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07 Aug 2023 21:35:16
RLF

Robinson doesn't make team. Give me a break he is going to be on a third line that can score.

In trade below I say Robertson is much better than Bunting

Leafs trade Robertson

Carolina trades Bunting

Robertson is stronger this year only 21

David mackin

1.) 08 Aug 2023 00:53:22
Difficult to grasp where you are going with this post!


2.) 08 Aug 2023 02:16:23
I really don't understand the point here.

Are you saying Robertson is an upgrade in the top 6 on bunts?


3.) 08 Aug 2023 03:40:49
@DM. What exactly has Robertson proven so far? He has played only 31 NHL games and has 7 points. that's right, 7 NHL points. Yet, he is already better than Bunting?
Iirc, after his early 2 goal game last year, you claimed he will score 30+ last season whereas I said we should slow the roll a bit and if he gets 20 we should be thrilled. He didn't score another goal before getting hurt btw, which has been often.
I stand by my statement back then that 20 would have been a very good season and my statement now that he should play a season in the A with top 6 minutes and try to stay healthy.


4.) 08 Aug 2023 11:28:08
I think Robertson needs to play top 6 minutes. Whether that's at the NHL or AHL level. My guess would be AHL. Try and stay healthy, get his confidence back. At worst, bring up his trade value. Knies has definitely passed him on the depth chart.


5.) 08 Aug 2023 16:54:36
@RLF of come on RLF. don't you realize Robertson is the next big thing as far as goal scorers . destined to pass Getz and Ovie's goals totals . we just need to give him a chance. lol.


6.) 09 Aug 2023 00:51:48
Loxley is drinking the DM Robertson Koolaid;)


7.) 09 Aug 2023 14:31:16
@RLF. IT'S GRAPE FLAVOR. LOL.


8.) 09 Aug 2023 16:54:00
@Loxley. Is that sour grapes flavour? lol.


 

 

07 Aug 2023 03:44:51
Waterbuffalo 49

Are you not willing to try Jarnknok on the second line he scored 20 goals mostly being on the bottom 6

If you keep Nylander you don't have enough spots to play everyone

Bertuzzi Matthews Marner
Knies Tavares Nylander
Robertson Kampf Domi
Reeves Holmberg Jarnknok

Lafferty Gambrell McMann Steeves Abruzzese


Leafs trade Lafferty

Chicago 4th rounder 2024

David mackin

1.) 07 Aug 2023 04:35:19
Why is everyone so obsessed with Knies.

I like the kid as well, but he's still a kid. He played a handful of games and looked good, but who knows if he's ok playing top 6 right out of the gate?


2.) 07 Aug 2023 12:56:18
I think everyone still has way to much optimism with Robertson I don’t see him as a full time leaf this year he needs games and ice time something leafs can’t give him.


3.) 07 Aug 2023 16:26:43
Knies although a small sample, shows good tools and compete. I am fairly confident he will be a solid top 9 (probably top6) complimentary winger.

Robertson has solid talent and lots of drive. He still holds some decent value imo. I think he needs a full season in the A and stay mostly healthy. I don't see a positive to playing him in the NHL this year.


4.) 08 Aug 2023 04:50:37
@RLF I agree I like the kid, but development is all over the place sometimes.

I would definitely give him a good look (20 games or so), but if he can't get it together, it doesn't mean he's a bust.

People are talking about him like he's Mathews right now.


5.) 08 Aug 2023 16:51:57
@LL. True, development can be all over the place and I could be totally wrong and he fades away. I do tend to give the benefit of the doubt to guys playing College hockey as 19/ 20 year olds that went a point per game against mostly older young men. Knies looks like the real deal when I have watched him. Just my opinion of course.


6.) 08 Aug 2023 23:32:59
@RLF I think Knies looks good as well, and I agree about college players. They are generally more ready than someone straight out of juniors.

I've still seen this hype train enough though. Every prop I saw a few years ago had Bracco on the top line. B
How did that work out?


7.) 09 Aug 2023 00:53:50
@LL. You don't hear that stuff from me. That said, I do think Knies will be as a I had described earlier.


 

 

06 Aug 2023 23:42:42
Pittsburgh are all in on their old core. Injuries are coming

Only way leafs add defence is trading Nylander

Calgary Hanifin

Leafs Nylander

Leafs have so much firepower up front I think this gets done

Treliving will know what Hanifin wants we know Nylander will want near 10 million. Just not worth it

I want second and third limes with same skill. Gives teams three scoring lines to worry about

Bertuzzi Matthews Marner
Knies Tavares Jarnknok
Robertson Kampf Domi
Reaves Holmberg Lafferty

Hanifin Klingberg
Reilly Brodie
Giordano Liljegren

Woll
Samsonov

David mackin

1.) 07 Aug 2023 02:26:34
You were so excited about your defence you forgot to add McCabe. I know I am hoping for a D of that caliber in return. I think McCabe takes a spot with Reilly, means Brodie is expendable for a Zadorov to play in the bottom 2 and save some cap space.


2.) 07 Aug 2023 03:06:32
Adding a defenseman by creating a huge hole on the right side of Leafs forward roster is like robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Hanafin is a LHD which still leaves the problem of who will play the RHD with Morgan Reilly?
Who will play RHD with Hanifin?
Given Brodie’s decline through the end of last season he is not the answer.
I would prefer to work a trade with Carolina for Pesce (a RHD) to play with Reilly while Brodie can be moved back to LHD (his natural side) to pair with Liljegren on the 3rd pairing taking some of the work load off Brodie’s aging shoulders.
It would have to be a bigger deal that also brought back Jarvis to help partially fill the hole left by Nylander’s departure.
With Nylander and Necas at top six right wing for Carolina Jarvis becomes redundant.

To Leafs: Brett Pesce and Seth Jarvis

To Carolina: William Nylander, Topi Niemala, 3rd round pick via Islanders

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Marner
Knies - Tavares - Jarvis
Robertson - Domi - Jarnkrok
McMann - Kampf - Lafferty
Reaves - Holmberg

Reilly - Pesce
McCabe - Klingberg
Brodie - Liljegren
Giordano - Timmins.


3.) 07 Aug 2023 03:23:53
Preferably the Leafs would add a right shot top 4 D, but they are hard to come by. As Clarky said, you forgot McCabe, which to me means Klingberg can move down to 3rd pair with Gio and get PP minutes.

WB49. You keep trying for Pesce and Jarvis. Pesce is a top 4 RD and Jarvis is a top 6 projected 3rd year pro. Does it makes sense for Carolina to trade a top 4 D and a young top 6 forward for a top 6 forward? Jarvis is not likely going anywhere. imo.


4.) 07 Aug 2023 03:41:27
Toronto is on Pesce's no trade list, from what I read.


5.) 07 Aug 2023 05:27:32
Why is everyone saying "Brodie's decline" I don't get it.

The guy had a bad series against FLA. So did the other 20 players. If you want to judge based on playoffs you need to trade everyone not named Woll or Rielly.


6.) 07 Aug 2023 08:23:18
Leafslife…. Spot on about Brodie. Nothing wrong with him. Consistently makes his D partner better. Some of the “mistakes “ he made in the playoffs resulted from his partner leaving him in impossible situations.


7.) 08 Aug 2023 01:11:39
RLF

I didn’t forget McCabe!
He is paired with Klingberg!

I don’t feel Leafs can be successful if Giordano is the Leafs #5 defenseman for the full season.
He wore down last year and will be more susceptible this year.
At 39 years of age he is best suited for #7 who can step in when the inevitable injuries take place.

I have read that Pesce’s concern is his extension, which would have to be agreed upon before he waived his NTC.
His other concern is playing for a contender.
Leafs have the ability to alleviate both of those concerns.

If Leafs are able to acquire a top 4, RHD (Pesce), Brodie would be the perfect mentor for Liljegren on the 3rd pairing.

Reilly - Pesce
McCabe - Klingberg
Brodie - Liljegren
Giordano - Timmins

would give the Leafs one of the best balanced defenses they have had in the past decade!


8.) 08 Aug 2023 03:31:23
@WB49. I wasn't referring to your post in the first part of my response!
Which is obvious because I referred to Clarky post, which is before yours and I put your name before the part I am referring to you Which has no reference to missing McCabe in the lineup.
No idea why you are going off on me. If you are going to call someone out, at least get it right. Ironically, I'm the one that should be calling you out for saying something I didn't towards you.


 

 

26 Jul 2023 19:39:13
Great move sending Murray to Joffrey Lupel home of the retired

Leafs trade Nylander

Florida trade Carter Verhaeghe
Mackie Samoskevich

Spares leafs 2 million plus and gets us a top prospect

Nylander will have much more value than Verhaeghe in a trade so Florida would have to add a good piece

David mackin

1.) 26 Jul 2023 20:22:35
Not sure the Leafs want to give Florida any help.


2.) 26 Jul 2023 20:52:24
The leafs defence is a disaster right now but what leafs can put together now is 3 powerhouse
scoring limes.

Bertuzzi Matthews Marner
Knies Tavares Nylander
Robertson Domi Jarnknok
Lafferty Kampf Reaves

Reilly Brodie
McCabe Klingberg
Giordano Liljegren
Timmons Niemela

Maybe leafs can have a defender from, MARLIES have a great camp.


 

 

19 Jul 2023 03:02:21
Horseshack

Your trade doesn't make leafs better

There is only one trade to make trade Nylander. You need 2 pieces back a defenceman and a forward both emerging players

Leafs trade Nylander

Islanders Dobson Wahlstrom

David mackin

1.) 19 Jul 2023 12:43:06
I've heard this trade being tossed around and it makes sense to me. Leafs drop a bit in their top 6, but gain a huge upgrade at D.

This would give both Knies and Robertson and opportunity to try and crack the top 6.


2.) 20 Jul 2023 01:39:07
Not sure what this trade has to do with opening up opportunities for Knies and Robertson to play.
Nylander is a right wing while both Knies and Robertson are left wings!

I think Leafs would have to add Liljegren along with Nylander before Lou would consider adding Dobson, his future #1 defenseman.

To Islanders: Nylander, Liljegren

To Leafs: Wahlstrom, Dobson.

Islanders get the better right wing while Leafs get the superior RHD.


 

 

 

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25 Jun 2023 21:41:41
Leafs life

Marner was 25 years old last season. You don't have peak strength at that age. The two core pieces are Matthews and Marner. If 3 years from now you're paying those two players 25 million. What a team you build with remaining money

Nylander had him his contract 9 million 8 years

If he won't sign it trade him yesterday

Calgary Anderson Toffoli
Leafs Nylander

David mackin

1.) 25 Jun 2023 22:51:42
25 is basically the absolute peak of NHL players. Early thirties the decline starts.

To be honest though, I'm beyond thinking anyone is untouchable. Good teams in every sport walk away from players instead of paying them a nonsensical amount. That's how you stay competitive.


2.) 26 Jun 2023 06:55:55
I'll go further than that.

If Willy is willing to take an 8 year 9 million dollar deal. I like that a lot better than Marner at 11m.


3.) 26 Jun 2023 17:57:05
I wouldn’t say it’s the absolute peak. For many players sure, but a lot of studies show it can range between 24-29. Especially players with high end talent. A quick example is nylander, he’s 27 now and has only gotten better the past couple years, and is still trending that way as he fills out his game.

I really hope no one is untouchable.

I’d go either way at those numbers. Unless we foresee nylander continuing to mature. Imagine if he put in 100% every night? Or even 75% for that matter lol.


4.) 26 Jun 2023 19:21:34
I have been saying for many years now. Nylander will have career years this past season and his contract year. He's going to get paid because he's going to be a man possessed.

That's a really tough one to use as an example.


5.) 27 Jun 2023 00:08:46
Still fits. Career years two years in a row at ages 25 and 26, about to be a third at 27. Contract year or not.


6.) 27 Jun 2023 04:30:18
It fits for a guy that only wants money as well. Which is who he is.

He will perform best right now, because it's what influences him making 11m going forward.


7.) 27 Jun 2023 18:33:49
Willy Is out for willy only. He seems to love his life and doesn't give a crap what others think. As much as many here seem to believe, he isn't worth the effort.
Willy Is ubber talented (an argument could be made that he might be the most talented) but he has the heart of a nappalated nipple. Just hanging around and pretending he is making an effort.
As Matthews once mentioned, " when Willy is going he really goes". When Willie goes . this was his contract year, this will be a signing that will be regretted for years.
Trade both marner and Nylander.
The results will be worth it. Even if it is just choices and young talent. got to kill the cow to get the meat.
Getting into the playoffs and being clinched by March is nice but knowing the results w3ill be pretty much the same for the playoffs.


8.) 27 Jun 2023 21:13:31
@delusional glad I'm not the only one that knows Willy will be in contention for the Art Ross this year, his contract year.

After he signed an 8 year deal, we'll never see score again.


 

 

23 May 2023 04:17:10
Let's hope Treliving is not next Gm. I put him in same class as John Ferguson or Jim Benning

Everyone gets mad at the Mason Marchment trade

But Marchment was only valuable for the 18 months at the entry level contract not at the 4.5 million he earns now

Leafs trade Kerfoot
Dallas trade Marchment

That's a equal trade and Marchment makes 1 million more than Kerfoot

So Dubas didn't really lose much sleep over that trade

I want Brandon Pridham as GM I want a person who has his finger on the pulse of this Team.

Shanahan could then hire someone with experience to help Pridham

I don't want anyone coming in with heavy explosives. Let's have some fine tuning you have 2 players entering top 6

Knies
Robertson

Some defensive help mid season Niemela and the goalie of the future Woll

Do not bring back Bunting he gets 5 million plus on open market

David mackin

1.) 23 May 2023 06:44:14
Kerfoot is a UFA. That would never work.

Yes, March mentioned isn't a superstar, but he had a lot more upside than Malgin. That was why we were all perplexed by the trade. He moved out a young asset, for a useless older asset. It made no sense.

I have asked people many times before; what has Treliving done that's so bad? I don't see many things he's done that he did wrong.


2.) 23 May 2023 12:46:48
Treliving was lauded for his work in Arizona, which is why he got the job in Calgary. He was there 9 years as GM and wasn't fired, he chose to leave. Treliving would be a great choice for Toronto. Except for the Huberdeau signing (still a head scratcher) he has done a good job for the most part in getting players signed on good deals. His trade history is solid. I thought he won the Tkachuk trade considering Tkachuk said he won't re-sign in Calgary.

Unlike Dubas, Treliving was also a player. Never made the NHL, but played in the ECHL and some in the AHL. By all accounts, he was a tough D-man who played hard.

The Leafs can't afford to have another GM that needs to learn on the job.


3.) 23 May 2023 23:30:56
@RLF the Hubby signing struck me as a panic sign. He signed a guy to a long term deal because, he needed to recoup assets for Tkatchuk.


 

 

03 May 2023 12:29:36
Knies is a special player. Whatever Bunting is Knies is plus plus plus.

It's really time to trade Nylander he just takes too many nights off

Winning that trade is super inportant .

Coming back must be a Bennett but with much more skill. A big guy like Knies with a few more years on him.

I'm trying to find that player but I'm not the second coming of Kyle Dubas.

Maybe this can't happen because of the quality of Beniers but I want a young blue chip player back in the deal.

Leafs trade Nylander

Seattle Beniers

David mackin

1.) 04 May 2023 20:46:53
Hard to say that yet, he's scored a singular goal, he has potential but hard to say yet what he will become.


2.) 04 May 2023 22:08:52
I'm with Randy here. Knies has the drive and skill, but player development is always difficult to determine.

No way you get Beniers. That Nylander plus prospects and multiple firsts and even then, probably don't get Matty for that.


 

 

 

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06 Aug 2023 23:28:10
Let’s keep Robertson and Liljegren the upside is worth a lot. Salaries low and trade value low. Silly to trade those two.

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03 Aug 2023 00:38:04
I love this trade I want younger prospects and young players. This New Jersey wouldn’t do but you never know.

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26 Jul 2023 20:52:24
The leafs defence is a disaster right now but what leafs can put together now is 3 powerhouse
scoring limes.

Bertuzzi Matthews Marner
Knies Tavares Nylander
Robertson Domi Jarnknok
Lafferty Kampf Reaves

Reilly Brodie
McCabe Klingberg
Giordano Liljegren
Timmons Niemela

Maybe leafs can have a defender from, MARLIES have a great camp.

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25 Jul 2023 09:55:13
Brotherhood of Canadian teams I like it.

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16 Jul 2023 02:36:12
Leafslife

We will see what return there is and leaf’s needs top right hand shot defender

No way I trade Nylander straight up for Dobson

Islanders need this deal more than leafs do

But maybe they wait til June 1 2024 and put 10 million down

Nylander is more cash hungry than FVV.

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