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19 Nov 2022 13:21:27
Kinda off the board here

Tor: sandin 1st 2022 hirvonen
Pit: dumoulin nylander

I haven't seen dumoulin name out there much but after a good start Pittsburg has continued to slide last offseason they committed to being old long term I would think this will have to change at some point enter sandin letang can groom him dumoulin is a big shutdown dman seems like a good replacement for muzzin I also threw in Alex nylander I think he could be a good project player for the leafs and the nylander brothers may gain some extra motivation playing for the same organization

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1.) 19 Nov 2022 15:07:31
I’m not understanding why a first would be necessary!


2.) 19 Nov 2022 15:42:09
Solid target. Seems like a lot for him since he is a pending UFA. Remove Nylander imo as he has no real value anyway.
As Rsears says, maybe just Sandin and Hirvonen get it done or slightly better prospect than Hirvonen.


3.) 19 Nov 2022 18:53:12
I would say it’s a given that the first would be involved I mean history shows that any top 4 d or top 6 player is valued atleast a first.


4.) 19 Nov 2022 20:18:36
Pull out Nylander and keep your first. There is a reason he’s not playing!


 

 

15 Nov 2022 12:57:25
Tor: 1st neimela
Stl: tarasanko 50% retained

Big winger who can play with bite but can also put the puck in the net was rumoured last year to wanting out of St. Louis and no is on an expiring deal I think he would be a good add for a playoff team

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1.) 15 Nov 2022 19:49:59
I personally wouldn't give up a defense prospect (we're extremely thin) for a forward. We'd also probably have to move some salary out to make this work.


2.) 16 Nov 2022 01:33:02
A 1st round pick plus Niemala for Tarasenko?
Surely you jest.
Tarasenko is used goods and will be a UFA at the end of the season.
He will be looking for term and money!
Tarasenko will be 31 in less than a month and is as big an injury risk as Matt Murray is and Petr Mrazek was!


3.) 16 Nov 2022 10:45:11
@leafs67 you’re right leafs are thin in blue line prospects but do you really think we need another small offensive defencemen on this team I’d swap neimela for sandin if need be. Also leafs don’t have to move salary out at 50% retention he would cost around 3 mil and then the leafs have 5.6 of muzzins ltir gives the leafs enough wiggle room to add another piece

@waterbuff I’m not sure if you understand what a rental player is as I seen you wrote similar comments on other post there’s no plan to resign him just need a solid player come playoff time his health is not an issue look it up other than during the c.v. he’s played over 70 games every year I’m paying a first which will be a late one so doesn’t hold a lot of value and a good prospect idk where you have been but that’s the going rate for good players.


4.) 16 Nov 2022 12:55:09
You're right, assuming Muzzin is out long term, which seems to be the case. I just think defense is our biggest area of need right now. Also Tarasenko isn't quite what he used to be.


 

 

06 Nov 2022 18:42:50
Can the leafs survive without making a trade for a goalie?

Tor: Murray
Sjs: reimer

I don't trust that Murray can stay healthy enough to play for the leafs reimer was developed in Toronto has shown he can be a decent tandem why would the sharks take on Murray is that their a rebuilding team Toronto probably has to add a usable player to this trade but I'd say it's a safer play right now

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1.) 06 Nov 2022 19:01:46
Ott was willing to dump Murray with retention, to anyone and pay to do so. Only Toronto and Buffalo stepped up saying they'll do it and he only waived for Toronto. I don't see Murray accepting this.


 

 

02 Nov 2022 03:32:43
Couple trade proposals I've been thinking about

Tor: nylander
Phi: konecny

This trade is basically 1 for 1 might be some things you could add but there's main part now only way I see this trade may not working would be if torts has a say.

Tor: holl
Sea: soucey

Here's another one holl and the leafs need to part ways Seattle was rumoured to have some interest in the expansion and is why for some reason we traded for McCann soucey big stay at home guy and can move bodies in front of the net something the leafs got rid of in boosh.

Here's the spicy one

Tor: kerfoot sandin
Mtl: Anderson

Now yes I know divisional rivals seem to not make these trades but it kinda make sense to me for both sides for the habs they have a questionable blueline right now which I think sandin would improve to me sandin hasn't fit in Toronto he's been given a lot of chances at a top 4 spot and has failed to run with it he fits the habs timeline tho kerfoot is a cap causality leafs also need a contract spot kerfoot is useful player and could be flipped as well. As for Anderson I've always liked the player he's a big power forward and plays like an a hole something Toronto has needed since kadri was traded.

Side note if i was the leafs I'd target mayfield aswell

Anderson Matthews Marner
Bunting Tavares konecny

This top six is way more nasty and way more complete in my eyes plus you could add in either Robertson or knies to this as well

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1.) 02 Nov 2022 13:51:59
Don't see the Kraken accepting that deal. Leafs have to add. as for the Habs deal I don't like giving up Sandin. when exactly has he been given a real chance? when healthy he was playing behind Muzzin on 3rd pair. I would not make the trade with him involved leafs D is just as bad as Habs.


2.) 02 Nov 2022 21:25:29
Every time muzzin has been out he has been given that spot in the top 4 it comes down to what do you value small skill or size and grit with some skill leafs have too many small skilled guys throughout the organization.


3.) 02 Nov 2022 23:43:04
I like the Philly trade.
Always been a fan of Konecny.
Never could understand the Leafs trading that 1st round pick (#24) to the Flyers.
Even Konecny said he was sure the Leafs were going to draft him as they had spoken with him so many times prior to the draft.
Instead Leafs traded the pick for two 2nd round picks that they turned into Travis Dermot and Jeremy Bracco, neither of whom are playing for the Leafs.
Trading down has always seemed like a foolish idea to me!

There is absolutely NO WAY that Seattle is trading Carson Soucy for Justin Holl.
Why would they ever do that?

I like Josh Anderson when he is playing.
Unfortunately he has an injury history comparable to Matt Murray and Petr Mrazek.
I would hate to see the Leafs give up a young defenseman (Sandin) for a player who spends as much time in the infirmary as he does on the ice.
A better target would be Boone Jenner with Columbus!

Mayfield would be an excellent target but would Lou part with him and what would the cost be?


 

 

22 Oct 2022 00:54:31
Tor: engvall mete
Ana: kulikov

Seems like this would be a good move for the leafs kulikov is signed just for this season can play both sides and put up solid numbers in minny last year engvall goes the other way him missing camp was not good for him he just looks lost out there leafs add mete simply because they need to move a contract or two as they are at their limit which makes it hard to sign or claim and players for example if one of the goalies go down the leafs right now would have no backup that's pretty risky

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1.) 23 Oct 2022 14:05:43
So the leafs could have signed hime for nothing, and on tip of that it seems no one pays any attention to what stick a player uses:

LEAFS NEED RIGHT HANDED DEFENSEMEN.


2.) 23 Oct 2022 21:41:44
Well unless you can find one that’s available without the leafs paying a kings ransom I don’t see it happening.


 

 

 

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22 Nov 2022 22:06:10
I have to laugh at what I saw from eklund today karlsson to Toronto with Chicago as the third team I mean something will have to give soon and it seems like a make or break moment for dubas

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30 Oct 2022 21:40:40
Like most leaf fans I've been pretty annoyed with this leafs team which I thought was gonna be a far better team this year that being said this team is pretty fragile right now guys going down left and right and a lot of them seem to be in their heads. A trade needs to happen on the blueline and it doesn't have to be a big splash we need the lybushkin trade from last year not a flashy guy just someone that knows their role and executes it then get liljgren back.

The other thing I have saw is the team defence the forwards are just as much to blame seems like when the puck is in the leafs possession the forwards are blowing the zone leaving no outlet They can't expect to make a 40 foot pass every time.

I'd try Robertson with Matthews and marner move bunting down and make a legit shutdown line with kampf jarnkrok and kerfoot

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1.) 31 Oct 2022 01:34:59
I'm not sure one player changes this. They all look so disinterested right now.


 

 

15 Oct 2022 21:48:03
Imo the leafs defence needs to figure it out internally to me there isn't a trade option especially this early in the year that's gonna impact the roster in any way I would try holl with Reilly holl is a good defencemen as long as the pucks not on his stick but Brodie with muzzin and keep the bottom pair the same

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1.) 15 Oct 2022 22:17:50
Holl is a good defenceman as long as he's in the press box.


2.) 18 Oct 2022 02:02:33
And you want to keep Holl why, GOAT2 DID YOU NOT SEE THAT NICE GIVE AWAY AND NOT CLEAR DOWN THE ICE!

LIKE LEAFSLIFE SAID BETTER IN THE PRESS BOX, BUT I SAY BETTER OFF IN THE MINORS OR OVERSEAS!

BUM BUT BUDDIES WITH COACH, YEAH!


 

 

16 Sep 2022 09:59:40
Long shot to make the team out of camp. who is your long shot player? Mine is Curtis Douglas
To me the fourth line center is completely open for whoever wants it I'm not gonna lie I have a soft spot for big players the last player I had high hopes for was brazeau. Douglas is different tho 6'9 200+ not afraid to mix it up and has the ability to put it in the net now I know one of his weaknesses is skating which is common in big players. I do not know what he's like in the face off circle but long story short if simmonds is not gonna be in the lineup everyday it might be best to have a kid like this in there.

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1.) 16 Sep 2022 13:20:26
Mine is Bobby McMann. Good sized Left shot that just put up a Marlies rookie record of 24 goals. Had something like 12 in his final 15 games. Goes to the net, high energy, can score and a good two way game. At 26 he is not a kid but his game keeps improving. An undrafted player that keeps overarching. Just signed a two-year entry level contract, so he is cheap and waiver exempt.


2.) 16 Sep 2022 14:08:37
I also would offer up these two names as long shots.

McMann offers energy and size, an interesting player for sure.

2 or 3 months ago I suggested the Leafs give Douglas boxing lessons (only to improve the skill that is already there), continue to work on his quickness and show him Van Remesdyke (? ) videos about net front presence and deflections.

He’s my choice as well!


 

 

14 Sep 2022 12:16:53
Was listening to Jonas seigal and Jame Mirtle on the leafs report taking about who should play on the 2nd line and a name they mentioned was engvall which got me thinking how much different is engvall to mikhyev engvall is bigger plays with more bite and has better hands where mikhyev was the better one defensively and faster. This would allow the leafs to push kerfoot down an interesting conversation none the less

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1.) 14 Sep 2022 12:48:13
I was banging the drum for Mikheyev and Engvall to be JT's wingers for much of last season. Then put Kerfoot and Willy with Kampf. I thought Mikheyev had more bite than Engvall though.
Engvall, JT and Willy may work. Although I worry because Engvall's work ethic can be inconsistent and having him play with Willy won't help that.


2.) 15 Sep 2022 17:34:34
I think both Engvall and Mikheyev were inconsistent with both frustrating me at times. I always wanted more!

Both have great speed and some ability to use the body but neither are power forwards.

Neither are top6 in my eyes; they are 3rd line contributors and solid PK players.

Keep Engvall away from Nylander for exactly those reasons.

I’m ready to give Robertson a real chance to play on L2. We NEED to see what we have. Let’s hope he stays healthy so we can find out if he’s an NHLer.

If it doesn’t work there are other Marlie options who might over-achieve. Let’s hope one or both work to our favour.


3.) 16 Sep 2022 09:53:25
I agree Robertson has to play in the top 6 to be useful but I just don’t see it yet personally and with it being so crowded I think it’s gonna be tough for him to crack this roster.


4.) 16 Sep 2022 13:06:22
Agreed that Robertson needs to be put in a position to succeed. He just turned 21, so no need to rush him and he has injury history. I think he starts in the minors and Leafs look at him as a late season or playoff call up if he stays healthy and produces in the A.


 

 

 

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24 Nov 2022 10:20:16
I mean they were never gonna let Douglas play in the nhl so it seems like a good trade we will see if Timmons gets a look.

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23 Nov 2022 15:33:17
So two injury prone dmen and a bottom six forward for two first and a top end prospect and a player…. I don’t think dubas would do this.

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23 Nov 2022 10:00:34
Should probably read again waterbuf.

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19 Nov 2022 18:53:12
I would say it’s a given that the first would be involved I mean history shows that any top 4 d or top 6 player is valued atleast a first.

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16 Nov 2022 10:47:14
In my opinion the leafs have made of better in the 2nd round then the teams they traded their first for when you have a player like Matthews and you look like a team that might be able to do something come playoff time you have to go all in every year.

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22 Nov 2022 18:04:13
I don’t get why they are such a bad 3v3 team this year they are so careless about overtime.

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09 Nov 2022 23:21:44
The leafs need two dman in my opinion they need a big stay at home dman and another two way…. To me they either need to trade sandin or send him down he doesn’t look ready I think the leafs may have rushed him.

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22 Oct 2022 05:24:10
I agree he is 24 and has already had both knees cut.

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22 Oct 2022 00:49:05
I’ve actually liked the fourth line I think it should be used more in shutdown situations but they don’t look fun to play against they finish all their checks and cycle none of them are goal scorers so don’t expect many the third line to me is gonna need to be a line that can score idk who the leafs put there but it’s been ok as for Matthews I think he’s doing too much puck retrieving rather than being in front of the net and marner needs to shoot more again right now he’s playing on the edge too much and the other team knows he’s looking to pass.

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28 Sep 2022 13:33:51
I think having kerfoot for the season may have more value than trading him he can play any situation and can play center last I check none of the additions can play center and with jt out now might be wise to
Hold on to him with that being said he may become a prime trade asset at the deadline.

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