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30 Oct 2022 00:13:24
So after Leafs clean house from Shanahan down to coaches. TRADE to follow:

Min-- Send Dumba & Foligino to Toronto
Toronto-- Send Nylander, Joey Anderson, Lilgren and their own 2023 3rd rd pick




19 Jul 2022 04:32:52
Whats Gowing In Minny Contenders or Pretenders?

Pretenders Lets do business. lol

Dreaming here of course but lets win the cup NOW mentality with this trade


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1.) 19 Jul 2022 05:44:41
Don't think you need to give up that much, but I like the trades.

2.) 19 Jul 2022 12:06:31
Leafs would be $5M over the cap. What is your next move to clear cap space?

3.) 19 Jul 2022 12:34:49
No thanks on Dumba, he's not the answer.

4.) 19 Jul 2022 15:34:34
Foligno would be a great addition though! If they would even entertain trading him and what it would take, is the big question.

5.) 20 Jul 2022 19:06:20
Leafs life they be closer to 4 you have Kerfoot obviuosly who would go that's another 3.5 so now were down inside a million Holl an ovious choice IMO so then you below the cap again. I'd clear more space and sign Hague UFA formerly of Vegas 6-6 230 defender who can skate and shoot play a lot of minutes 23 years old and Giordano project Hoe is the kid not on Dubas radar, Oh wait hes not a former Soo greyhound never mind he ant coming.



23 May 2022 07:33:41
Blow it up pretty Big. IMO anyways...

Dump Salary
Mrazek, Holl, Muzzin, Simmonds and Clifford. 13,087,500 in salary cap space right there. In return for these players who cares. re load the draft picks/ prospect pool.

LEAFS re sign (G)Campbell 4yr x 5m
ufa (G)Casey Desmith 2yr x 2M

leafs trade for Matt Dumba Min and Brandon Duhaime --MIN needs to dump Salary last year before UFA at 6M
Leafs give back Kerfoot and Sandin and picks from salary dump

leafs sign UFA Josh Manson
4yr x 3.5M
Leafs Trade Roberston Prospect or Pick for Mayfield from NYI

Leafs trade Nylander and picks ( from the salary dumps ) for JT Miller

resign RFA's Kase 2yr x1.5M
Engvall 2yrx 1.75M
UFA Mikeyhev 4yr x 2.5 ( or 3M per)
Spezza 1yr x 750K
Blackwell 1 yr 850K
Lillgren resign as 7th d man 2 yr 1.5M per

Campbell (1a) DeSmith 1(b)



ALL IN 81, 993,500 .... Pretty damn good goalie tandem

AmAZING DEFENCE... Fwds got tougher and better by swapping Nylander and Miller....

Now if only it was this easy....

And relax all its all just for rubbishs and giggles... We all know Dubas would never have the balls to be this adventerous if the math worked and all the people were willing to play


1.) 23 May 2022 17:27:13
Where you getting all the picks from it’s probably going to cost you a few just to dump the guys you mentioned.

2.) 23 May 2022 19:26:29
You need to show what you're trading guys for or else we end up with;

To Leafs Mcdavid Hyman Drais

Dump salary to aquire.

It's not really a prop.

3.) 24 May 2022 00:37:09
trading the guys out of your system for picksor prospects. as was stated who really cares what pick and where. THIS IS A PURE SALARY DUMP. only way to fix the problem Dumbass created.

4.) 24 May 2022 03:56:13
To get rid of unwanted salaries you have to find someone to take them.
To find someone to take them you must make it attractive/ sweeten the deal.
Think back to Dubas giving Carolina a 1st round pick to take one years of Marleau’s $6.25 million dollar contract (which DUBAS) forgot to make Lottery Protected.

Wishful thinking!

5.) 24 May 2022 18:13:19
Dubas did make that lottery protected if the leafs won the lottery that year Carolina would've gotten the next year's pick.




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03 Nov 2022 21:17:16
SO, is everbody sicken by the play of Holl yet or is just me.

You wonder why the PK has been a mess ( not including last) as it was decent. Look no further than Holl, Almost every goal scored on PP is his fault. Out of position every time. Sure he can block shots but what else. I'll wait.


1.) 03 Nov 2022 23:37:02
If we're looking at the PK specifically, then Marner needs to be thrown in as well.

Holl has been abysmal, but the fanbase is really going at him hard while sticking with Marner.

2.) 04 Nov 2022 11:54:55
I think Holl is a solid Pker. People are focusing on every mistake he makes right now and glossing over everything he does well. He is still a 3rd pair NHL D-man imo. He is put in a position to play over his head which isn't his fault. Put him 3rd pair and PK and he starts to get his confidence back likely.
Like Sandin. Sandin hasn't really played NHL hockey since his injury last season. He misses camp while holding out and that is on him. They put him back in right away in the top 4. Even top pair with Rielly at times. Leafs D is a mess in general at the moment with many guys having to play where they are over their heads or not developed to that point yet.

3.) 04 Nov 2022 15:59:08
@RLF solid PKer maybe a bit over stated.

I've been defending Holl lately as I believe he's a fine bottom pairing, PK D as well, but for all the reasons you stated, he's being thrown under the bus. That said, he isn't exactly stellar in any situation, more serviceable.

Everything wrong with Holl, is on Dubas, not Holl.

4.) 04 Nov 2022 20:03:20
@LL. I actually see him as a solid pker. He isn't a beast at it nor am I saying he is. It is the best thing he does imo. Agreed on the rest.



03 Nov 2022 21:15:02
Keefe still should be very much on the hot seat. His success has been the fab 4. I could coach the team with those players I'd even be succesful and trust me I'm not hockey coach.




30 Oct 2022 00:56:21
cleaning house....

Shannahan... been in way over his head since he got here.. He hired Dumbass Dubas and then allowed said dumbass to hire his buddy Shihead Keefe. The sap gets outcoached every game... He stays loyal to his exmarlie playes and it kills them time and time again.

President Doug Gilmour
GM Kevin Weekes
ASST GM Hayley Wickenhiser
( appease the equal oppotunists
ASST GM (Mentor) Dean Lombardi. (or someone similar to help Kevin Weekes. or Robb DiMaio..

HEAD COACH;;; Joel Queenville
ASST"s that's up to the coach or at least I believe it should be.




30 Oct 2022 00:39:13
So is 8 games enough to finally admit Holl is not an Nhl Defender. Never mind a top 4 ........

Leafs need to blow this up... Teamshave figured howto play the top 2 lines. the bottom 6 well they just plain suck.

Major salary needs to be shipped out. Tavares is the obvious based on age. Reilly is not worht the 7.5M contract. Marner and Matthews both over paid, All these issues point to poor coaching and management. MLSE got to clean house..


1.) 30 Oct 2022 21:32:34
anybody with an inkling of the game wouldnt need 8 games to figure Holl is a joke an NHL player.



21 Oct 2022 07:37:53
This 3rd and 4th line are weaker than last years.. Not to mention still 0 toughness.. Giordano head first into the boards and Holl just stands there like well typical Holl...

Matthews is not himself.. constantly losing the puck off his stick. Not finding the open ice... Something isn't quite right with him..

Until they address the fact they have no true 1 or 2 top defencemen but rather a 3-4 and a couple 6's and the rest 7's they arent going anywhere


1.) 21 Oct 2022 15:47:24
4th line may lead the league in hits. Not sure you can call them soft or bar.

2.) 22 Oct 2022 00:49:05
I’ve actually liked the fourth line I think it should be used more in shutdown situations but they don’t look fun to play against they finish all their checks and cycle none of them are goal scorers so don’t expect many the third line to me is gonna need to be a line that can score idk who the leafs put there but it’s been ok as for Matthews I think he’s doing too much puck retrieving rather than being in front of the net and marner needs to shoot more again right now he’s playing on the edge too much and the other team knows he’s looking to pass.

3.) 22 Oct 2022 02:36:08
The bottom 6 is probably top 10 in nhl and not this teams problem

Matthews will get going after game 13 like last 3 years
Marner once he realizes he is an adult will get back to his normal much like last year
Bunting will go as Matthews marner go
Tavares nylander Robertson will carry load till top line start playing then will decline in production significantly

Nothin to worry about. This is a team that even if players struggle have enough to get a playoff spot and once playoffs roles around it’s anyones guess

I think the D and goaltending will be the problem not the forwards

Demon out.




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24 Nov 2022 22:37:43
Way to much for Chychurn
just because they're asking for all that doesnt mean they'll get it.




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21 Jul 2022 23:02:14
Anyhting involving getting Chychurn here or Dumba form Minny Im all in.




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21 Jul 2022 23:01:09
If you're gonna play puck with the AHL coyotes you best be starting with Chychrun. Everything else from his are add ons. Very good add ons but add ons.




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21 Jul 2022 22:12:20
They lose Tkachuk It all but over. They aint getting superstars in return they gettting young stars and draft picks. maybe a decent impact player for the now. But in the short term this will seem like a one sided trade for the now. that leaves a goalie with 4 years reamining at 6M per at age 32 already your now top 2 fwds are making over 5M at ages 33-34 one who will be a ufa at years end other the year after that. you have 2 other fwds at 30 making over 4M. one is making 4.9 and signed until hes 37 ouch
D looks good from an age and salary pov Tanev at 4.5 for next 2 are not great but that's it. ALL these pieces are movable. TANK TANK TANK unload all these contracts load up the cupboards with number 1 picks from all over and prospects anf 2nd round picks and TANK TANK TANK and get Bedard Be a champion by 2026.





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03 Nov 2022 21:12:46
If you don't think that Keefe is very much involved on trades well that's not correct.




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30 Oct 2022 21:32:34
anybody with an inkling of the game wouldnt need 8 games to figure Holl is a joke an NHL player.




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30 Oct 2022 21:30:33
Baer went for a 5th rounder plus another player sent to VCR. How sad is Dubas.




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30 Oct 2022 00:58:00
If I had to put on a Coyote uniform every night I'd try to be as injured as possible to.




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21 Oct 2022 07:32:50
Muzzin will never play a game again. Leafs could have traded him but didnt NOW stuck with him retirig and getting nothing except cap relief which is better than nothing.