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25 Jul 2024 00:11:46
Leafs trade
Marner 10.9mill 1 year
Liljegren 3mill 2 years
Robertson RFA
2026 1st round pick
13.9mill plus Robertson RFA
Utah trades
Crouse 4.3mill 3 years
Marino 4.4mill 3 years
Hayton 2.65mill 2 years RFA
Guenther 894k 1 year RFA
12.245 mill total
New lines
Knies Matthews Domi
Crouse Tavares Nylander
McMann Hayton Guenther
Dewar Kampf Jarnkrok
Reilly Tanev
McCabe Marino
OEL Benoit
OR really mix and match the lineup in different ways. Pretty much anyone can move up or down.
Of course lot of IFs because of NMC etc but seems fair.
Thoughts?
Who adds?
1.) 25 Jul 2024 09:33:45
Horrible for leafs.
2.) 25 Jul 2024 12:18:18
Leafs keep the 1st at a minimum.
3.) 26 Jul 2024 00:43:50
Marner isn’t going anywhere.
4.) 26 Jul 2024 13:32:08
And yes, marner isn’t being traded.
5.) 26 Jul 2024 22:49:00
Cool, well thanks for the great feed back.
09 Jun 2024 21:43:47
Looking at this years draft, the amount of bigger RHD available late in the first or early in the second is something that cannot be overlooked. I look at the Rasmus Sandin trade at last years deadline and wonder, is it time to move Liljegren?
I had really hoped he would have progressed into a top4 dman by now. He has shown flashes of brilliance at times over the last few seasons, but inconsistencies and injury have held him back. This year for me was the make or break season and it just wasn't there.
I still believe he has value, and could return a late first or early second round pick from a rebuilding team with a younger core. The Ducks, Blues, Kraken, Utah and Sabres all fit the age range (somewhat). The Sharks and Blackhawks are to early in their rebuilds but could still have interest. Most of the teams mentioned have multiple 1st and 2nd round picks.
With name like Carter Yakemchuk and Adam Jircek possibly dropping to the late teen early 20s, as well as names like E.J. Emery, Charlie Elick, and Ben Danford going anywhere from late 1st to mid 2nd .
This could be the year to fix the right side of the defense, maybe not for next year (obviously) but for years to come. Sign UFAs to 3-5 year deals (carefully) and allow them to develop. #1 RHD aren't signed as UFAs (or even in a Marner trade LOL), they're drafted and developed.
Sorry for rambling, just wondering other people's thoughts?
1.) 10 Jun 2024 01:09:41
Agree wholeheartedly that Leafs need to target a RHD like Charlie Elick, Dominik Badinka, EJ Emery etc with the #23 pick.
I’m not sure a late 1st/ early 2nd round pick then waiting three years for the player to make the Leafs is the right way to handle the Liljegren situation.
I would either rather trade him or Liljegren as a part of a package to acquire a player that can step into Leafs lineup this season and improve the team.
13 May 2024 22:58:30
Read this on a Minnesota Wild fansite, thought it was funny.
Leafs trade Marner extension included (they suggested 7 years @ 12.75 mill)(I thought Minny was cap strapped)
Wild trade
Matt Boldy (23 year old LW powerforward, who scored 31 & 29 goals the last 2 years) signed 6yrs more @ 7 mill
Filip Gustafson ( who didn't have the best year but .899 and 3.02 gaa but the year before. 931 & 2.01 gaa
And a .921 in the playoffs)
Riley Heidt (19 yrs old 5`10" center just put up 117 points in 66 gms in the WHL)
Just saying if other teams GM'S are like some in their fan bases the Leafs could make out like bandits
Thoughts?
1.) 14 May 2024 14:17:22
Leafs should take the deal imo.
2.) 15 May 2024 00:29:09
If Minny was willing to do that, I'd throw a parade. Funny how other teams view players.
06 May 2024 01:32:12
Can't see it happening but would love to see this
Tor trades Marner 10.9 mill 1 yr
Philly trades
Konecny 5.5 mill 1 yr
Farabee 5 mill 4 yrs
Farabee is said to getting moved this summer and Konecny has 1 year remaining on his contract same as Marner.
Philly is getting the best player in the deal. Also the cap hits combined almost line up. Toronto likely has to add to deal.
Not sure if Philly is in full rebuild cause they just extended 25 year old Owen Tippett. Marner is 27 same as Konecny and they were talking about extending him so may have interest.
The real question though is would Marner waive to go to Philly and play under Torts.
Thoughts? Again can't see this happening but...
1.) 06 May 2024 02:50:34
To me, the biggest issue is Torts. You bring in Torts because you want to play a certain style, and Mitch just isn't it.
Value is probably at least close though.
2.) 06 May 2024 12:40:17
Torts doesn’t like soft players
I believe Nashville is the trade target and marner would wave his no move clause.
3.) 06 May 2024 12:48:43
I think your right that Philly would probably want an extension in place and are they willing to give Marner the possible $12M+ he may want.
4.) 06 May 2024 22:26:08
The more I think about it, having Marner getting slapped around by Torts may be the best thing for him.
06 Apr 2024 03:06:31
Jesperi kotkaniemi is said to be bought out in the offseason. This would cost the team 835k per year for 12 years totalling 10.2 mill.
Just putting it out there but if the Canes were willing the retain 1.52 mill per year it would save them 900k total and 6 years of cap hit.
Just asking would kotkaniemi at 3.3 mill for 6 years be of any interest or best to stay away.
He will be 24 at the beginning of next season, plays C/LW, decent face-off percent, decent possession numbers (albeit against weaker competition) and could obviously use a change of scenery
Thoughts?
1.) 06 Apr 2024 12:32:02
I like this add.
He has a nice mix of skill and size and as you state can play wing or center.
He’s still young with upside.
2.) 06 Apr 2024 15:26:04
Personally, why not just let the Canes buy him out and then offer him a show me deal instead of being locked on for 6 years at $3.3M?
I still like Kotkaniemi. I think Carolina's style of play doesn't suit him. If they are truly going to buy him out, I would rather wait it out and try and sign him for free in the off-season. Should be able to get him for less than the $3.3M if his stock has fallen so much.
3.) 06 Apr 2024 16:25:32
KK is a real tough one for me. Especially after the PLD trade and all the nonsense LAK are dealing with now.
4.) 06 Apr 2024 16:48:25
3.3 puts hime fair value for a 3LC that can play up on the wings if needed. I think he would actually do exceptionally well with marner on RW and mcmann on LW.
domi matthews bertuzzi
knies tavares nylander
mcmann kotkaniemi marner
holmberg kampf reaves
robertson becomes expendable to fill that much needed 1RHD.
now looking at the draft, leafs are projecting to be in the 20-24 range with their pick. Dean Letourneau (F) is standing out a bit. hes hard to read, but he had one hell of a solid year in the U18 AAA. hes 6'7 right handed center. hes cimmited to boston college for next year so he will have time to develop in one of the top NCAA hockey schools. its just a little to track his numbers, but hes got a better ppg in that league than joe sakic did, but not quite where the legends like ray whitney, patrick marleau, or ron francis.
5.) 06 Apr 2024 20:11:24
@Heenklin he's still going to need 2-5 years to develop if drafted. That's the big thing.
6.) 06 Apr 2024 22:43:13
Not trying to speak for him but I think Hrenklin was meaning Robertson could be moved out in a package to aquire a 1RD as well as who could be drafted with the 1st if kept.
Not trying to step on any toes, sorry if I am mistaken.
7.) 07 Apr 2024 00:50:38
Yes jmaxx, dean was a long term investment similar to knies. Robertson alone won't get what we need, but would be part of a larger package.
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21 Jul 2024 02:48:31
Been using puckpedia since capfriendly was bought by Ovi's handlers and have found it similar but different.
For instance instead of using the acronym NMC for No Movement Clause the use a boat anchor graphic (f@#&ing hilarious).
Has anybody else found any quirky or funny aspects to puckpedia they found interesting?
1.) 22 Jul 2024 20:32:53
They tell a lot about the contract except waiver exempt. I find that odd.
14 Jul 2024 01:13:34
Just to change it up, what is everyone's pick for best and worst signings from free agency?
My picks
Best
Sean Walker-Carolina
5 Years 3.6 mill
Worst
Joel Edmondson-Los Angeles
4 Years 3.85 Jill
Carolina does a good job replacing Pesce but cheaper.
L.A. already has Mikey Anderson and Vald Gavrikov on the left side so Edmondson is either playing the right or their paying a bottom pair defenceman 3.85 mill lol (see OEL yikes)
What are your best/worst?
1.) 14 Jul 2024 04:52:25
I clicked capfriendly 5 times doing this lol
Best Matt Roy 5.75.
Worst. Stamkos 8
That Stamkos contact is the worst in the NHL. I don't understand it at all.
2.) 14 Jul 2024 06:04:31
LL I keep doing the same as well, lol.
Best signing
Arvidsson $4M/ 2yrs
I've always liked this guy
Worst signing
I agree with JMaxx
Edmundson & I would also add Monahan.
3.) 14 Jul 2024 21:29:47
Best signing - I like roslovic
Worst - if tanev stays healthy it could be awful.
4.) 14 Jul 2024 22:50:48
@Randy if Tanev stays healthy wouldn't that make it better?
5.) 15 Jul 2024 13:50:56
Best signing
Slavin
Worst
Stephenson
I don’t like Carolina’s offseason I thought they got considerably worse.
6.) 15 Jul 2024 20:57:26
@Goat nice pick on Slavin. I change my answer to Slavin and make Roy a close second.
I'm a huge Slavin fan. Should have won at least one Norris by now.
7.) 16 Jul 2024 20:31:19
Slavin technically re-signed with his own team. I don't think there was ever any intention for him leaving Carolina, but a great deal none the less.
09 Jun 2024 22:44:00
WELL rubbish ...
The Washington Capitals bought capfriendly... huh
1.) 10 Jun 2024 01:13:49
Huh. that not what I wrote.
2.) 10 Jun 2024 01:22:37
The trades on here are going to start to ignore cap even more.
3.) 10 Jun 2024 09:38:59
I don't like it either. Capfriendly was the best site of its kind. Onto Puckpedia I guess.
30 May 2024 01:03:33
Not sure who Leafs target as UFAs, all I care about is NMC and NTC. They can't keep handing them out like candy.
I mean David Kampf and Calle Jarnkrok both have 10 team NTC.
Especially when your signing Ufas that are 28-29 years old to longer term ( because they want it) , the contracts should be constructed so the last few years have no protection.
1.) 30 May 2024 15:45:38
I agree with what you're saying, especially for non-star player's.
Maybe they should limit the NMC/ NTC to first half of term & second half should either be a M-NTC maxed out at 7 teams or no restrictions all together.
2.) 31 May 2024 21:07:39
I agree Jmaxx. that's the one thing that bothered me more than anything about Nylanders contract. A full NMC for 8 years is dumb. He could turn into a more expensive Huberdeau by next year and we pay that for 8 years?
07 May 2024 23:07:20
Just putting this out there.
Check out some of the other fan sites posts about possible Marner trades. Running hot and cold, but a lot of fan bases are salivating at the ideal of adding him.
Some of the proposals are wild.
1.) 08 May 2024 02:33:58
That's because they haven't watched him for 8 years. Where ever he goes, he's going to avoid physical contact like the plague, and he won't get the same recognition defensively. He's extremely overrated in many aspects by Leafs media.
2.) 08 May 2024 13:21:36
Likely as LL said, they don't watch him all the time and have no idea he probably wants $12M+ on his next deal. If you look at the skill and the point totals, Marner is a very attractive asset to add. They likely don't know about the whining on the ice, the contract demands in the past and likely future demands and that he struggles to create in tight games because he doesn't want to fight through traffic to get to the net. Ironically, the goal he did score this playoffs, he fought through traffic and got to the net.
26 Jul 2024 22:49:00
Cool, well thanks for the great feed back.
05 Jul 2024 05:09:01
I agree with Hrenklin Bjugstad would be a good target. And Utah (gotta get used to that) has a lot of center depth.
04 Jul 2024 23:01:36
I do see them trying to acquire Doan, but agreed the Leafs add. Would also like to see them go after McGroarty. Not sure of the package, but they need young players on ELCs to fill out the lineup with more skill.
04 Jul 2024 22:50:21
I like it for both teams. Laughton 3rd line center with Domi and Jarnkrok sounds decent. Domi is better on the draw, but Laughton is better defensively. It's also long enough for the younger guys to develop.
For Philly (who had Travis Sanheim playing on his off-side most of the year) they add a much needed right shot defenceman who is still young enough to fit their window.
Pairs could be
Sanheim Drysdale
York Liljegren
Seeler Ristolainen
Zamula Johnson
Allows them to shelter Risto to pump his numbers enough to dump his contract.
Of course this depends on Hakenpaa's status. If he is as banged up as people think then better to hang on to Liljegren, at least for the time being.
04 Jul 2024 20:39:55
If you look at Tyler Johnson numbers, he hasn't been used as a center in a few years. At this point I'm not sure why he's listed as one.
17 Jul 2024 22:37:22
My one move would be to make the Leafs a PWHL expansion team.
Just cause.
10 Jun 2024 01:13:49
Huh. that not what I wrote.
13 May 2024 23:11:54
I think the Hunters have a pretty good thing going in London.
I believe Dale coached the Caps for a year or two, before Barry Trotz came in and won a cup. Dale went back to junior because and I quote " teenagers are easier to coach than millionaires "
Also Mark was pretty pissed ( and rightfully so) when he lost out on the Leafs GM job to some guy, I think his name was Kyle something.
13 Apr 2024 01:16:03
Would a Robertson for Barron be fair, both RFAs at seasons end?
12 Apr 2024 21:13:23
Sorry just read not a super high-end talent.