Leafs rumours 2

15 Nov 2025 14:47:53
Cgy
Carlo $3.485
Jarnkrok $2.1M

Tor
Klapka $1.25
Brzustewicz ELC
2026 3rd

If Calgary has Carlo, it will make moving Andersson a little easier. Jarnkrok is a useful bottom 6 player that could be kept until the trade deadline and then probably get a pick for him.

Leafs get a fairly young 4th liner that will hit and fight if necessary while playing a regular shift. Brzustewicz is a puck moving RD prospect(almost 21) that is developing well. The 3rd pick balances values and adds an asset to the Leafs cupboards. Leafs also clear over $4M in cap space

15 Nov 2025 16:22:49
Calgary already has weegar, perehk, and pachal for RHD without Andersson. So they aren't too concerned. But I do like targetting klapka.

15 Nov 2025 22:54:09
Pachal is a 3rd pair D at best. Getting Carlo allows them to bring Perehk along without rushing him if they have Carlo and move Andersson.

16 Nov 2025 18:01:40
Why are we looking for more 4th liners? We need a speedy playmaker not another 4th liner to add to the 8 we have already.

16 Nov 2025 20:55:53
It's not about bringing in another 4th liner. It is about swapping the type of 4th liner and replacing a defensive D with a young puck moving D while creating $4M in cap space which would make another add much easier to facilitate if wanted.

14 Nov 2025 21:10:33
Tor: Carlo, Robertson, Domi

Nash: Hague, Evangalista

15 Nov 2025 01:55:28
If Nashville likes this proposal let’s get it done.

Hague would be an upgrade over Benoit (and Reilly) at LD and Evangelista is the perfect fit at RW for the 3rd line.
Joshua - Roy - Evangelista
It would stabilize the 3rd line and perhaps even make it a strength.
If he can ever get healthy Laughton makes the 4th line a strength.
Lorentz - Laughton - Jarnkrok/ Cowan
We could start to have some confidence in Leafs bottom 6.

The downside is that it creates a dirth of RHD with only Tanev remaining.
These head injuries at 35, will soon have him thinking about his and his families future after hockey.
Similar to what happened to Jake Muzzin.

15 Nov 2025 05:56:24
The leafs need puck movers Carlo for Hague is a lateral move evangalista is a nice player but again does he do that much more than Robertson or domi the only upside to this trade really is cap space.

14 Nov 2025 20:52:45
Leafs return for Matthews given his injury history will be similar to what CGY got for Markstrom, maybe a bit more because of his age and term.

A 1st and a good prospect is what CGY got.

I think they should see if NSH wants Matthews, Carlo and a 2nd for Stamkos, their 1st round pick this year, along with Brady Martin, who was picked early last year.

I'd then try to turn around and move Nylander, Robertson and Reilly to Seattle for O'Brien and Canton. They'd have to make some retention for those players, but man in 2-3 years they'd have such a filthy young team.

You could even package Stolarz and Tanev for some quality as they are still useful players.

Not sure either those trade partners want anything to do with our castaways, but it's be nice to look at a full cupboard.

15 Nov 2025 01:43:40
69g scoring 1C with term and a middling goalie aren't the same.

15 Nov 2025 02:09:31
I very much much like the idea of going young.
Start the rebuild for the next generation of Leafs.
A ream has about a decade to 12 years to go through its cycle.
The Core 4 team began almost a decade ago.
It’s time has passed.
I would do Matthews for Brady Martin and Nashville’s 1st round pick in 2026 along with Stamkos thrown in for the cap balancing.

Prior to the 2025 draft I proposed trading Nylander to the Sharks to play with Cellibrini.
In returning I suggested SHS’s 1st (2nd overall) and Sam Dickenson.
I also proposed using that 2nd overall pick to select Brady Martin whom I felt was the #2 player in the draft.

Matthew Knies, Brady Martin, Easton Cowan, Ben Danford, Jake O’Brien Joe Woll and Berkly Catton would be an excellent core for the next iteration of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

15 Nov 2025 05:51:16
The main issue with starting a rebuild now is we didn't just mortgage this years picks, we are kind of stuck not tanking until we actually have high round picks. We are in a nasty spot similar to the end of the datsyuk era in Detroit. We just don't have any cups to show for it. I think we have 2 of going for it before we think rebuild unfortunately. Hopefully we don't keep emptying the cupboards.

15 Nov 2025 12:48:24
The sunken cost fallacy is going to cost us several years. If we can get a top 3 pick this year we can maybe retool on the fly enough in the off season to keep those next two pick out of the top 10, while still having an abundance of youth.

14 Nov 2025 19:35:24
tor: joshua, myers 5th, blake smith

pitts: dumba (50%), 2026 3rd (SJ)


im ready to give anything a try, i was debating on joshua or domi, but domi has the benefit of being a center and s considered higher skill. dumba for 1 yr at 1.875m isn't too bad for what is a rd pair right shot who has a slight bit of snarl. wost case is we flip him at the deadline for an extra draft pick.

15 Nov 2025 02:20:29
Interesting.
If Tanev is out long term with these head injuries, Dumba could be a decent, short term fix.
I also wondered if Troy Stecher would be an upgrade over Philip Meyers who hasn’t looked good.
Oilers have put Stecher on waivers, earning $787,500 this year then a UFA.
Joshua has not been able to really get his feet under him yet this year but I still feel he has more upside and would rather not give him up if possible.
Certainly Bobby McMann could replace Joshua on the 3rd line with Nic Roy.

15 Nov 2025 18:43:16
Dumba is the worst defenseman in the nhl. Please be serious.

16 Nov 2025 21:51:35
Mermis and Myers are worse.

14 Nov 2025 13:45:25
This is based off what I just wrote on the Talk side. Yes, Matthews would have to waive his NMC.

Chi
Matthews $13.5M

Tor
Teravainen $5.4M
Boisvert ELC
Korchinski ELC
2026 1st(CHI-top 5 protected)

Chicago immediately improves getting Matthews. Enough said.

Toronto gets a useful top 9 LW, a very good C prospect in Boisvert, a very good D prospect in Korchinski and a 1st in this upcoming draft as well as about $8M in new cap space and and renewed assets. No, they do not get a top line centre orelite prospect back, which is not ideal. But they now have the assets to chase a guy like Tage Thompson for instance, who may be tired of being in Buffalo.

Or, would Chi do Tera, Levshunov and Boisvert for Matthews as another idea.

14 Nov 2025 14:29:22
As much as I like it, no 1st for 2 years kills it for me. You can't have that pick be in the top 10 and Boston get it again.

14 Nov 2025 16:18:31
LL. I'm not convinced if they trade Matthews and Rielly they automatically become a bottom feeder. If they get a good return for Matthews and player for player for Rielly, they may have the makings of a middle of the pack team. If Tre could pull off some other moves, who knows what direction they head in.

14 Nov 2025 20:55:16
That’s not enough for Matthews.

14 Nov 2025 22:20:44
Carlo, Robertson, Villeneuve for Parayko.

16 Nov 2025 18:22:30
I don't think the pick coming back should be a top 5 protection. Chicago is getting a consistent 40 goal scorer with 69 potential.

I think the biggest question is, what's harder to do, trade matthews for value, or aquire a top line winger to play alongside him to get him back to the player we need him to be.

14 Nov 2025 11:34:56
To Tor
Andersson $4.55

To Cal
Carlo $3.49
Jarnkrok $2.1
Villeneuve
2nd 2026

To Tor
Trochek $5.63
Raddysh $1.5

To NYR
Maccelli $3.43
Robertson $1.83
Mcmann $1.35
Holinka

Blais on waivers 4:56mins last night garbage. Bring up Pezzetta.

Knies Matthews Trochek
Domi Tavares nylander
Joshua Roy Raddysh
Pezzetta Laughton Lorentz

Reilly Tanev
McCabe Andersson
Benoit OEL

14 Nov 2025 21:45:08
Calgary laughs at that one
Cmon blowhard get serious

And the rangers do that deal why?
🙄.

14 Nov 2025 11:12:30
Waive Blais he played 4:56mins last night what is the point bring up Pezzetta give him a chance. Thrun should be up and waive Myers. You go with Mermis who's a pylon. Coach is a big problem here not willing to think outside his stubborn style of play and adjust. It's his way or no way. That's why he got fired from blues. He will be gone again.

To Tor
Trochek $5.63

To Nyr
Macelli $3.43
Mcmann $1.35
2nd rd 2026

To tor
Parayko $6.5
Texier $1mil retained $1.1
To STL
Domi $3.75
Carlo $3.49
Villeneuve

Knies Matthews Trochek
Robertson Tavares nylander
Joshua Roy Texier
Lorentz Laughton Pezzetta

Rielly parayko
McCabe Tanev
Benoit OEL

14 Nov 2025 21:47:27
That parayko trade is horrendous for St. Louis
How do you come up with this drivel?

15 Nov 2025 02:07:23
Is it really? Carlo 28yrs old signed at $3.49 for 2 yrs compared to parayko 32 and signed till 36 at $6mil. Plus Villeneuve 23yrs right shot d. Plus Domi who is 30yrs old not good with leafs but I bet on st. louis he gets 40pts. I think you put way too much value on other players in this league. It’s a young league now so blues would welcome these guys in a rebuild.

15 Nov 2025 21:06:48
Lol
Domi and Carlo scream rebuild?
Get a grip.

14 Nov 2025 00:27:37
Tredeadthing would do this
Leafs
B Schenn

Blues
Robertson
Holinka

But I wouldn't

14 Nov 2025 10:55:41
So then why post it.

13 Nov 2025 17:35:29
To Tor
Thomas $8.13
Parayko $5.5 ($1mil ret)
Texier $1.1 ($1mil ret)

To STL
Domi $3.75
Macelli $3.43
Jarnkrok $2.1
Carlo $3.49
Cowan
2nd 2026
-1.96 cap

To Tor
Trochek $5.63
To Rangers
Robertson $1.83
Joshua $3.25
-550k cap

Kampf +$2.4 terminated

Knies Matthews Trochek
Tavares Thomas nylander
Mcmann Roy Texier
Lorentz Laughton Blais

McCabe Tanev
Rielly Parayko
Benoit OEL

14 Nov 2025 02:28:39
I don't get the incentive for the Blues.

14 Nov 2025 04:04:34
Dreaming in technocolor!

14 Nov 2025 10:55:10
WB do Cowan no way for Schenn cause he’s too old I get that. But for Thomas I’m dreaming in technocolour? Cowan and a second plus plus for the whole package? You are on some serious 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴. Thomas is starting slow with 9pts so far. Blues looking to shake it up. Texier has fallen out of good standing. Carlo at 28 compared to parayko at 32 and signed till 36. You r getting top prospect a good draft pick plus plus. Dont tell me it’s not good enough.

14 Nov 2025 21:42:23
Lol
Blowhard
Why post it?

13 Nov 2025 14:35:20
Would you guys make this trade for this lineup? Or do you think draft picks should be added either way.
To Clb : Matthews, Maccelli

To Tor: Jenner, Marchenko, Olivier

Knies JT Nylander
McMann Jenner Marchenko
Joshua Roy Robertson
Lorentz Laughton Olivier

Yes our C would be in their mid to late 30’s. Start drafting C now.

Have to move or find a trade for Domi, Jarnkrok, Kampf. Keep Blais as the extra F.

13 Nov 2025 18:06:04
I think fantilli needs to be a part of that trade for me to even consider it.

13 Nov 2025 21:38:18
Not in a million years. Matthews alone gets more than that. Fantilli absolutely would be included to even pick up the phone.

13 Nov 2025 22:00:46
Not a good idea.

14 Nov 2025 02:24:54
But you’re getting Marchenko, a young power forward to fit our mold. Jenner makes a good #2 C both ends of the ice. Plus Olivier has to be part of the deal for me. Tough guy that can play in every game because he has value besides his toughness not to mention an extra $5+ Million in salary cap. I say if we’re going for the DNA change then go for it. I’m a big fan of Bostons roster, if they make playoffs they will be a handful to deal with.

14 Nov 2025 04:08:38
That’s basically Matthew’s for Marchenko and Olivier.
A #1 center for a top 6 winger and a bottom 6 winger.
Jenner í a 32 year old 2nd/ 3rd line center with good leadership skills and a long injury history.

13 Nov 2025 01:46:07
Leafs only have two (2) players and two (2) prospects that other teams might really be interested in.
Matthews & Nylander, Cowan & Danford.
Leafs are already the 4th oldest team in the league with no picks until 2028 and only Cowan & Danford as true NHL prospects.
Trading either or both prospects is a recipe for disaster as Treliving's two deadline deals were (2026 - 1st, Minten, 2027 - 1st Grebenkin).
I would prefer to keep our two prospects and Willie is my favorite/only Leaf I really like.
That Leaves Matthews.
As GM, I would sit down with Matthews and his agent, point out that the team is going nowhere but backwards and ask them if they would consider providing a list of 3 or 4 teams they might consider a trade too.
Then go to work to see if any of those teams have a package to offer that would justify trading Leafs #1 center.
Something like:

To LA Kings: Matthews

To Leafs: Quinton Byfield, Brandt Clarke, Liam Greentree and a 2026 - 2nd round pick.

Knies - Tavares - Nylander
Robertson - Byfield - Greentree
Joshua - Roy - ? (McMann)
Lorentz's - Laughton - Jarnkrok

McCabe - Tanev
OEL - Clarke
Benoit - Carlo
Reilly

13 Nov 2025 13:00:48
Why’s trading a 2nd line winger and a #4 D who are a few years off, a recipe for disaster? Either they have to go for it now . / or a total tear down to rebuild around the 2nd line winger and #4 D that will lead leafs to Stanley cup glory .

14 Nov 2025 04:17:49
I would call trading your #1 center the beginning of a tear down.
The hope is that Byfield will develop into the #1 center by the time Tavares’s contract expires.
Liam Greentree ís a right winger a commodity Leaf’s only have two of at the moment and one of them is Jarnkrok.
Brandt Clarke ís a right hand defenseman and ís already better than either Carlo or Reilly.

You don’t have to like this particular deal.
Suggest another?
What i am saying is that Leaf’s should trade Matthew’s before considering trading any more of their future in terms of picks or prospects.
No one trade for a guy like Schenn (34) or Kadri (35) is going to change Leafs current misfortunes.

14 Nov 2025 10:09:00
@WB49 I just never heard a real hockey mind say Nylander is their favourite. I can’t stand watching this guy play most of the time. Gives up on his team, terrible on the defensive side of the puck. Terrible role model for the younger guys. Lacks heart! Knies, NcMann and JT are the heart of the forward group right now.

14 Nov 2025 10:12:44
Rielly is the 7th dman?

14 Nov 2025 11:37:01
WB is on some seriously good stuff when he posts 🥴🥴🥴🥴.