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07 Mar 2024 16:56:06
To:Pittsburg, Nickolas Robertson, Nolan Gregor , Ty Voit & Connor Timmins To: Jake Guentzel & Rielly Smith 50% retain

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07 Mar 2024 19:00:17
Lmao. What planet are you living on? Those four don’t even come close to Guentzel alone!

08 Mar 2024 02:40:29
I think that 30 other teams in the NHL could put together a more attractive package for the Penguins to consider.

07 Mar 2024 16:55:09
Hey Leafs fans have read that the blues and devils are willing to trade Pavel Bush and Toffoli and retain 50% of the cap


To make cap work teams must retain 50% of salary

First
Tor. Toffoli
Devils. Robertson Timmons and late pick

Second

Tor Pavel Bush
Blues. Lilly jornkork Gregor Mentin and 1st



New lines

Bush AM MM
Toffoli Domi Willy
Knies JT Bertuzzi
McMann Kampf Revees
Homlberg

Reilly Joel E
Brodie. Boosh
Beoint McCabe

Sam
Woll

This is a true playoff team. Physicality. Scoring and strong blue line.

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08 Mar 2024 02:42:21
Not enough for Toffolli.

Far too much for Buchnevich. (Minten, Liljegren, 2024 - 1st? )

07 Mar 2024 16:03:17
Here's how Tree can finish it off.

Ana
Liljegren $1.4M
Robertson $.798M

Tor
Jones $.650M(50% retained by Minny for a 2024 5th from Anaheim)
Lindstrom $.950M

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07 Mar 2024 20:28:23
Finally someone who gets the retaining. u saw Anaheim has no retain spots so u used minny to cover it for a fair 5th rd

Thanks for not being oblivious like sone around here thinking every team can just retain as many as possible, if a team has 1 retain spot left so g try to retain 2 spots lol.

07 Mar 2024 15:29:20
Toronto get edmudson for the 3rd this year and a 5th honestly I like the move more than most good playoff defender when facing Boston.

Fun fact edmudson was Morgan Reillys d partner with the Moose Jaw warriors

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07 Mar 2024 15:55:49
I had just posted on the talk side that you called it dead on. Well done.

07 Mar 2024 17:24:48
Very Cool tidbit of information.

07 Mar 2024 21:28:59
Sorry to burst your bubble but both Rielly drafted 2nd overall in 09 and edmundston 121st overall in 08 were both rookies 2010-11 season for Moose Jaw so they were out with vets
Rielly Mciirath
Edmundston bowman

Bowman was traded for in 2010 sumner specifically to captain Moose Jaw and help out with one of there 2 young Dmen

2011-12 they started year with same pairings and had a few Dmen step up and after losing 3 of there top forwards from year ago lacked scoring depth so 7 games in knowing there d group was strong they dealt bowman to Calgary for a couple of forwards and put Travis brown as edmundston keeping Rielly with mciirath. Rielly got hurt 18 games in for remainder of year and edmundston replaced him having brown end up playing with any of Earnhardt, McFaul or Gwinner depending on which of 3 best were playing. Rielly was placed with brown upon return in playoffs and thst combo did well

2012-13 mciirath was gone and Rielly brown stuck as a tandem for year. This pairing played 27 minutes a game leaving little ice time so knowing he needs more minutes Edmundston got dealt 29 games in to Kamloops for a halbegwachs, dman Bell and a 1st. He then got most dedicated player award for not complain g and just showing his leadership in the situation.

So yes they played together but barely as partners. Maybe a few shifts here or there but not actual d partners.

Either way though good pickup.

07 Mar 2024 14:11:14
What are the thoughts on Carrier & Trenin? What does it take to get it done?

Stight upgrade on D over Lily and more grit on the bottom 6.

Lily + 1st & 3rd with an extension on Trenin & retention on both?

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07 Mar 2024 21:58:45
Nashville is in playoff spot have dealt trenin and graham sward (20 yr old offensive D) to Colorado for Jeremy hanzel (21 yr old offensive D) and a 3rd 2025 draft.

Hanzel is 7 months older and a tad better defensively and faster than sward but sward is showing more offensive ability but is on a better offensive team, do t understand the exchange as both are Left handed

Then Nashville got Anthony beauvillier from chic for a 5th 2024 to replace trenin

Basically trenin and a 5th for beauvillier and 3rd as the prospects cancel each other out

Think to get carrier ir fabbro will take liljegren and Robertson but I could be over valuing this

Sorry RLF I know trenin is a big you guy. maybe leafs target him in offseason as a ufa.

07 Mar 2024 11:17:02
First time posting, been watching these for a while.
Any chance with the news the blues will retain 50% of Buchnevoc contract, so he will cost 2.9 mil to acquire.

Leafs receive
Buchnevic 50% retained
Parayko

Blues receive
3rd 2025
1st 2024
Brodie
Minten
Gregor
Robertson

Let's hear what you have to think!

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07 Mar 2024 12:27:51
Too much from the Leafs. Hanifin only fetched a 2025 1st plus a 3rd, that is likely a 2nd.

Take out the 3rd, Minten and Gregor.

07 Mar 2024 15:29:05
Hanafin is a rental, where as both buchnevic and parayko are multi year pick ups. That’s why I figure they’d fetch more than Hanafin

Gregor is just a contract at this point, won’t be on the leafs starting roster to begin the playoffs.

07 Mar 2024 22:51:07
@tymac sounds like Hanafin is nailing down an extension.

07 Mar 2024 00:16:03
Please, Please, Please Treliving trade LILJEGREN! AND ASK BRODIE FOR THIS TEN TEAM NO TRADE LIST!

Toronto trades Liljegren & 6th
To
Columbus for Peeke (50 percent retained)
(Peeke is bigger and STARTER THAN THAT DUMB ASS SHREK)

Toronto trades Brodie & Robertson
To
Seattle for Will Brogan and Tanev

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07 Mar 2024 02:35:54
Like Borgen a lot but the expiring contract of 33 year old Brodie and 3rd line, 10:00 - 11:00 minutes a night Robertson won’t get Borgen let alone Tanev as well.
Walker brought in a 1st round pick for Flyers so probably a 2024 - 1st, Robertson and Brodie for cap matching purposes.

If Liljegren can’t figure out the basics after 5 years maybe it is time for new surroundings and I have always been a big fan of Liljegren but disappointment is setting in.

07 Mar 2024 02:50:30
Lilygren has been really bad the last little while. May be time for him to go .

07 Mar 2024 05:18:38
@WB 1st for walker, but they also took on a major cap dump.

06 Mar 2024 15:48:24
Pittsburgh Trades
RSmith*

Toronto Trades
Gregor
NRobertson (AHL)
3rd Round Pick 2024 (NYI Pick)

*Pens retain 50% of RSmith's remaining contract.


Dubas will be trading age for youth as well as an obvious upcoming UFA by Friday, some might argue Pittsburgh would say no to this proposal, imo this is about right.

Leafs solidify the third line adding RSmith and strength the 4th line moving Jarnkrok with Holmberg and Kampf with Reaves being the 13th forward for any future rough games like The Rangers game.


Thoughts ?

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07 Mar 2024 02:36:54
I do not see Reilly Smith as a good fit to sacrifice limited assets on.
A lot of better fits
Leafs could target.

06 Mar 2024 11:44:32
Tor: 3rd (Nyi)
Wsh: edmudson

Tor gets: smith 2nd(pit) 5th(vgk via sjs)
Pitt gets: 1st tor liljgren 25% of smith
Sjs get Robertson 25% of smith

Knies Matthews Marner
Smith Tavares jarnkrok
Bertuzzi domi nylander
Mcmann kampf holmberg

Benoit McCabe
Brodie edmudson
Reilly lybushkin

Get bigger and add more depth I don't see this magical top rhd being out there for Toronto to go get fix that issue in the offseason

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06 Mar 2024 13:55:35
I'm not high on Edmundson. I know he can play both sides and get what you are sating, he's always been kind of careless with the puck though. He is a lefty and not sure he is any better than the lefties the Leafs have. He has size and will scrap though.

If I'm getting the 2nd one right. Leafs send out Lily, Robertson and a 1st to get Reilly Smith at 50% and a 2nd and 5th. Is that correct?
Not sure Smith is worth that and I don't see a lot of issues in the Leafs forward group unless we can pick up a big man that is physical and can play in the top 9.

I'd pass on the Smith trade but Edmundson for a 3rd. Maybe.

06 Mar 2024 15:20:08
@RFL that a fair point with edmudson but I kinda wonder why the leafs got boosh then cause he can’t handle the puck at all haha I like edmudson just because he’s big and he’s gonna make guys pay that want to camp out front of our net it was his biggest asset when he played in Montreal and the leafs don’t have that since they moved in from schenn.

As for the pens trade my thoughts were the leafs need more two way players they have a terrible pk which will in turn kill them in the playoffs we send out two guys that are in fact not playoff style players liljgren has been better with Brodie but still shows signs of lack of detail in his own end especially when he’s being pressured and Robertson they don’t have to move but it’s kind of one of those things that they should just do right by the player and give him a fresh start leafs give up a 1st because that’s their only valuable draft pick but get the second so essentially trading back in the draft keep in mind leafs get smith at 2.5 for this year and next that’s worth something of value and liljgren is an rfa.

06 Mar 2024 15:55:14
Goat. All good points. I like Edmundson's compete, just not sure if he adds that much as iirc, he struggles on his opposite side. No?

As for Smith, I am not really questioning the value you have put on the trade although it seems like a lot to pay SJ for just 1.25M of retention for this year and next. imo, I don't think I would want to use all those assets for Smith, as that empties the cupboards almost completely of what is tradeable.

This is my thinking. In the end the Leafs have a 1st and 3rd this year, a 1st in 2026 and Liljegren and Robertson as their best trade assets that one might be willing to move. Almost all are moved in these two deals to get the rest of this year of Edmundson and this and next of Smith. A 2nd is recouped leaving the Leafs with a 1st in 2026 and a 2nd in 2024 (I'm guessing you meant) as the only top assets they have left if they want to keep Knies, Minten, Cowan and Niemela. If emptying the cupboards, I am hoping it would be for players that can grow with the team and not pending UFA's and a 32 year old winger. Just my take.

06 Mar 2024 16:31:57
@RFL I agree but the trade you want isn’t out there unfortunately I think the leafs will end up overpaying on players and it will be because Florida and Boston are loading up.

06 Mar 2024 17:19:52
Goat. My kind of trade may not be there and if that is the case, don't make a trade for the sake of it. Look again in the off-season when they have the cap space and all the assets still. I said a long time ago, I see this as a transition year. So, only make trades that help now and the future. Don't go "all in" on this season by emptying the cupboards on pending UFA'S and aged players. My opinion hasn't changed even since they finally fixed the line combos.

06 Mar 2024 09:36:43
Tre the GM
MPH prediction

No trades between now and Friday

He will rebuild the D this summer
Sign
Tanev and Edmundston
Will resign Lyubushkin

Will not resign Samsonov Bertuzzi Domi Brodie
Will trade the 1st rd pick at the draft with Robertson and Liljegren and Abruzzese to Arizona for Crouse and McBain

Cowan is on the team next year
Minten will not be

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06 Mar 2024 10:49:20
I hope your 100% Correct. Everyone knows Crouse but home town boy McBain is exactly what Toronto needs.

06 Mar 2024 11:34:52
Still need a backup up goalie but I like these additions.

06 Mar 2024 11:36:06
I hope they resign Benoit as well he's a keeper.

07 Mar 2024 02:44:32
Can’t see how signing Edmundson and resigning Lyubushkin help improve the Leafs.
Tanev is 34 and will be 35 before Christmas so I truly hope none of the 3 are on the Leafs at the start of next season.

Unless there is a better choice available I see the Leafs resigning Samsonov to a short term contract (1 or 2 years max) unless another team offers him term which isn’t highly likely.
Hildeby isn’t ready for the NHL yet.

Coyotes really like Crouse and McBain and I can not see them trading either player.
Particularly not for Robertson and Liljegren.

06 Mar 2024 00:35:26
Letang at 25% retained for Liligren and Robertson

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06 Mar 2024 03:35:54
No more over the hill, past their prime, 36 year old (soon to be 37) defensemen, with 4 more years on their contract at $6.5 million per year.
Not a good idea.

 


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