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25 Apr 2025 07:54:28
Leafs trade Jarnknok
SAN Jose 4 th
I'm just catching a little of Tampa vs Florida game 2
Lighting are just awful can't enter zone on power play and giving up long stretch passes
The lightning are playing much worse than Ottawa
23 Apr 2025 12:03:07
Detroit trade 4 th
Leafs trade Kampf
CLARKY
Reilly isn't awful
23 Apr 2025 14:35:30
Mo usually steps it up in the playoffs. No surprise.
24 Apr 2025 01:49:13
His cap number will look fantastic in 2 years he is not a problem at all . His plus/ minus was minus 17 at its worst and he finished -8. He has a defence partner that supports him so watch his plus/ minus next season . If Toronto beats Ottawa the tough text will be Florida so in a few weeks we see things very clearly they must end Ottawa in as few games as possible so they re rested .
17 Apr 2025 21:37:27
Was talking to someone at work today about the Marner contract.
Does he end up with the first max contract in the NHL or close to it? With the cap set to rise this fast and him being the only real AAA superstar to hit the market in years, does a team like SJ offer 20m?
I can absolutely see it happening.
18 Apr 2025 03:13:52
Anything over $14m per would shock me. Over $15m per, and I might actually pass out.
18 Apr 2025 20:25:58
Totally agree with that.
19 Apr 2025 18:21:54
Well not with Toronto maybe a basement team would but even then teams like San Jose have young stars that will eventually need to be paid.
23 Apr 2025 11:44:54
No Ottawa player has more than 1 point they are in deep trouble.
24 Apr 2025 01:01:07
If Marner wants more than $14 million per year then his heart isn’t really in Toronto.
It’s in his wallet!
If he hasn’t signed by the time the Stanley Cup is awarded the Leafs should trade his negotiating rights.
Is that allowed under a NTC/ NMC?
I do not know?
They wouldn’t get much but anything would help.
16 Apr 2025 02:28:26
Toronto off season trades and Ufa signings,
Toronto trades Robertson and Holmberg
To
Philadelphia for RFA Tyson Forester
Toronto signs UFA Ryan Donato 3 yrs x 3.5 million
Third Line
Steeves Donato Forester
Toronto trades Kampf to Utah for a 4th
Toronto signs UFA Brett Leason
Fourth Line
Lorentz Laughton Leason
Toronto trades Domi, Rielly, and Jarnkroc
To
Seattle for Vince Dunn, 3rd and Fourth
Leafs sign Knies, Tavares, Marner
If Marner leaves as a UFA
Toronto will look to sign Kane or Boeser
Cowan will play for the Marlies next year
16 Apr 2025 12:10:41
Less than zero interest in Patrick Kane.
16 Apr 2025 19:49:49
I know but Matthews would love to play with him, sign him for one year and then bring up Cowan.
17 Apr 2025 00:00:02
Pretty sure Matthews is fine with Knies.
17 Apr 2025 09:12:53
@bob1965 why are you so down on kane the guy is still effective at his age 20+ goals 60-65 points and that’s one a crappy Detroit team.
18 Apr 2025 02:43:23
And minus 16….
McMann has 20 goals and plus 12.
Kane wants to play for 3 million sure . Not a nickel more.
15 Apr 2025 07:28:22
Leafs trade Jarnknok & Kampf
Sharks Trae 4 th round pick
Just create more cap space
COWAN didn't have a great season in London I think he was bored but the playoffs are here and he has jam back in his game
Games 6. Goals 6 assists 10 = 16 points
This guy is ready NHL
NEXT SEASON LEAFS MUST FINALLY HAVE 3 SCORING LINES
KNIES MATTHEWS MARNER
McMann TAVARES NYLANDER
COWEN Holmberg ROBINSON
Maybe they bring another Center in Jeez I still cry in my beer that Laughton cost the GREBENKIN & FIRST ROUND PIC
SHANAHAN HAS TO WATCH TRELIVING AND HIS TRADES CLOSELY
15 Apr 2025 08:36:11
Yikes that third line is awful I’m honestly on the fence with Cowan making the leafs next year I mean I don’t remember him much in camp this year but I think he’s close could he play along side jt and willy? So much hinges on what marner does.
15 Apr 2025 10:32:47
Goat2.0
Marner isn’t leaving he has the most points ever recorded by a Leaf if he stays. Things like that mean something to players
I don’t know if LEAFSare lowballing him or what but at end of day the two sides will strike a deal
If gladly jr took less to stay here and he did had he went to free agency he gets more than 500 million. Then you think Marner who has really good friends on team will leave.
I can’t see Marner going to Pittsburgh and that’s the team that will try hardest to steal him from Toronto.
15 Apr 2025 14:40:34
@DM Mirch will get significant orders from a lot of teams, not just Pitts.
Vladdy is in a different sport on a different team and a different person. Couldn't I also point out Kawhi left? Lol.
15 Apr 2025 21:49:25
This is Marner home town marks my words he signs with Leafs
He is the best player on Leafs
Keep a eye on Cowen he will crush Marner stats in London playoffs
Marner 18 games 16 goals 28 assists = 44 points
Cowan 6 games 6 goals 10 assists = 16 points.
16 Apr 2025 09:13:48
He is not the best player on this team. I'd still give that to Mathews.
Willy is growing on me as well.
17 Apr 2025 09:20:20
@DM all those things are nice but you think Mitch really cares about being from the gta if anything that’s a strike this guys takes more heat because of it at the end of the day there’s gonna be a lot of money thrown at him and it will be the kind of money that will be hard to say no to teams like Chicago Anaheim San Jose are dying for a superstar player. At the end of the day I lean more towards letting him walk just for something different I think Cowan is a prototype of marner so idk hard to say right now.
24 Apr 2025 01:10:37
I can’t see Marner signing with a rebuilding team after all of these years in the playoffs.
The contenders do not have the cap space to sign Marner as they are already committed to their own Astor’s.
Perhaps a more competitive team with cap space who are on the verge of jumping into playoff contention like Utah HC.
12 Apr 2025 08:03:56
Off season
Marner walks
Trade kampf to LA for a 4th 2025
Trade Jarnkrok to Hawks for a 5th 2025
Trade Rielly Steeves Niemela to Kraken for Firkus
Please Kraken take Rielly
Resign Tavares 7 million per for 3 years
Bennett 7 million per for 5 years
Roslovic 3 million per for 3 years
Appleton 3 million per for 3 years
Perbix 3 million per for 5 years
Provorov 8 million per for 7 years
Knies Matthews roslovic
Cowan Tavares Nylander
McMann Bennett Domi
Robertson Laughton Appleton
Holmberg
McCabe Tanev
Provorov Carlo
OEL Perbix
Benoit
Stolarz Woll
15 Apr 2025 08:41:00
Your evaluations are off I think Bennett starts with an 8 unless he stays with Florida roslovic I like as a target but as a 3C and he makes minimum of 5 mil he’s been good this year Appleton and prebix are 4th liner and bottom pairing players yous can have 6 players that are just as good for what your giving them and provorov I would stay away from he’s not that good.
11 Apr 2025 22:51:26
tor: cowen, Nemiela, robertson, 2025 3rd
chi: bedard
I wish the leafs had picks with value. would a deal with multiple not terrible peices work in a move for bedard. it could set the leafs up with a soid 2c (soon as JT spends 2 years working on faceoffs with him) .
12 Apr 2025 01:44:17
I often try to move a bunch of pieces but there's is no way that 3rd isn't at least 2 first to get that conversation started.
12 Apr 2025 02:38:25
JT better work on plus/ minus with him too. Zero chance Chicago takes that offer however.
12 Apr 2025 06:13:41
I don't understand why CHI even answers the call.
All of this+more doesn't get you a 1st overall. It just isn't getting there.
Celebrities for Bedard is the kind of deal they want.
This also doesn't help short or long term tbh.
Bedard won't be great for a few years (if ever) . Leafs need to win now. It's a losing prop.
08 Apr 2025 20:08:49
Not that Rielly would likely waive for SJ, but if he would.
SJ
Rielly $7.5M
Tor
Misskey ELC
2025 1st(Dal)
09 Apr 2025 14:03:40
Reilly is awful and other teams see how bad he is in his own end. It’s almost getting to a point where we are going to have to pay to rid of him.
10 Apr 2025 02:13:47
I can’t see any team giving up much for Reilly.
I would imagine the only team he would consider waiving his NMC for would be Vancouver.
Would Vancouver even want him?
If Boeser isn’t resigned by late June and intends to walk away for nothing, would Canucks trade Boeser’s signing rights for Reilly.
That way Canucks aren’t left empty handed.
If Marner walks Leafs can try to sign Boeser.
If Marner signs before July 1st Leafs might still be able to trade Boeser’s rights to another club who wants 1st crack at him prior to free agency.
At the very least, Leafs would have cleared $7.5 million off of their cap and can use it to strengthen their defense?
Just a passing thought.
10 Apr 2025 10:47:06
I agree WB 49 for the most part but I don’t reallly care for Brock Boeser. Is he gonna be much different than prior superstars? Streaky, not very aggressive, would he raise his game for playoffs? I hope we go after proven winners like Bennett.
10 Apr 2025 15:09:09
Rielly has been a top 4 D for years. Yes, he is having a down year, but a late first and a project prospect is not a big ask. I think you guys are devaluing him too much based on one really poor year.
10 Apr 2025 15:19:12
Reilly to Van for a second, just to dump his salary. Let Marner walk. There’s 20 million in savings . Lock up Knies (4@7m bridge ) and Tavares (4@5.5).
Trade/ move/ dump…. Domi, Kamph, Jarnkok, Benoit.
Sign Ehlers, Bennett and Ekblad.
06 Apr 2025 00:55:37
There are not very many trades out there for leafs but these two must go
Leafs trade Jarnknok Kampf
SAN. JOSE 3 RD PICK
FIGURING OUT THE BEST PLACE TO PUT ROBERTSON TO GET HIM SCORING MORE
Knies Matthews Marner
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson Holmberg Steeves
This is why the flyer trade was awful Leafs didn't get a worthwhile piece back
06 Apr 2025 04:12:21
Treliving was supposed to acquire a 3rd line center.
Treliving sacrificed a 1st round pick and a promising prospect.
Treliving got, a 3rd/ 4th line left wing, something Leafs had an abundance of.
Nothing against Scott Laughton but that was a terrible trade from the Leafs perspective!
Nelson, Granlund, Gourde, Cozens & Frederic (all centers) were traded by their teams.
What exactly was Treliving thinking.
Did the Leafs management really “not know” that the Flyers preferred Laughton at left wing not center?
06 Apr 2025 16:44:37
Let's get a little real if we are talking "Treliving should have" instead of Laughton.
Nelson, a pending UFA went for Ritchie (equivalent would be Cowan), Kylington (Benoit) a conditional 1st and a 3rd where Colorado also got Dufour (Grebenkin) . Nelson is also 33 which WB49, you always says we have to stop trading 1st's for older pending UFA's. Should Tree have given up Cowan, a 1st, 3rd and Benoit to get the rest of this season of Nelson?
Gourde went for (2) 1sts a 2nd a Eyssimont (Holmberg) . Another 33 year old pending UFA. Again, that's a ton to give up for the rest of the season of Gourde.
Cozens makes $7.1M per. Not possible for the Leafs to even consider.
Frederic. He went for basically a 2nd and a 4th. Leafs could have fit both Carlo and Frederic in. Another pending UFA though. He would have fit needs financially and physicality on the ice, but is a worse centre than Laughton. Frederic is a career 44% on the dot and doesn't play centre full time. Laughton is a career 50% on the dot and has played a lot more centre than Frederic. He is also having a down year offensively even though he was on the 2nd PP unit and is not considered a really good PKer.
Instead of giving up massive assets for rentals, Tree got two players under contract with retention on each, at deals they could afford moving forward. The other options were one and done type deals and Frederic is not an improvement over Laughton at C. I would also argue that Carlo makes a greater team impact than the need to upgrade at 3C.
Mackin. Robertson does not deserve a full time spot on the leafs. If they need to keep sitting him to get production from him, that isn't a good sign, it's a bad one.
06 Apr 2025 17:03:59
Forgot Granlund. Went for a 1st and 3rd. Another 33 year old pending UFA that had no retention in the deal. That's $5M, which was out of the Leafs reach.
07 Apr 2025 10:57:28
I’m not saying Leafs SHOULD have gotten Nelson or Granlund!
I’m saying six (6) centers were traded and Leafs ended up with a bottom six, left wing for a 1st round pick and a promising prospect.
Terrible trade from the Leafs perspective.
Frederic, Gourde or Pageau with some retention would have been far better than Laughton.
07 Apr 2025 12:26:44
WB49
You noted those players saying they were all traded, stating they were all centres and what was Tree thinking by getting Laughton instead. How is that not saying he should have went after any of those players instead? Why mention them then?
Who cares of Torts said he sees Laughton as a winger instead of a centre. Laughton played centre full-time for the 7 seasons before this one.
Regardless, you're missing the point. What were you willing to pay to get the rest of the season of Gourde or Pageau? I am not including Ferderic because he isn't a better centre than Laughton.
As I said. Gourde went for (2) 1sts a 2nd a Eyssimont (Holmberg) . You think Tree should have paid that?
Pageau didn't get traded. Has a 16 team no trade and still another year at $5M on his contract. Other than Nelson, who was a pending UFA, NYI didn't trade anyone (Not even Palmieri) because they were trying to still make the playoffs. How can you blame Tree for not trading for a guy that we don't even know if he was available or what the cost would be?
07 Apr 2025 12:36:49
I would argue every centreman trades minus maybe cousins was a terrible trade for the acquiring team.
07 Apr 2025 12:37:14
Should have went after frost when Calgary traded for him and farabee.
07 Apr 2025 15:57:26
I agree with RLF here your guys wouldn’t be happy with any of the centre’s that the leafs were realistically in on because they are all under performing based off what the price was if the leafs don’t resign marner there will be money to sign a quality 2-3C and a winger as for Robertson I think it’s best the leafs trade him he clearly doesn’t fit berube’s system and there’s no where higher in the lineup for him to go I’d swap him with another rfa that better fits the leafs idk who that is but there’s enough of them this year.
04 Apr 2025 11:00:14
Leafs trade First & Grebenkin
Flyers trade Laughton
This was a really stupid trade as the Leafs spent two really good trade chips and they basically got nothing back
Is Steeves not better than Laughton ? There is no way you can put Laughton in lineup come playoffs he adds zero offence . He is almost as bad as Reaves I can see a few more bad moves summer and suddenly the Maple Leafs are in reverse going backwards!
04 Apr 2025 16:56:21
Weird time to post this, Laughton has slowly been winning me over on that line, they've looked really good and he seems to have the right support for domi.
04 Apr 2025 18:28:09
Agree with Shanny, laughton has been far better.
05 Apr 2025 02:48:53
He’ll be fine.
05 Apr 2025 04:05:20
For me the issue isn’t Laughton’s play (he will be okay) as a 3rd/ 4th line left winger but the fact that Leafs didn’t need another bottom 6 left winger.
What they did need, and Treliving was supposed to acquire, was a 3rd line CENTER.
The issue is: You don’t trade a 1st round pick and a promising prospect (Grebenkin) for a bottom 6, 3rd/ 4th line left winger?
Leafs could have gotten Gourde or Pageau (with retention) for what they sacrificed to acquire Laughton.
Both Gourde and Pageau would have been much better fits on the current Leaf roster.
Nelson, Granlund, Gourde, Frederic and Pageau were all available.
How did the Leafs end up with Laughton?
Nothing against Laughton but I view this as a very poor trade for the Leafs present and future.
We’ll have to keep an eye on the progress of both Grebenkin and the player Flyers select with the Leafs pick.
Reminds me of Dubas trading down to acquire two second round picks (Dermot & Bracco) while Flyers selected Travis Konecny with the Leaf’s pick.
05 Apr 2025 13:25:23
Leafs wouldn't have been able to get Carlo if the got Pageau or Gourde. Carlo was the more important need. imo.
05 Apr 2025 18:12:29
Idk why we are still complaining about this trade Laughton is exactly as advertised he’s a bottom six guy who plays both ends of the ice and chips in a few goals every now and again and he only costing us 1.5 this year and next if he doesn’t pan out guess what…. They can trade him I didn’t love the price but that was the going rate I think treliving wanted rantanen and held out for him guys like gourde who has worse numbers went for the same price like RLF said in order to get more than one player they had to take what made sense.
04 Apr 2025 10:27:32
Leafs trade Kampf Jarnknok
Chicago 4 th 2025
Going into next season the leafs will just have to add a depth defencemen in case of injury. But they are really set in defence and goaltending
They have $66 million spent of a $95.5 million dollar cap leaving them roughly $30 million in space
Marner is playing hardball and if Leafs sign Mitch Tavares and Knies it doesn't leave them any cash to improve team once you allow $1.5 million for Holmberg and Robertson
Stolarz
Woll
Reilly Carlo
McCabe Tanev
Benoit OEL
---- Matthews-----
McMann ----Nylander
Domi Laughton
05 Apr 2025 18:19:13
I don’t think marner will be back I was doing the math and with the salaries of McCabe and woll going up and I put knies and Tavares at8 mill it leaves the leafs with 13.8 mil so the question is do the leafs finally try and build a more well balanced lineup or stay top heavy to me there a lot of players that are quality middle six player in free agency but I guess we will see what happens in the playoffs.