veterans need some speed and youth injected now.
2.) 03 Mar 2025 16:55:41
Lol sorry I missed it, but I agree with you 100%. Leafs need to get younger players with term or RFAs. Enough with older players, especially UFAs.
Tre make your top prospect trades be worthwhile.
3.) 03 Mar 2025 18:30:16
If true, sure, Leafs should be in on it. What the Kings really need is a dependable 4th line centre that can wind draws and play a responsible game. Kampf should interest them. They could use a goalie prospect as you guys have said. I think Clarke is getting a little undervalued here though. Former 8th overall pick, puck moving D with good size and just turned 22.
I think it would be something like
Kampf, Hildeby and Cowan for Clarke.
Personally, I would rather try for Luneau at that kind of price tag, but that's me.
4.) 04 Mar 2025 02:35:05
Clarke is LAs top defensive prospect.
LA hope Clarke will take over from Drew Dowdy when he retires.
I don’t think they are giving him away at any price let alone Robertson, Hildeby and a 2nd.
5.) 04 Mar 2025 15:53:27
Spence has surpassed Clarke now.
11 Feb 2025 23:00:55
To Toronto
Kesselring $1.4M/ 2yrs RFA
Hayton $2.65M/ 2 yrs RFA
To Utah
Robertson $.875M RFA
Kampf $2.4M
Minten
2025 2nd
Niemela
*** willing to change the 2025 2nd to 2026 1st if this completes the deal.
11 Feb 2025 16:22:08
To Toronto
McTavish $.894M RFA
Vatrano $3.65M (signed 3yrs@$4.57M)
Luneau ELC
To Anaheim
Cowan ELC
Hideby ELC
2025 3rd
Domi $3.75M@4yrs
Robertson $.875M RFA
Values
McTavish & Luneau for Cowan, Hildeby & 2025 3rd
Vatrano for Domi & Robertson
Leafs upgrade 3rd line with McTavish & Vatrano. Plus get a potential top4 RHD for future.
Anaheim get 2 of our best prospects.
Hildeby will be a solid tandem goalie to play with Dostal, making it easier for them to trade Gibson.
Cowan will be a future 1st or 2nd line winger to play with either Carlsson or Zegras.
Robertson is much younger than Vatrano and should their future scoring winger who fits into their time line. And Domi should give them some veteran leadership.
1.) 12 Feb 2025 00:14:49
Add a 1st and replace the 3rd round pick with a 2nd then get back to Anaheim.
06 Feb 2025 03:35:20
I'm sure everyone read the news regarding Cozens. I think Leafs would have to pull off a 3 team trade to interest Buffalo.
To Chicago
Robertson $.875M
Niemela ELC
2025 2nd (via Toronto)
To Buffalo
Murphy $4.4M
2026 1st (via Toronto)
2025 4th (via Chicago)
Kampf $2.4M
Domi $3.75M
To Toronto
Cozens $7.1M
Obviously Kampf & Domi would need to waive.
No clue whether the values make sense.
Thoughts?
1.) 06 Feb 2025 09:24:37
So domi, kamph, Robertson, Niemela, a first and a second for Cozens? Yikes.
2.) 06 Feb 2025 12:07:12
He’s not coming to the leafs no matter what they are saying. I’d rather give that contract to Knies.
3.) 06 Feb 2025 12:14:07
Bob1965
I don't think it's enough to be honest.
I didn't include any of our top prospects, Cowan, Minten, Danford or Grebenkin.
4.) 06 Feb 2025 12:48:05
I think you are on the right track with it likely need a 3rd team and one that could give Buffalo a top 4 RD. I think Buffalo would be looking for a Tanev type of D, but younger. I don't think yu are too far off on the values.
People are down on Cozens, but he is a 23 year old 6'3" centre who doesn't mind the physical side of the game and is only 2 years removed from a 30+ goal season. He is likely a 50-70 pt 2nd line centre in the future who can play both special teams. He has value despite a down year. Too much potential there to be given away.
5.) 06 Feb 2025 12:53:40
I say at that AAV let Detroit or Montreal have him. For him to be available buffalo is regretting giving him that contract and trying to unload it, cause if he’s that good and centres are so coveted then why u getting rid of him. It’s a head scratcher.
6.) 06 Feb 2025 14:20:02
There’s got to be a reason buffalo is willing to move him. Not breaking the bank for
Him.
7.) 06 Feb 2025 23:58:03
He looks disinterested on the ice
Losing does that
The fresh start solution seems appropriate for him.
8.) 08 Feb 2025 14:39:58
Give the money to Knies.
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25 Apr 2025 14:34:16
Leafs with 12 goals
5 PP goals: JT(2), Knies(2), Willy(1)
7 Even strength goals:
2 Marner & Matthews (top 6)
1 Domi (bottom 6)
4 Defencemen Rielly(2), OEL (1), Benoit (1)
I just want to say that 2 defence goals came playing with bottom 6
OEL (Laughton & Jarnkrok)
Rielly (Robertson & McMann)
This is just a long winded post saying how the bottom 6 & defence are contributing to our success. Something that is needed for us to get to our Stanley Cup goal.
Go Leafs Go!!!
1.) 25 Apr 2025 18:10:51
Tags agreed. And most importantly, very good goaltending. This team has a chance. They may get outshot, but many shots are not overly dangerous, but when there is one, Stolarz makes the save and the team D has not allowed many second opportunities.
This is how to build a playoff style team. imo.
18 Mar 2025 14:37:01
I know it's only 3 games, but I'm taking full credit for Domi's resurgence ?
As soon as I made my trade prop for him, he's turned his game around. Hopefully it continues into the playoffs.
1.) 18 Mar 2025 15:57:23
LOL
Of course you are responsible. lol
What you didn't realize though, is that Clarky is actually Max and this is why we haven't heard from Clarky. He is too busy working on his game and getting ready for playoffs.
JK Clarky.
2.) 18 Mar 2025 21:11:44
Haha I wish! But I’ve been saying all along not to let Domi go. He will elevate his game when it matters.
3.) 19 Mar 2025 10:28:24
Domi is a notorious slow starter, for the record so is bennett for all those after Bennett but he shows up when it matters most. Hopefully that's Matthews as well this year.
4.) 19 Mar 2025 17:59:21
Gotta say I kinda like how the bottom six is currently I think they could have a defensive shutdown line then a energy line I’m more interested in what they do at the 2LW I don’t think Cowan is out of the question.
19 Feb 2025 22:25:00
I'm curious as to what's going on with Rantanen & Carolina.
I'm hearing that Rantanen may not want to sign with Carolina (even though Carolina is willing to offer around his $14M asking price).
Will Carolina seriously consider trading Mikko before the TDL? Interesting twist.
1.) 20 Feb 2025 18:38:06
If you’re Carolina you don’t have a choice they can’t spend big assets on guys and watch them walk I don’t think rantanen wants to stay because of the style that team plays.
2.) 20 Feb 2025 19:15:14
Personally, I don't want to see them sign another winger for anything higher than what Willy makes, even if it is Raantanen.
06 Feb 2025 19:32:39
Looks like you're getting your wish RLF with the line up tonight.
Knies - Matthews - Domi
Nylander- JT - Marner
McMann - Holmberg - Robertson
Patches - Kampf - Lorentz
This may work out because now opposing teams have to decide which line to match, both lines are top lines.
Plus how great would a Cozens or even Nelson look in that 3C spot??
Go Leafs Go
1.) 06 Feb 2025 20:45:18
Exactly Tags. Fix that 3C spot and that looks like a potent lineup to me.
2.) 07 Feb 2025 01:21:46
I’m sorry but I can’t stand that 2nd line. Over 34M on this line and they never play well together. Too many chiefs NO Indians. Keep trying it Craig, it doesn’t work. Sorry RLF, I agree with a lot of stuff you say but this l definitely is not one of them. I’m writing this before the game so hopefully they can make me eat my words but I doubt it.
3.) 07 Feb 2025 12:32:56
Kind of a meh game all around. I hope they stick with this for a stretch of games to see how it works. Then if they can get a 3C upgrade, they have lots of options for the bottom 6.
4.) 07 Feb 2025 16:00:32
Agreed RLF I hope they continue trying these lines for a few games. Last night was lots of PKing and Willy was fighting the puck all night. I'm sure it will get better with time.
5.) 09 Feb 2025 14:57:20
Well…? Have we had enough of that line yet? 2 perimeter players playing together that need to have the puck in their stick all the time doesn’t work. I don’t get why Chief won’t spread these freaking lines out. Matthews, Marner and Nylander all on seperate lines. They are big boys they can handle it plus they get paid accordingly to drive a line. Like we’re 50+ games in and Chief hasn’t even tried it. Always back to the well with Marner and Matthews. Drives me nuts, like make a F****N change already.
6.) 09 Feb 2025 15:56:58
If we changed lines every time the line wasn't dominant for 2 games, it would get a little ridiculous. Willy was fighting the puck for one. Put him on his own line and if he's fighting the puck, that line would be useless. I am not against spreading out lines, but issues with it is managing ice time and if the star of the line is off his game, the line will likely suck.
30 Jan 2025 01:36:52
I'm tired of the Matthews & Marner tandem at all costs.
They looked horrible tonight.
1.) 30 Jan 2025 02:04:17
All Marner does is look for Matthews as if no one else is on the ice. He has the puck in the slot, but instead of shooting, he passes to Matthews in the corner for a one timer, lol such a joke.
BTW Marner has not scored a goal on am NHL goalie since Matthews came back from injury.
2.) 30 Jan 2025 13:33:40
Hurts the productivity of whoever is in that line too. It’s like they’re an extra to just go and stand in front of the net. I was hoping Berube would be the guy to put a stop to these two once and for all. They should only be together on PP and I’d even have them in different units for a bit. It is becoming annoying watching them together. 1 in every 5 games they have a good one? Why has he literally changed every unit but this one that is so inconsistent. Willy had all the offensive chances last night and he was playing most of the night with Domi and Holmberg. Wake up Chief!
3.) 30 Jan 2025 14:32:51
I don’t get it could this be what oreilly was referring to when he said some player in Toronto will never win because Matthews and marner have to play together because it’s what they want so it has to be like for real they should of pulled the trigger this summer.
15 Mar 2025 19:17:13
Clarky I'm perfectly fine getting rid of Marner believe me. But I honestly think he will extend with the Leafs, which will put us in the same position as always. Nothing changes in Leaf land.
15 Mar 2025 13:49:49
Ckps1976
That's why I proposed Domi, plus a 2nd for Josh Doan.
IMO if Domi plays better from now on out and has a descent playoffs it might remove or reduce the sweetener to move him in the off season.
Leafs will have approx. $27.5M next season and will be extremely tight against the cap if they re-sign Marner ($13Mish), Tavares ($5Mish deferred) & Knies ($5.5Mish/ 4yrs) . That's approx. $23.5M leaving roughly $4M (10 forwards, 7 D-men & 2 goalies) .
I would assume 3 more spots would need to be filled up front (Holmberg $1.2Mish, Lorentz $1Mish), which leaves us under $2M to shop in FA, and we're not going to pick up anything of significance with that.
IMO trade Domi $3.75M, plus whatever for Doan $.925 (3RW) . Saves us $2.8M. Also, trade Kampf $2.4M for a draft pick.
The combination gives us an additional $5.2Mish, plus the $2M left over ($7.2Mish) making it possible to target Bennett if he's available.
14 Mar 2025 13:36:06
It's about time though, great game all around.
His best game since that 3 game scoring streak the 3rd line was on.
Let's see what he does going forward and into the playoffs. It would be a hige boost if he can continue playing at this level.
14 Mar 2025 01:02:27
Domi scores!
Leafs special teams are going to do them in.
And please just give Matthews a week or two off, he does not look himself. Way more important for him to take time off to heal and be ready for the playoffs.
13 Mar 2025 13:17:28
RLF I get what you're saying, but those guys all make 1/ 4 Domi's salary.
Anyways, salary aside, I just need to see more goals from him and not just points. He has to shoot more and drive to the net. That's what I want to see from him.
If that doesn't change, Leafs may have to add a draft pick in order to move him because IMO he would be wasted salary moving forward.
25 Apr 2025 18:19:23
Hip Hip Hooray!
Hopefully Leafs finish them off on Saturday and get some rest before facing Florida (more than likely) or Tampa.
23 Apr 2025 13:51:53
I would like a switch as well (either Patches or Kampf), but I think Berube doesn't change a winning line up.
Robertson is always good for one or two giveaways in the defensive zone and that penalty was just f***'n horrible.
It gave Ottawa an pulse. Even though they were controlling that 2nd period, they could not score and the Leafs can't take their foot off the gas like they did in the 2nd period.
I thought the 3rd period was fine, Ottawa had no shots until that goal almost 15 minutes in. I just had a feeling Ottawa was going to score once OEL went to the back corner and Domi was late to react.
Anyways, all great in the end. Domi redeems himself ?
On a side note:
Batherson was horrible on that shift, a Galchenyuk level giveaway and then the fly by in the defensive zone. Don't know how he could sleep last night.
Go Leafs Go!
01 Apr 2025 14:49:55
Yes boys, I'm definitely routing for a battle of Ontario and a blood bath between the 2 Florida teams.
31 Mar 2025 15:43:23
RLF I'm good with the lines as is, but would like to sample with Patches on the 3rd line as Goat2.0 suggested.
Either way, Robertson's days are numbered, no place for him in this line up. Only an injury or 2 opens the door for him IMO (plus I would only use him in home games when Leafs have last change) .
21 Mar 2025 15:00:54
Clarky
Timmins?!?! Really?
'nough said.