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18 Mar 2024 15:13:09
Sign Montour & Tanev as UFA's, let Bertuzzi, Domi, Brodie & Samsonov walk as UFA's

Knies Matthews Marner
Robertson Tavares Nylander
Jarncrock Minten Cowan
McMann Kampf Holmberg

Reilly Tanev
McCabe Montour
Benoit Timmins

Woll Hildeby


1.) 19 Mar 2024 18:53:05
Minten and Cowan may or may not be ready, and your forward group has zero grit aside from Knies. Robertson is not a second line player in the NHL.



09 Mar 2024 20:58:03
Leafs seldom give their rookies a 100 games to find their way, often trading them before they mature into an everyday player. Makes one wonder if even a Kucherov would have gotten a shot in Toronto, based on an unimpressive first season maybe not. Two examples of bad Leaf rookie trades.

Marchment for Malgin


Verhaeghe as part of the Grabner deal


Knies Matthews Marner
Marchment Verhaeghe Nylander
McMann Tavares Jarncrock


1.) 09 Mar 2024 22:31:56
Verhage was an ECHL write off. I wouldn't hold that against anyone.

Marchment for Malgin never made sense. I don't get that one at all.

2.) 09 Mar 2024 23:09:20
Verhaege needed a lot of time to develop until he was about. 24 years old. The drafting team doesn’t have that much time on a player. Look Robertson he is getting there but still needs more time but Carter was just too slow. But when he got his game going to took off.

3.) 10 Mar 2024 01:53:10
Marchment for Malgin was such a typical Dubas mistake!
Like protecting Justin Holl in the expansion draft and losing Jarred McCann.

4.) 10 Mar 2024 03:07:38
Lou came to Toronto to take over from a trigger happy Dubas. From May to July he did a draft and made 6 trades. Kessel was the headliner along with mckegg and 4 AHL players and a 1st 2nd 4th 7th. Hyman and kapanen 3 fringe nhl players and an AHL player 1st 2 2nds 2 3rds.
That’s not all though he went on a signing spree. 3 ELC hyman being one of them, then resigned 5 RFA as Kadri was 1 of them. He then signed 5 UFA all OK players but no big fish.
Lou comes in sees the he has 2 standard contract spots are remaining and signs marner. Marners and all he and all contracted jr eligible players are standard contract until they get cut. He needed to still sign bernier so now they full and knowing he came here for a quick rebuild but what he saw in training camp bothered him. He knew he had to send marner back to jrs but beck and verhaeghe just weren’t showing Lou enough to warrant marner leaving so he made a decision to trade 5 guys he anticipated making the team but had bad camps for a proven scorer in grabner to offset the production lost in Kessel.
Once the deal was done marner was sent back to London and now 4 open contract spots. He signs bought out Brad Boyes hoping he can net a few while getting paid peanuts. Then signs Andrew campbell for depth.

So he misjudged 1 of the 5 guys. Lou expected all 5 to at least challenge but nylander brown Hyman kapanen and marner Valiev Dermott all outplayed the 4 skaters dealt and Gibson could even get in the marlie conversation as sparks was takin over and reimer just wasn’t challenged . So Lou made the deal

Heck a few months later he did it again dealing phaneuf

Every move had a reason as the plan was to ice nhl players while hoping to tank but not open long showing it. Then have the the marlies develop the young guys and keep marner Dermott in jrs.

Snow never saw verhaghe potential either.
I mean yeah he could have easily kept him sent marner home or simply sent him to marlies let him grow with this group but he didn’t.

Say marner or verheghe makes team if Lou never makes trade. Is it possible leafs win a few extra games due to it. Oh yeah imagine that extra few points causes 1 point more Edmonton to win lottery and Matthews mcdavid driaseidl on my.

Turns out sept 17 is important. 1st Matthews was born in it and 2nd he missed 2015 draft eligability by 1 day due to 16th is cutoff and 3 Lou traded for grabner on that date in 2015 to get marner back to jr which caused the guy celebrating his 18th then 1 year later legally drinking after going 1

So if u wanna keep bringing up how bad Lou missed the boat I guess I counter with Matthews wouldn't be a leaf without that trade

September 17th the date that prevented him going to Buffalo or Arizona. The date that started lous hush hush quest for last and the date that we will all celebrate one if the franchises all time best.



06 Feb 2024 23:33:26
Giroux 6.5 million, Tarasenko 5 & Chychurin 4.6 to Toronto for Marner 10.9, Niemela, Kokkonen, Minten, Steeves, Jarncrock 2.1 & a 1st Rd pick in 2024. With Ottawa eating half of Tarasenko contract.

Brodie 5 & a pick or picks to offload his contract

Lyubushkin 2.75 to Toronto for a 2nd & 3rd pick in 2024

Knies Matthews Nylander
Bertuzzi Tavares Tarasenko
Robertson Giroux Domi
Holmberg Kampf Gregor

Reilly Liljegren
Chychurin McCabe
Giordano Lyubushkin

Samsonov Woll


* Leafs would have Timmins & Lagesson as depth on defense.


1.) 07 Feb 2024 11:35:02
I love your second line of Bertuzzi-Tavares-Tarasenko

It will become a 4th line in 2 years!



06 Feb 2024 14:49:56
Gaudreau 9.75 million, Jenner 3.75 & Provorov 4.25 to Toronto for Marner 10.9, Robertson 800K, Niemela, Steeves, Hirvonen & a 1st pick in 2024 & 2026. With Columbus eating 25 % of Gaudreau contract. Cap hit to the Leafs approx. 7.4 million for Gaudreau + 8 for Jenner & Provorov = 15.4 -5 Brodie = 10.4 million. Making Leafs cap compliant by approx. 1.3 million.

Brodie & pick to unload his contract

Gaudreau Matthews Jarncrock
Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander
Knies Jenner Domi
Holmberg Kampf Gregor

Reilly Liljegren
Provorov McCabe
Giordano Timmins

Samsonov Woll



1.) 07 Feb 2024 00:48:31
From what I’m reading u this marner would do this.



05 Feb 2024 20:31:38
Eberle, Tolvanen & Dünn to Toronto for Märner, Minten, Niemela, Steeves, Robertson & a 1st Rd pick in 2024. With Seattle eating half of Eberle contract.

Carlson To Toronto for Liljegren, Kokkonen, Jarncrock, Hirvonen & a 1st Rd pick in 2026.

Samsonov traded or put on waivers

Knies Matthews Nylander
Bertuzzi Tavares Tolvanen
Robertson Domi Eberle
Holmberg Kampf Gregor

Reilly Carlson
McCabe Dunn
Giordano Timmins

Woll Jones


1.) 05 Feb 2024 22:01:41
Very potent d core

Projected points

Reilly 70+
Dunn 60+
Carlson 50+
McCabe 30+.

2.) 05 Feb 2024 23:22:07
My goodness horsehead please stop ?‍♂️?‍♂️.

3.) 06 Feb 2024 12:10:06
Truly ridiculous ??.

4.) 06 Feb 2024 15:37:39
Do you want a Cup, big changes are needed.

5.) 06 Feb 2024 22:19:58
We dont have 2 Robertsons.




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25 Jan 2024 15:04:49
Reaves escapes Alcatraz ( Robidas Island), Joffrey Lupul is pissed as he was never able to escape.


1.) 25 Jan 2024 22:00:09
Reaves signed his one way ticket out of Toronto with that interview.

I don't see him on this team for long now.



27 Oct 2023 22:55:21
Send Samsonov down to the minors, sign Justin Trudeau as a UFA. Give Justin the old equipment of Jacques Plante including the marked up well used mask. Sell the TV rights globally for every game Trudeau starts, tie him to the posts if you have too & encourage players to blast the puck especially at his head. Encourage players to run him Kreider style skates first, or go full Avery mode but whack him upside his hollow head for good measure. Next to winning a Cup that would truly be entertaining, people might dole out a few extra dollars as a carbon tax bonus for Justin the diprubbish that likes to tax the air. Organize a bench clearing brawl for fun with the opposition netminder pummeling the rubbish out of dickhead Trudeau at centre ice, could hold an auction amongst goalies as to whom gets that honour. Now that's entertainment!


1.) 28 Oct 2023 00:28:44
Now THAT I would pay to see. lol.

2.) 28 Oct 2023 00:36:12
I'll start the bidding at 1000$ to shoot 10 pucks at intermission.

3.) 28 Oct 2023 13:28:07
Horseshack, are you Kennedy?
Lovely story!,



20 Oct 2023 23:33:14
McDavid & Draisaitl to Toronto for Brodie, Jarncrock, Samsonov, Kampf, Klingberg, Robertson, Minten, Hirvonen, Voit & a 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th rd pick in 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027 & 2028. None of the acquired 1st Rd picks are lottery protected. During that time period any pending Toronto UFA's Edmonton can approach at seasons end, & before the start of free agency & speak too as per part of trade agreement. Edmonton eats half of McDavid & Draisaitl contracts.

Leafs sign Kane as a UFA

Bertuzzi Matthews Märner
Tavares McDavid Nylander
Knies Draisaitl Kane
Gregor Domi Reaves

Reilly Timmins
McCabe Liljegren
Giordano Benoit

Woll Jones

Leafs go nuclear on offense, Leafs win a Cup or two. Edmonton has the draft capital to build a team, UFA's like Marner, Nylander, McDavid & Draisaitl Edmonton can make a pitch prior to them becoming unrestricted free agents.

3 Centres all 50+ goals ? A 1st & 2nd PP that will be the best in the league by many country miles. 4 + players with a 100 pts.

So they win 7, 8 or 9 goals for to 4, 5, 6 goals against most nights, a win is a win.

Edmonton does this deal it is to good not too.


1.) 21 Oct 2023 05:21:51
I have a strong feeling, Joyland declines lol.



27 Aug 2023 02:46:20
Brodie 5 million, Nylander 7, Jarncrock 2.1, Niemela & a 1st Rd pick in 2025 to NYR for Kakko 2.1, Othmann ELC & Trouba 8. Rangers can flip Brodie or Jarncrock for picks & or prospects. Leafs save approx. 3 million & are cap compliant.

Knies Matthews Marner
Bertuzzi Tavares Kakko
Robertson Domi Othmann
Holmberg Kampf Reaves

Reilly Trouba
McCabe Klingberg
Giordano Liljegren

Samsonov Woll




14 Jul 2023 11:37:14
If Leafs are to win a Nylander trade, it will be in years 2, 3, 4 & 5. Doing so by adding a Brandt Clarke, Jiricek or a high high level D prospect needing 1-2 yrs to carve out a path then reaching the top 4. A player with offensive upside but also the defensive skillset & size, to hit & clear the front of the net. Forward players having not yet lived up to projections like a Byfield, Kakko, Laine, etc. are what you take back hoping your development system, & team bring out the best in that individual. Laine contract not great but retention for a building organization like Columbus, can be coerced with prospects & picks. If Leafs are truly all in that is the path forward, Bertuzzi & Domi a step in the right direction. Re-signing Samsonov & contract extension for Matthews, would also be helpful. Reeves adds a security blanket in that you harrass star players, Payback will be a bitch, even at 36 tangling with Reeves extremely unpleasant for anyone league wide ! Still requiring the big boy pants as Reeves hits hard, thus why Lucic after signing in Boston commented on the acquisition to Treliving by text. Lucic and everyone in the Eastern Conference, was hoping Reeves would be playing in the Western Conference this season. Lol
Opposing coaches pregame circle Reeves, Bertuzzi & Domis mug shots on the board, & say 4 words to their team. " Keep your head up "

* Othmann though a forward a gem of a forward prospect with the NYR worthy of consideration in a Nylander trade though not a preferred D man.





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06 Feb 2024 15:37:39
Do you want a Cup, big changes are needed.




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05 Feb 2024 22:01:41
Very potent d core

Projected points

Reilly 70+
Dunn 60+
Carlson 50+
McCabe 30+.




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05 Feb 2024 21:48:53
Some people may say that but not GM's & NHL players, they know that Zuccarello is one of the most underrated players in the league. Still a very productive skilled player, & on occassion still a game breaker as is a Henrique. That is big in the playoffs. Bogosian not a big piece but defense you pay a premium to acquire, those player's not as readily available as a top or bottom 6 forward. You have to give up something to get something.




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05 Feb 2024 17:16:13
All for fun we are all Leaf & hockey fans, people can say what they will who cares

I do think this team needs a shake up Cliff Fletcher style with multiple players involved, to bolster firstly the defense and also the bottom 6 forward group.




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27 Jan 2024 18:34:23
Oh & Strome jerseys forgot that one lol.





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