Leafs rumours 3

01 Apr 2024 01:00:53
Buffalo trade Perturka
Leafs trade Robertson

Perturka I may have spelling wrong I can't double Cheak it. He presently plays on the sabres top line. Now if Robertson had Marner on his line I'm sure Robertson blows by Perturka numbers

RLF this season because Robertson being waiver exempt he hasn't had the greatest opportunity but his AHL days are now over and next year he is going to get much better chance to succeed.

McMann Robertson and Holmberg have graduated and Kampf and Jarnknok are getting traded so a third round pick comes back.

01 Apr 2024 03:58:46
I don’t expect the leafs to go very far in playoffs but they could go all the way. It depends how the big boys do at playoff time

I’m more interested as to who they sign as the season ends. What’s there plans for Bertuzzi and Domi will they take less to get up to a 5 year deal . In Bertuzzi case he has to take a lot less $3.5 million but again I give him 5 years

It todays NHL the stars are going to get paid but Bertuzzi and Domi are only supporting players. Leafs are taking big chance investing in these two so they must take less Domi $2.5 million on 3 or 4 year deal.

The bonus for them is they get to play with Matthews . Austin can carry both of them as Marner can carry Robertson and Holmberg . Tavares gets Nylander and McMann

To me that’s three lines that can score . Marner just feeding Robertson as he did to Matthews would be great to see

But not to worry if this blows up in April or early may Trevliving is much better equipped to make this team 25 points better next year. Top 6 forward and 2 defencemen three goalies Woll Jones Hiildeby.

01 Apr 2024 04:31:52
Off topic here in NBA draft do you think raptors should draft Edey

Clingam is rated at 13 and the best I see for Eday is 18 and as low as 44

This kid would need double teaming and open up raptor shooters

Thoughts on Edey ?

01 Apr 2024 05:30:16
Peterka: 26g, 20a, 46pts, +10
6’0”, 189lbs

I don’t think Buffalo is trading him For Robertson!

01 Apr 2024 12:21:36
Not getting Peterka for Robertson. I had Peterka in many props in the past before he made the Sabres last year and no one really wanted him back then. Not getting him now.

01 Apr 2024 18:21:22
I liked how Mackin worded that "I don't think they'll make it far, but they might win the cup"

In a few months weathermackin will set a trap and tell us he was right lol.

01 Apr 2024 19:16:50
Think he’s saying there is a slight chance.

01 Apr 2024 20:10:17
Yes, the weatherman is known for saying there is a slight chance. Slight chance of rain. Slight chance of snow. Slightly windy. Slight chance of a Cup. etc etc.

03 Apr 2024 15:23:53
But Robertson 35 goals.
If he this and that.

31 Mar 2024 15:33:21
Tor: lily, Robertson
But: jokiharju, krebs

01 Apr 2024 01:39:10
Leaf's probably draft a defencemen. With 1 st this yeas. The team have many forwards that are breaking into top 9

Knies McMann Robertson Holmberg Cowan Minten


Liljegren maxium next contract is 3 million over 4 years that's what I would offer

That's a good number for the leafs and considering Liljegren is right sided I wouldn't move him

End of the road

Brodie
Giordano

In the mix next season

Benoit
Niemela
Timmins

Locks next season

Reilly
McCabe
Liljegren

Ufa targets

Pesce 4 years 5 million
Skjei 4 years 5 million.

01 Apr 2024 05:36:26
Pesce, at 29 years of age, is reportedly looking for that final, big contract with term 6 - 7 year at $6.5M - $7M.

I think Leafs might be better off financially to look at Matt Roy and/ or Sean Walker.

31 Mar 2024 14:21:15
Mackin

Buf
Robertson RFA

Tor
Jokiharju RFA

I had put this out before and it makes a ton of sense for both teams if Robertson is as good a s you say. Buffalo gets a "30" goal scorer and Toronto gets a mid pair RD. Both young. Both RFA's. Leafs can then look for a 2nd pair, Big LD which is easier to find than an RD, to play with Jokiharju.

Rielly McCabe
Big LD Jokiharju
Benoit (Boosh?)

31 Mar 2024 16:09:13
RLF do you really think Jokiharju is better than Liljegren?
I haven't really seen much if Jim, buy from what I have, he doesn't do anything for me.
If we're trading Robertson for a Dman I would much rather target Ferraro, who I think offers much more than Jokiharju. Don't know what else is needed from the Leafs in that deal, but this is the way I'd rather go.
And then target Roy or Pesce in the off season.

31 Mar 2024 17:15:37
Tags, yes, I think Jokiharju is better. I think he is smarter with the puck and his defensive reads are better. I think he is a #4 and Lily a #5. I would trade Lily and bring in Jokiharju if it was straight up for Robertson like I showed. You could still bring in Roy for instance.
Rielly Roy
McCabe Jokiharju
Benoit Timmins/?

I'm really good with that. Then if you can sign say Trenin (Yes, I am still on Trenin lol), who is playing 4C in Colorado btw, you start to build upfront as well. If this happens, then I am good with moving Robertson, Liljegren and probably even Jarnkrok if Domi and/ or Bertuzzi are brought back.

31 Mar 2024 18:10:43
RLF no doubt that could work, but I'm still not sold on Jokiharju as you are (I think he or Lily can play #4 spot with an upgrade at #3). Also, I think Jokiharju's next contract will be $1/ $1.5M higher than Lily's.
Rielly Roy
Ferraro Liljegren
Benoit McCabe
Timmins or UFA (Bortuzzo, probably sign him for same as Timmins)

I think I'd rather trade Kampf in the off season and re-sign Dewar ($1.15M) 4C, he has shown we'll IMO.

31 Mar 2024 19:49:40
I would be ok young asset vs young asset

But regardless of what happens leafs this spring

They have dollars to fix the defence if we plug in what we have you see what’s missing

Reilly —————
McCabe Liljegren
Binot Niemelä

You could upgrade the 4 hole and slide Liljegren down to 6 th D

PESCE is a good target leafs just need to bid high.

31 Mar 2024 21:25:15
I don’t make that trade right now; maybe in the off-season we shop Robertson but I’d like to delay that decision until the year is over.

Jokiharju is another Liligren; everything except the number of games played screams the same thing.

Both 2017 picks, Lili 17th overall and Jokiharju 29th. Similar size, Lili’s offence is better. RLF mentions better reads; I don’t see him that much so I cannot really offer an alternative view except what I see the few times the Leafs play the Sabres.

Lili has played 193 games to Jokiharju’s 340 so again let’s see if Lili steps up his game. He’s carrying the puck with more confidence of late.

01 Apr 2024 00:41:40
Yes Rsears, I think we're all just talking about trading in the off season.

01 Apr 2024 00:44:17
Tags. Yes. I didn't think that part needed to be explained as no playoff teams make trades right now.

01 Apr 2024 12:41:31
I guess I was speaking more to making the decision later as opposed to right now.

01 Apr 2024 19:17:50
No explanation needed.
The TDL has come and gone.

31 Mar 2024 10:38:00
Leafs trade Timmins

Arizona 4 th round pick

I think leafs should target the Carolina second line Pesce. And Skjei both large men 63 210 lbs

Carolina are going have trouble.keeping free agents

31 Mar 2024 02:18:44
Leafs trade Jarnknok and Kampf

Arizonia 3 Rd round piv


With Knies Robertson Holmberg and McMann all needing waivers starting next season the days of Jarnknok and Kampf are coming to a end in Toronto

31 Mar 2024 05:28:22
Robinson scored again . Keefe won’t do it but when Marner gets back I hope the lines are

Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson Holmberg Marner l
Knies Kampf Jarnknok

Matthews will score playing with anyone. Look his goal in the sequence the puck comes to him three times


Marner needs someone to get pucks stand in front of net that’s Holmberg. Also you put sniper Robertson for one timers

This can finally be a three line hockey team. The top line is running don’t mess with it when Marner returns. McMann is really nice on the second line.


Knies unfortunately needs to drop to forth line. I want the second best shooter on the line with Marner.

31 Mar 2024 10:22:50
RLF

Teuvo Teravainen is on the verge of free agency

His current salary is $5.4 million

I don't k ow what he will get in free agency his point totals have never been great yet he signed that big co teach

Goals last 10 seasons. This year going backwards

21 12. 22. 5 15 21 23 15. 13 4

His assist totals are not great either


My point is Robertson is restricted the leafs will probably tell him he gets same am Benoit and McMann

You just don't trade 22 EMERGiNG players like that that are just over 1 million bucks.

31 Mar 2024 14:14:37
Mackin. If you are saying that Robertson's best season will be 23 goals like Teravainen's has been, don't you think we can find a big man instead that scores 15-23 per season?

Plus, if Robertson is as good as you say he is, or will be, he should be able to land the Leafs a young, top 4 RD. Which do the Leafs need more, Robertson or a top 4 RD?

30 Mar 2024 12:29:20
To avs
Marner
Robertson
Niemala
2024 1st
2026 1st

To leafs
Mackinnon

30 Mar 2024 14:35:40
If you were the Avs, would you agree?

30 Mar 2024 23:15:02
RLF

Did Robinson just score only Austin has a shot like him . No let’s trade him for a 4 th rounder.

31 Mar 2024 02:15:32
You mean after the 3 turnovers in his own end?

31 Mar 2024 02:22:44
No team trades a top 3 center in the league for wingers and draft picks.
That would be foolish.

31 Mar 2024 02:00:44
Mackin. I said a 2nd and a 4th for starters. Secondly, again it was an open look. A good shot for sure. How often has he simply beat a goalie with that shot? That is one of the few times and he basically needed a breakaway to do it. I have never said he sucks. He is very careless with the puck though and isn't likely in the playoff lineup. I'm glad he scored.

31 Mar 2024 02:08:33
Mackin
RLF's proposal was for a 2nd & 4th, not just a 4th. If you're going to call someone out, make sure you get your facts straight.
BTW Robertson will not be on the playoff roster and he WILL be traded in the summer.
How many give aways did he have tonight?

31 Mar 2024 11:47:01
@wb true, but it's definitely more interesting than Kampf for a 3rd lol

Marner has played center before so he could potentially center a line and he's also a 100 point guy, Robertson in a top 6 role pots 30 for sure and niemala looks like he's NHL ready next year.
Add in two firsts and it doesn't look that bad considering mackinnon is 29 next season. Not saying it would happen but the avs top 6 would look pretty good.

29 Mar 2024 21:37:35
Good signing for Benoit and the team. He almost doubles his salary going forward, gets a 3 year deal, and still has something to play for as he will expire in his late 20s.

Tre getting him at a bottom pairing number for 3 years is also stellar.

It brought me back to the Justin Holl and Pierre Engvall signings seeing this recently. Middle 6 and bottom pairing players Dubas signed vs McCann and Benoit for Tre. I have to look at this as almost exactly the same situation, except Tre did a better job.

30 Mar 2024 02:50:15
McMann not McCann.
Dubas left McCann unprotected in the expansion draft in order to protect Justin Holl.

30 Mar 2024 03:17:54
@WB yes, I know the name, I watch him quite a lot lol.

Auto-coerect always changes it, and I figured everyone (other than you apparently), understood.

30 Mar 2024 04:49:07
It is great signing we see how many more they sign b4 end of season

Robertson 2 years $1.35 mil per
Liljegren 3 years x $3 million per
Domi 3 years x $2.5 million per
Bertuzzi 4 years $3.5 million per
Jones 2 years $1.35 million per

2 players that don need a lot of high talent around them and can drive lines Matthews and Marner.

30 Mar 2024 12:21:13
Sorry I don't want lily or Robertson back I hope they are in a pkg for a legit top 4 d man.

30 Mar 2024 13:43:00
All his signings with term are big and physical and play a heavy style of game. Not talking about Willy obviously. I mean Reaves, Benoit, McMann and yes, even Kampf. He will evaluate Boosh and Edmundson and then if he likes them, I wouldn't be surprised if he can get them at the right number to try and extend them. Benoit and Boosh as a 3rd pair tendem wouldn't upset me at all. Rielly and McCabe as the top pair. Then have to fill in the middle.

Johnny. What I have been saying for a while as well. I just don't see Liljegren do anything well enough to compensate for his lack of physical prowess defensively. Maybe with the right partner? I am definitely not sold on him being more than a #5.

Mackin. I see Robertson and Jones as the only realistic numbers you have there.

30 Mar 2024 18:03:16
I see lily as nothing more than a 3rd pairing guy as well and he's soft.

31 Mar 2024 17:54:34
Come on David, I told you to pick a new favourite.
Robertson and Llyigren will be traded at the draft to San Jose and Anaheim for picks.

Bertuzzi I would resign but only at $3.5
Domi will be not be resigned, and Jones will be replaced with Talbot.

Get on the Barbolini train David as Robertson is leaving.

26 Mar 2024 14:08:04
Big issue I see with the Flames is a lack of scoring. I am going to make a suggestion that the Flames and Treliving will put differences aside(should there be any) and Robertson goes there this summer.

Cgy
Robertson RFA

Tor
2024 2nd(Dal)
2024 4th

Calgary picks up a potential scorer and Leafs pick up some much needed draft capital.

27 Mar 2024 01:15:27
See here you go with ur Robinson trade again

Leafs could fall to seventh

In a way it wouldn’t be so bad you get Rangers instead of Florida.

27 Mar 2024 03:10:33
Since the Leafs (Keefe) seems reluctant to play Robertson a 2nd and a 4th would be fine.

27 Mar 2024 11:51:58
Waterbuffalo49


22 years old and you write him off next year he puts up 30 goals . Last night 11.02 ice time was tied for most shots on goal 6 only Gregor and Knies had. Less ice time . He played with Knies and Holmberg . Knies is really struggling but everyone cuts him some slack and Holmberg doesn’t have much of a offensive game.

27 Mar 2024 13:00:03
Oh Mackin you fell into my trap!
See, now the Leafs can trade the 2nd for Evangelista and have a 4th as well that they didn't have by keeping Robertson. Hehehe.

27 Mar 2024 17:14:27
Robertson is not an NHL player. AHL all star.

28 Mar 2024 01:28:54
Need Robertson to up his value as much as possible and use him to bring in a solid top pairing right shot defenseman.

29 Mar 2024 01:32:55
David 1 Mac

If you reread my post you will find I am not writing off Robertson or anything of the kind.
I said, “since Keefe seems reluctant to play him”

If the coach will only play a player 10:00 - 11:00 minutes per game, it doesn’t matter how good he might become.

If Leafs are intent on resigning Bertuzzi and already having Knies and McMann as left wings, there does not seem to be much room for Robertson to receive increased ice time next year either.

Robertson and a 2026 - 2nd round pick to San Jose for Ferraro and Kunin would bolster the Leafs defense and 4th line with the impending departure of Brodie and Giordano.

29 Mar 2024 20:11:44
David, Robertson is done as a Leaf.
He will be moved this off season, so pick another favorite, maybe Matthew Barbolini.

26 Mar 2024 13:37:39
Nashville Luke Evangelista

Leaf's 2 Rd round pick 2026

26 Mar 2024 14:18:56
Leafs don't have a 2nd until 2027. But nonetheless, why would Nash trade one of their better young players for a 2nd round pick 2 years from now anyway?

26 Mar 2024 17:14:29
RLF

You fell into my trap hehehe

Nick Robertson = Evangelista

You would not trade Evangelista and you are always kicking Robertson

The numbers between the two are almost equal based on games played.

26 Mar 2024 20:08:37
Mackin activated his trap card! *gasp* lmao.

26 Mar 2024 21:58:08
Leafslife,

Compare the numbers between those players and ice time.

As a side note, do you think Netflix would purchase the rights to NHL?

It would give the world access to games. I have been thinking this for a while. I don't k ow how many customers that would bring to Netflix but NHL could really use a partner like that. Thoughts?

26 Mar 2024 22:53:28
@DM it's the way you phrased that, that really got me lol.

I'm not sure Netflix wants to jump in with both feet right now. They would have to outbid not only everyone in Canada, but the states broadcast rights, and presumably international the way you're stating this.

I can see something like DAZN picking up rights before Netflix right now. Depends how the Tyson fight goes I believe.

26 Mar 2024 23:31:00
Oh no, I've fallen into a weathertrap. lol

Take a look at the two teams. Nash has only 2 forwards that have reached 20 goals and are an older overall team than Toronto. Does Toronto really need another 20 goal small guy like Robertson? Not as much as Nash needs Evangelista. No trap Mackin, context matters.
Didn't you just a day ago show a lineup where Robertson wasn't even in the top 9 trapman? I think you trapped yourself.

27 Mar 2024 15:18:58
Leafslife

Think what nhl would be getting from Netflix worldwide access

Netflix have ptoblem customers get fed up with content then quit

Life sports is Gagne changer for Netflix.

25 Mar 2024 18:38:52
What do you guys think for playoff D-pairs?

I'm agreeing with RLF on
#1 pair
Rielly - McCabe
(I think they should run with this pair remainder of season and see where it goes) .

#2 Pair
Edmundson - Liljegren
(Iike Edmundson's physicality & complete, plus he's got playoff experience. A good partner for Liljegren who is being giving the rope to move forward. I hope Lily takes it and runs)

Now I think I'm going to agree with Clarky (no Brodie)
#3 Pair
Benoit - Boosh
(Both tough and will play limited minutes. I think Benoit can move the puck up enough for this pairing, that's my main concern with these 2).

25 Mar 2024 19:38:25
Tags. These would be my pairs atm right now as well. What I have said Brodie is that if he can get his game together that is a big plus for the Leafs as then it creates more options.

25 Mar 2024 20:05:22
Agreed RLF.
I just think the first 2 pairs should be set as I've stated above and the 3rd pair will be some combination between Benoit, Lyubushkin & Brodie. With a very, very outside shot from Timmins.
Let's see how they play out rest of season.

26 Mar 2024 11:13:28
The leafs did it last year and had success running 11-7 I mean they went out and got bodies back there and moved no one out just makes more sense and also allows the leafs to get there too guys a few extra shifts my pairs would be this.

Benoit mccabe
Reilly boosh
Edmudson Brodie
Liljgren

Again I’ll die on this hill Brodie is a fine player he just needs to be deployed right keefe let’s him sit and they get good performance but then messes up the pairs just to get Brodie into the top 4 Brodie played his best hockey this year with liljgren and edmudson has looked good with liljgren so I’d play those three together and let the other two pairs that we have seen work do there thing.

26 Mar 2024 14:20:46
I don't think they go 11-7 this year. The top forwards especially looked gassed in the 2nd round. Keefe seems to be waking up to playing more balanced minutes.

27 Mar 2024 03:13:41
Reilly - Liljegren
Edmundson - McCabe
Benoit - Lyubushkin
Giordano - Brodie - Timmins.

28 Mar 2024 01:34:41
Why not Edmundson - Timmins, just to be different. I think liljigren gets traded this off season.

25 Mar 2024 15:48:41
To SJ
Robertson RFA
Liljegren RFA
2024 1st
2024 5th (SJ chooses)

To Toronto
Ferraro $3.25M/ 2yrs
***2024 1st (via Pittsburg)

***only applies if Pittsburgh is out of bottom 10, hopefully it is an 11th or 12 OverAll selection
Toronto drafts either Carter Yakemchuk or Zayne Parekh.

Is this enough?

Thoughts?

25 Mar 2024 18:50:18
I don't see the value for SJ tbh.

They swap to a worse pick, give up Ferraro and receive Robertson and Lilly.

I'd say don't do the pick swap and it's a deal.

25 Mar 2024 19:21:57
@LL what do you think it takes to get that pick?
Leafs need to draft a potential top 4 RHD. There should still be a few good potential top 4 RHD at that spot.

25 Mar 2024 21:01:13
@Tags if I'm SJ I want a massive haul for that pick.

If I'm looking at it from their point of view, if the pick ends up in the top 10, it becomes unprotected next draft. I don't think Pitts gets much better (If at all) . They could end up with two picks in the top 5 without Guentzel, Malkin, Letang and Crosby aging another year. I don't think Pitts has goaltending Jarry is just hot.

Just my take though.

26 Mar 2024 01:58:47
Sorry LL, I guess I didn't explain myself correctly.
I'm saying if the pick ends up outside the top 10, what would it take from the Leafs to get it?
It gives us a chance at Yakemchuk or Parekh.

26 Mar 2024 11:16:03
I don’t think you get that pick regardless of what you send them they are gonna be patient and rebuild through the draft and then overpay some vets on shorter term deals much like Anaheim and Chicago.