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31 Dec 2023 21:47:28
Leafs are either all in or they’re not. If they are that means they’re willing to sacrifice top prospects. Packages for Trenin, Lauzon and Sarros; or Konecny, Seeler and Hart will have to include Cowan and/ or Minten, niemiela, and Nylander.


1.) 31 Dec 2023 23:14:11
I wouldn't bother going all-in. Built in re-tool this off season. Move Willy for something with term and look towards next season.



14 Nov 2023 22:28:29
Not that I think Nylander gets traded but….

Nylander, Brodie, Klingberg and Minten to Flames for Lindholm, Tanev, Hanifan, and zadorov.

And of course sign Kane lol.




10 Nov 2023 13:11:10
I’ll throw out a Horseshak/ Kennedy trade for fun. Leafs go all in.

Samsonov, marner, Klingberg, niemela, Minten, steeves, Robertson, Timmins 1st in 2024 and 2025 to Flames

Markstrom, lindholm, Tanev and Hanifan to Leafs. Cgy retains 25% on Markstrom.


1.) 10 Nov 2023 14:56:16
You forgot to sign Kane. lol.

2.) 10 Nov 2023 18:51:15
Haha nice one Bob Mackin.

3.) 10 Nov 2023 19:43:33
Yes Kane, 7 years at the league minimum. And yes that’s a joke people.

4.) 10 Nov 2023 19:55:35
But he remembered the retention.



05 Nov 2023 00:56:28
Klingberg, domi, Reaves to Arizona for a second round pick. Fire Keefe and hire Boudreau.


1.) 05 Nov 2023 03:33:37
I don't think Reaves 8s meant foe this team/ coach as currently constructed.

Reaves was hitting and fighting to start the season, then promptly dropped off, and decided he needs to play hockey.

Klingberg I'd pay to get rid of.

2.) 05 Nov 2023 03:42:27
Klingberg, Domi, Reaves, Bertuzzi to anyone who will take them and give them a 1st round pick for taking them.
Unfortunately I do not think it will be so easy to rid Leafs of all of Treliving’s mistakes.

3.) 05 Nov 2023 13:38:44
Yeah I’m not liking any of those acquisitions.

I’m starting to question Treliving for his choices.

Granted hindsight is 20/ 20 but then I start to review his Calgary history and see a disturbing pattern.

It was a tough situation for sure when Gaudreau and Tkachuk wanted out so his hand was forced but his deals for both Kadri and Huberdeau were poorly constructed.

He learned a bit from that with 3 one-year deals with the Leafs.

I do like his attempt to secure players with snot and skill but all his choices are not working. Again hindsight on my part.

So he needs to get to work now, don’t wait because this division has a lot of playoff potential teams, and remedy the problems: D first, bottom6 and snot as he calls it.

Can’t trade Samsonov yet either, nor can he trade Nylander. Marner is a better choice.

Jarnkrok is not an L1 or L2 player. He adds some value in an L3/ 4 and PK role.

Kampf is a 4C and has PK skill, that’s it!

Knies works hard but hasn’t yet reached expectations. This may only happen next year.

And I’m okay with replacing Keefe now.

4.) 05 Nov 2023 15:50:11
So here’s an example of a skill a leader needs to have.

That is being able to quickly weigh many possibilities and be able to see how one decision might impact another.

In Treliving’s due diligence he chooses Bertuzzi over the “devil-you-know” Bunting.

He obviously chose Bertuzzi who had one very good stretch over the last three years and signed him to a $5.5m! Boston smartly decided they couldn’t resign him. Glad it’s only for one year, his big lesson after the Huberdeau and Kadri deals.

In the last three years Bunting has played 172 games and has scored 49g and 71a versus Bertuzzi’s 61 games, 10g and 23a.

Bunting signs a 3-year deal at $4.5m.

Did he even speak to him or his agents.

Unfortunately changing Treliving now will change very little.

So he needs to get to work?

5.) 06 Nov 2023 07:47:28
Send Arizona a 3rd round pick (Leafs do not have a 2nd round pick in 2024)
For taking any one of Klingberg, Domi or Reaves.
Send them our first round pick for taking all 3.



02 Nov 2023 20:10:05
To Vancouver: Marner and domi
To Toronto: Boeser, Garland, 2nd

Matthews, Garland, Boeser
Tavares, Knies, Nylander.


1.) 02 Nov 2023 23:56:54
@bob. can't trade Marner. he has a NMC. doubt he agrees to leave Leafs and his buddy Matthews. how else would he get HIS next big payday.

2.) 03 Nov 2023 11:35:18
I can't imagine the Leafs making this deal. Yes, Boeser is off to a hot start this season, but he is inconsistent with his effort typically and it's not like he brings physicality otherwise. Garland is overpaid and down to about 4th line minutes this year and 3 years left at $5M per to boot, where Domi is on a 1 year deal. Doesn't seem like the Leafs are getting much to take on Garland.

3.) 04 Nov 2023 00:38:27
A little humor is always welcome.




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17 Jan 2024 16:34:20
Marner as delusional as ever. They are a “great team”…. are you really Mitch? Keefe bragging about how well they played against Anaheim and SJ…. awesome. Anyone who thinks Keefe is not a huge part of the problem is nuts. No D zone structure. No heart. Outworked almost every game . This screams Craig Berube. ASAP. Leafs legit will be out of a playoff spot when western trip is over.


1.) 17 Jan 2024 18:21:27
What do you think they're going to say? It's hockey. They always give "hockey answers"

Let's get back to basics
We're a better team than we're showing
Having to show up on time

Blah blah blah.

It's all these guys have. No one gets mad at all.



14 Jan 2024 02:36:19
Was just like a playoff game tonight…. Core 4 did nothing . I still believe Keefe has to go asap.


1.) 14 Jan 2024 05:46:34
Man he makes some bone head decisions. When does putting those three together ever work? Run two lines in the 3rd period like you don’t have a back to back and in the busiest part of the schedule? Maybe he finally learn that he needs to spread around the lines but probably not.

2.) 14 Jan 2024 12:12:15
Keefe should have been fired after the Montreal series, simple as that.

3.) 14 Jan 2024 15:05:14
Agree with Tags. After that meltdown against MTL you fire the entire coaching staff+Dubas and Shanny, then move Marner and Possibly Willy as well. But, it is what it is now.



28 Nov 2023 13:12:06
Thankfully the Kane talk is over. He was never coming to Toronto and that’s a good thing. So much for him allegedly wanting to go to a contender. lol.

Leafs need to fire Keefe immediately. Hire Gallant. Then trade for two D and a goalie. Break the bank if you can get players with a year or two left on contracts. Overwhelm the flyers with an offer that gets you Hart and Walker, plus.


1.) 28 Nov 2023 20:15:13
I really don’t think a cow chi infront change does much for this team whoever comes in the door answers to shanny and he tells them what to do idk how it’s not obvious by now.



26 Nov 2023 13:52:48
Leaf needs: two D, goalie, new coach.


1.) 26 Nov 2023 15:04:33
Which goalie exactly?

Everyone wants a goalie if you haven't noticed. Only maybe 5 goalies are consistently good enough to win a cup. It's about a goalie getting jot at the right time.

Hell boy isn't available
Vassy isn't available
Sorokin isn't available
Saros isn't available
Shesterkin isn't available

Can you name another one that you think is an upgrade, that is available?

2D I agree on, but that's more a deadline deal coming. I'm almost certain Zadorov will be a Leaf.



07 Nov 2023 00:19:01
I think they’ve established that Knies belongs with Matthews and Marner lol.


1.) 07 Nov 2023 01:09:32
I'm honestly shocked it took this long. We have all said Knies should be on the top line since the 3rd game.

2.) 07 Nov 2023 03:09:03
Knies scored a goal and had 2 assists on top line tonight. I smell another line shuffle from Keefe to fix that. he'll put him back on third line by next game. Right Keefe?

3.) 07 Nov 2023 13:34:10
Good one LL.

4.) 07 Nov 2023 13:34:33
Good one Loxley.

5.) 07 Nov 2023 18:17:54
@LL. I think we have been saying it since he started with them back in last season's playoffs against Tampa. LOL.

6.) 08 Nov 2023 02:30:20
I had him on my top line at the start of training camp. Had Bert with JT and Willy and then Jarnkrok Domi and Kampf.

7.) 08 Nov 2023 13:59:16
@RLF I had Knies moving up there at some point. maybe after Bertuzzieventyally got hurt. Domi I had on second line only to cover up any defensive deficiencies in his game. fid not want him as top guy in 3rd line. so by default that left Knies and Minten who seemed to gel on third. but with Minten gone Knies is right where he should be.




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23 Feb 2024 11:03:25
Huge overpay by Leafs.




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22 Feb 2024 21:53:26
Good target but I’d still look for one more D. Benoit puts out great effort but he’s not a second pairing guy.




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22 Feb 2024 18:43:48
Trading Marner, while I’m not necessarily against it, is risky. You need a huge return, and you better consider the effect it’ll have on Matthews, on and off the ice.




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22 Feb 2024 14:38:00
Lmao. Nope. Suddenly McMann is a second line centre? Again…. lmao.




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21 Feb 2024 17:02:13
Rather give Minten and keep knies.





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