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26 Jul 2026 00:51:09
Penguins
Knies
Rielly
Leafs
Kindle
Korczak
2nd 2027

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25 Jul 2026 22:27:49
Blockbuster

Leafs
Werenski
Marchenko

Jackets
Rielly
Knies
Danford
1st 2027
Joshua

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25 Jul 2026 22:05:14
If you want both I don't think this does it.

Also, who's 2027 1st is that?

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25 Jul 2026 22:10:32
Assuming the one we got from Colorado, and didn't this get posted to death already?

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25 Jul 2026 23:43:13
Leafs life
Really?
Try and keep up.

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25 Jul 2026 23:43:48
Leafsgm
If you say so.

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25 Jul 2026 22:15:27
Leafs
Marchenko
Jackets
Cowan
1st 2027

McKenna Matthews Marchenko
Knies Paul Nylander
Duhaime Tavares Roslovic
Joshua Blueger Sissons
Lorentz

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25 Jul 2026 11:32:19
Idea Trade idea

Lorentz to Buffalo for Metsa + 5th RD Pick to Leafs

Thoughts on this scenario? Personally, I think this makes of sense for Toronto:Cap Relief: Swapping Lorentz’s $1.35M hit for Metsa’s $812k contract clears over $500k in crucial cap space. That flexibility is pure gold for the Leafs' tight budget.

#13 forwards are easy to replace internally, but reliable puck-moving defensemen are harder to find. Metsa brings high end hockey iq and clean transition play.
Metsa slots in as the Leafs' #7 or #8 defenseman. He can go straight to the Marlies to log top-pair minutes and run the PP, meaning he’ll be perfectly primed whenever the leafs needs a call-up., Getting a 5th-round pick back is a nice sweetener to replenish assets or use as future trade bait. Yes he's small I know.

Would you pull the trigger on this?

Do Leafs need anymore Steven Lorentz?

Personally i want to see Blueger Joshua together again so that's why Joshua staying in leafs. And maby third player is Cowan on that line.

And Nick Paul top6 player.

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25 Jul 2026 16:24:52
Domi will be on LTIR
They don’t need to trade anyone.

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25 Jul 2026 17:31:39
You can waiver Lorentz and save $1.2m. Don’t need this Metsa guy, a 27yr old dman; we got enough of those. I’m happy with the 5th rd pick and the total $1.35m savings.

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24 Jul 2026 21:30:42
Cry baby Marner, Vegas reporters don't care about him or the other players so he has to bash the Leafs Fans and media to get the attention he craves.

He is a narcistic complainer who wants and needs attention like a little baby
This is why he makes comments and story's up.

Enjoy your silence in Vegas and stop complaining to Leaf Fans as we have already forgotten you!!

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24 Jul 2026 23:51:34
Yes it’s kind of sad to still hear about whatever is being spewed
Enough about him
We have all moved on?
Wierd he has not.

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25 Jul 2026 11:30:57
Slow news day.

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24 Jul 2026 21:04:41
Toronto– Seattle trade idea?!

To Toronto
Mackie Samoskevich
Ryker Evans
2028 3-round pick

to Seattle:
Morgan Riely
2027 2nd-round pick.

This deal would also give Toronto a little bit more salary cap flexibility by moving Rielly's contract.

Evans would bring excellent skating and puck-moving ability (Chayka likes) to the blue line, and he still has a team-friendly 1 year contract. The main target, however, is Samoskevich.

I think he has the potential to become a second-line winger within a year, while right now he's probably best suited for a third-line role. He is fast and skilled.

Toronto's bottom sixx is already crowded, so Loerentz will probably end up elsewhere. Domi is also expected to miss at least half the season, if not the entire season, which creates an opportunity for a player like Samoskevich.

And Seattle, they get pp defenseman. And 2nd round pick.

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24 Jul 2026 21:10:08
Seattle just paid a 2026 1st round pick and a conditional 2027 2nd round pick for Samoskevich. No chance this deal ever happens.

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24 Jul 2026 22:16:03
Exactly

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24 Jul 2026 22:41:59
That deal unfortunately wouldn’t get either one of those players. But I’m a big fan of Ryker Evans, I think he is gonna be a good one. Samoskevich could be a good one for Seattle with a little more opportunity then he had in Florida.

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24 Jul 2026 23:49:01
Lethargic

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24 Jul 2026 00:26:39
To Tor
Rakell $5m
To Pitt
Rielly (if willing to wave) $7.5m
Groulx
2nd 2027

To Tor
Melanson RFA
3rd 2027
To Sea
Joshua $3.25m

Cap relief of $5.75m - $2.75m = $3m
Plus Domi’s $3.75m plus I’m sure Lorentz will be traded or put on waivers cause he’s not making this line up so there’s another $1.35m if traded if passed waivers it’s a $1.2m saved. Almost $8m in cap space. You don’t sign anyone let training camp go through see what happens with your bottom pairing dmen.

I know already you are all going to say he won’t wave, that’s not enough to get Rakell blah blah blah. So change the package but I see it being enough the guy is 33yrs old and has had injuries. Or replace him with Rust instead. Either way good targets contracts are done in 2yrs which is Chayka’s contention window.

Knies Matthews Rakell/Rust
McKenna Tavares Nylander
Cowan Paul Roslovic
Duhaime Blueger Sissons
Mcewen

McCabe Raddysh
OEL Tanev
Andrae Stecher
Villeneuve Danford Chadwick

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24 Jul 2026 10:50:20
I’m definitely listening. The Leafs offence gets better.

But what about the Leafs defence?

I think if the Leafs pulled this move they’ll have to use that extra money on another D-man.

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24 Jul 2026 18:15:41
Yes, you have that luxury to go get D-man but like I said why not wait till training camp and see what u got first. Then with that cap space u can go get one either an FA that is still unsigned or maybe swing a trade for one with that cap space.

I don’t think u need to just grab one right away. My thinking anyways.

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25 Jul 2026 14:31:55
My concern is what’s plan “B” on defence?

1) If the Leafs pull this trade Rielly is gone. So now down 1x D-man

2) What is Tanev can’t get past the abdominal surgery or concussions? Now down 2x D-man

3) Definitely gonna have injuries during the long season with aging D-man.

So now down 3 or 4 D-man

4) In my opinion, Danford needs a full year in AHL to develop under Giordano and to get bigger, stronger and pro confidence. So now we’re down possibly 5 D-man

The Leafs most obvious weakness is D.

I don’t see a plan “B”.

Do you or anyone see a plan “B”?

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23 Jul 2026 14:24:57
Anaheim
Oel $3.5M

Toronto
Luneau $.865M
2028 3rd

Anaheim could still use a vet D-man that can play both sides. They kept Carlsson and the $18M to stay playoff competitive and signed 35 year old Jensen to help solidify. Oel can help that. They will still need to move some cap to likely sign Gauthier still because as I said before, you give Carlsson $18M, Gauthier isn't taking $6-$7M.

I suspect they are trying to move either Killorn or Kreider.

Leafs get younger on D, but picking up my favourite target for the past couple years in Luneau.

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23 Jul 2026 13:52:28
I like the target and think this is a fair trade RLF.
I agree Leafs need to get younger on the back end and if they can't move Rielly, then I honestly believe OEL needs to go (they don't need both IMO).

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23 Jul 2026 13:53:01
So the Ducks already have cap issues and your solution is for them to do a trade in which they take on more cap?

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23 Jul 2026 14:07:55
So I am confused. Is this a move towards a rebuild or a retool?

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23 Jul 2026 14:19:52
Ckps, as I said, I suspect they are trying to move Killorn or Kreider. Both make over $6M. So that is how the will likely try and open cap space. Take of Luneau's salary, demote Broissoit likely and they would have only taken on about $1.5M. Trade either of the others for a prospect, even if they have to sweeten the pot and they would have about $13M left to sign Gauthier and fill out the roster.

Suffering. I don't see it as either.

Luneau is a developed prospect who should be NHL ready. Right shot puck moving D, which having puck movers is a priority for Chayka. Leafs have McCabe 32, Tanev 36, Raddysh 30 and Stetcher 32 (plus Rielly at 32 if not traded). They have lots of experience. Andrae is the only young D they have penciled in and he is small and a left shot. Luneau is 6'2" and a right shot. Leafs clear some cap as well. I see it as a hockey trade for now and the future.

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23 Jul 2026 17:20:20
That ship has sailed RLF for a trade with the Ducks. You r late to the party with this one.

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23 Jul 2026 18:47:00
I arrived at this particular party 2-3 years ago.

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23 Jul 2026 19:05:11
Good comeback RLF 😂

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23 Jul 2026 19:56:49
Just curious what it is about Luneau you find so trade worthy?

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23 Jul 2026 21:40:30
Good question LukeFox. Aside from that tho maybe next offseason I’d consider this. It’s not a bad trade, but the Leafs have gambled enough with this new lineup. Adding in a young player on defense right now doesn’t sit well with me. Show me RLF your pairings and tell me why you targeted him.

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23 Jul 2026 22:41:06
Ya and have been the court jester at this particular party for everyone else’s amusement and entertainment. 🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣

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24 Jul 2026 12:23:02
Without going into massive detail, I like Luneau because he has the size, skating ability, very good point shot and great offence instincts. Joins the rush to push offence. He has matured defensively, as they concentrated on that his first half the season in the AHL. Even willing to fight when needed. If he hadn't lost a year of development due to that leg infection, he would be even farther along imo.

Simply put though, the guy has produced at every level. Gets called up for one game end of season and scores. Wasn't a shot from the point or anything, he joined the rush and banged in a rebound.
Just my opinion, but he has all the tools to be a top 4 D.

Champ, they kept me around for 2-3 years as entertainment? Awesome. Didn't see you there, guess you weren't invited. 😔😂

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24 Jul 2026 20:04:18
Ok Tomas Keberle banged in a rebound once too.

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24 Jul 2026 18:30:42
Definitely don’t want to be at the same party as you. Can only mean its guest list is full of 🤡🥴🤣🤣🤣🤣. Listening to your reasoning about Luneau is comical. You r truly a court jester. In 3 yrs he’s played a total of 14 nhl games 4pts total but he’s excelled. He hasn’t been able to break through on a ducks team that has one of the worst d’s in the league and they have so much faith in him becoming a top 4 d man they went out and signed Jensen a RD even though they have Helleson Cole and Him as RD.

I’m not saying he won’t be an nhl d man I’m sure one day he will but if he couldn’t crack the ducks top 6 what makes u think he will be a top 4 anywhere else

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24 Jul 2026 23:16:41
@ Champ.... I have had debates with RLF re: Luneau in the past. It isn't that I did not like Luneau. I just had a problem with some of the packages involved. I do think Luneau will be one of their top 6 this year for sure. Possibly there maybe top 4. Here he would have a shot at top 6 depending who our final cast is. As far as you saying about breaking through. If you look at the Ducks Defense last year. They were not a weak defense and actually had some depth. Trouba was there as well as Guas and Carlson at the dealine.

Right now he would not be might first choice for a young add to the leafs D-core but he would for sure be in my top 3 for prospects from other teams. Luneau can play left or right d by the way. But we all know you think only players that can shoot left or right should only play on that side of the rink.

We can explain it to you but we can't understand it for you.

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23 Jul 2026 01:00:12
Leafs
Nikishin
Canes
Cowan
Holinka
Danford

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23 Jul 2026 00:09:54
Damn... Luke, you know I really love all 3 of those guys. Keep Holinka in our organization (He is very very good on defense as well as being a sniper) and swap Koblar in there and I would do it.

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23 Jul 2026 00:18:02
I like Koblar out of all 3 of the other ones
Cowan
Danford
1st 2o27.

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23 Jul 2026 01:11:26
In my opinion, the Leafs aren’t even close to going big game hunting yet.

Slow down!!!

If Montreal made a move like this I’d say “Brilliant!!!!!”

Top 3x prospect pool and filled w cash friendly contracts.

Leafs have none of this, other than Knies.

Am I the only one who sees how bad our future looks?

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23 Jul 2026 01:49:58
Yes, Kingmatty, you are.

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23 Jul 2026 02:05:23
Would love to get Nikishin. But I don’t see Canes moving him.
I personally would love to see what Koblar can do on North America. He brings that bit of power forward with some decent hands and shot.

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23 Jul 2026 02:58:59
I would rather give up Knies (your other prop) if that does it, instead of all our prospects.

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23 Jul 2026 03:44:33
I'm with Tags here. I just don't see Knies' value as high as others do though.

Give up Knies and keep the prospects. Maybe the Canes even add for Knies.

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23 Jul 2026 09:08:16
Lots of varying opinions
Lol
Knies is gold
Prospects are gold
Trade him
Don’t trade him
Canes add for Knies
Leafs add to Knies.

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23 Jul 2026 12:09:29
I thought LL and Tags had more hockey knowledge than that. It’s not just about his value, guys, but what he brings to the table and how we don’t have any of that. We have lots of players that do what Cowan or Holinka do plus Danford (who is solid) but slated to be #3-4 D at best. Cheap to get via trades. That’s the difference between book smart and street smart. Some people can read you statistics until they are blue in the face but still won’t get you anywhere.

Because stats don’t measure heart, character, drive, determination, selflessness. If we had Knies, Wilson, Lee, Tkachuk and couldn’t score, I’d be all for moving one of them to help produce points but that’s not the case. We have a soft, perimeter style team and you guys want to move the few guys we have that get to the dirty areas and play for the team instead of individual stats. Knies is your next Captain, gentlemen, so maybe start showing some respect.

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23 Jul 2026 13:12:19
I get where you are coming from Clarky but Nikishin isn't just the points. He is a very much in the mold of what you want. He is a different animal. His nickname, because of the way he hits, is "Boom". Clean hits, I might add. People use the term Unicorn way more often than it should be. But Nikishin borders on being one of those for the pure, insane defensive ability, but also the ability to produce on the scoreboard.

We have talked many times about how to land players of this ilk. It sadly has to be by trade because we keep swinging and missing on them in the draft or free agency. Whether it is through a group of prospects of a Knies. To get a player like this (which I don't think Carolina is in any hurry to get rid of.) it would take a big package.

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23 Jul 2026 13:16:55
I think u guys are over valuing Nikishin. He’s a 69th overall pick 2020. He’s 24yrs old, will be 25yrs old when season starts. Has had a major concussion already and saw his minutes decrease to 3rd line in the playoffs. I’m not giving up all that for him. No thanks after just one full season in NHL as a sample size where he . To suggest Knies for this is ludicrous. I wouldn’t even do the 3 guys for him, 2 20yr olds and a 21yr old.

He got less points than Rielly playing 81g. On a way better team, Stanley Cup champs to be exact. Why hasn’t Carolina locked him up yet? They have over $9m in cap space. 🤔 Makes u wonder why they would be willing to trade him. That hit he took did something to him. I’m not willing to give up all of that to find out if he can recover from it.

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23 Jul 2026 13:25:06
We have a difference of opinions Clarky.
Knies had his best year points wise this past season (stats), but I thought he was worse than the previous year.
He looked slower and not nearly as engaged as he was previously (haven't really seen him stick up for teammates, hell, Cowan sticks up for teammates tenfolds and he's much smaller). I think Knies only plays best when he's with Matthews, but on his own he is just a player IMO. He definitely not a Wilson or Tkachuk and not a line driver! (Complimentary player).
BTW #1D trumps any winger hands down. Easy decision to make a Nikishin for Knies trade IMO.

I would love to get Nikishin and if Knies is the ask, then so be it.

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23 Jul 2026 13:49:01
I'm a really hesitant on this one and Nikishin for Knies would be a really tough one to swallow. I am always hesitant on players who were standouts coming from the KHL. Yes, Nikishin had a solid first NHL season. By no means a standout season though. His minutes were heavily sheltered. In the playoffs, his icetime was really cut back even before the injury. It's not like he is 19, he will be 25 to start the season.

He's a 3rd pair d-man so far in Carolina. A team that plays a defensive system that makes d-men look good. I'm not sure I would do the trade posted, and I am pretty sure I wouldn't do it for Knies as he is the more proven NHLer at a younger age.
That said, I never understand the argument that if people disagree it means they don't know about hockey.

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23 Jul 2026 13:56:07
Where Nishkinin was drafted is irrelevant. Having said that I’m not sending Knies in any deal for him.

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23 Jul 2026 14:24:59
Knies had his 1st test last year playing without Matthews and was -30.

Unicorn?

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23 Jul 2026 14:39:59
A lot to take in here. @ Champ I don't believe anyone has said that Carolina wants to trade him. It was a proposed trade post. He had a concussion in his first playoffs. So did Knies. As far as him being demoted to the 3rd pairing. That is incorrect. He was playing 3rd pairing the whole year. As far as his point totals being lower than Reilly's. Again.... he was playing on the 3rd pairing and unlike Reilly was also a rookie.

As far as his draft position, it is misleading, because it was during Covid and with travel restrictions the scouting of Russians was not the greatest and it's funny because when people talk about stats. His stats because they didn't get a lot of in person views of him in the draft year. the stats were factored in and he went lower because they didn't think he could produce offense.

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23 Jul 2026 15:15:59
Carolina is not actively shopping Nikishin, but many teams are approaching them. The reason being that Nikishin is pretty much under control even being a RFA. Even if they keep him or part with him for a big package. He does not have enough NHL experience to be Offer Sheet Eligible and he also is not Arbitration Eligible.

They are under no pressure at all to move him. If he plays great and they extend him. They have the money. If he plays great and they move him.... their return is even that much more. No lose situation.

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23 Jul 2026 17:30:27
They r projecting a salary hit of between $6.4-$7.9m. He has no arb rights and can’t be offer sheeted so Tulsky is in total control. As per Dreger from TSN, they r weighing trade offers for him against paying him that money. If he’s so good the price tag seems very reasonable. But for them to be looking the trade route means he is not as good as it may seem.

I’m not sold on this guy. Carolina can keep him. Danford is 20yrs old knocking on the NHL door and an RD which is more valuable to us. That’s 5yrs younger. He will debut a lot sooner than this guy did and will be better. So he would not be a guy in the package going the other way. No chance.

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23 Jul 2026 18:18:34
Gee, thanks for repeating what I already said about the arbitration and offer sheet. And of course they are weighing offers, but they're from teams that want him, not them shopping him.

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23 Jul 2026 18:47:36
So you’re option is to fill the hole we need on D by making a new hole on F. Our forecheck, heart, goals around the net all go for a crap because we need another D because you guys don’t like the pick ups Chayka already made. Raddysh and Andrae are not the answer for you guys, now we need to trade Knies to get another one? Take about Knies speed last year? Even though we all knew he was hurt and he admitted that.

Like what are you talking about? He doesn’t play good unless he is Matthews? I don’t even know what games you guys are watching. Go to YouTube and watch all Knies goals these past few years. See where he scores all his goals. Now who else scores 95% of the goals 5’ from the net on this team? Nikishin would be an amazing find but Chayka decided Andrae and Raddysh were the answer.

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23 Jul 2026 20:47:46
@Clarky
I like the D pickups Chayaka has made, but none of them really are #1D.
I know you love Knies, but we really don't have any other top end pieces we can trade without having to navigate through a NMC. Plus filling out a hole on the wing is easier than filling out a top end Dman hole.
Leafs have not had a #1D in the Matthews era and look how far we've gotten? No where, always out in the 1st round with a couple of exceptions.

We need to try something different and getting better, younger D is the way to go IMO.

Would you trade Knies for Werenski?
Would you trade Knies for Harley?

Both these targets are no brainers IMO. Trade Knies and add a plus if needed.

Granted Nikishin is not yet at those levels, but I personally can see it and honestly would have no issues pulling the trigger.

Anyways Clarky, we will agree to disagree.

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23 Jul 2026 21:20:41
I've already said Tags that I wouldn't move Knies. This team isn't winning anything, so why are we wasting our youth to try and win with this team when we know they don't have it mentally or between the pectoral muscles? . Get through this year and start the rebuild. Matthews, Nylander, Reilly plus a few others need to move and some of them want to anyway. Get guys that want to play here. Change the identity and culture. Knies is the new Captain once Austin cries about wanting to go to an American team with nice weather and cheaper taxes.

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23 Jul 2026 22:09:55
@Clarky Nikishin is almost the same age as Knies. Isn't like Knies for a 30yo?

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23 Jul 2026 22:16:32
I agree in not trading all our youth. I've already said that I would not trade all our youth and draft picks for Nikishin, but I would instead rather trade Knies for him.
Knies for Nikishin or Harley are all around the same age.

So trading a winger for a top D is a no brainer for me.
Werenski albeit older, but he really is a true #1 Norris Trophy winner, so in this case I still would give up Knies.
Obviously the targets would have to be worth it if we're trading Knies.

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23 Jul 2026 22:45:13
Yep all good for regular season Tags. But for some reason we keep forgetting about playoffs. Last year, Jordan Staal playoffs MVP, year before Bennett. Who is our version of that? After Knies who compares to those guys in playoffs? It’s always the net presence guys that are most valuable in playoffs but we keep trading them away and can’t figure out why we can’t win in playoffs.

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23 Jul 2026 23:20:02
I'm not sure what you're getting at, Clarky.
A #1D is not just good for the regular season. He is someone who can make a big impact and control games in the playoffs as well. Just a very recent example with how Colorado folded to Vegas without a healthy Makar.

Makar's injury had the single most biggest impact on the outcome of that series.
And yes, Clarky, we do need players crashing the net and digging in the corners as well. I just think it's easier to find than a top pairing Dman.

At the end of the day, we need both.

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24 Jul 2026 03:55:56
For one, none of those guys are a Makar. I’m not saying we don’t need that guy but I would use Matthews, Nylander or Reilly to get that guy as part of our rebuild around McKenna, Knies, Cowan and whoever we get from those trades.

But making this team into a contender this offseason isn’t gonna happen. Chayka got pieces to make them competitive this year but if they don’t make playoffs again or another early exit, everyone will be calling for a major overhaul.

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24 Jul 2026 10:32:43
Love the debate boys 👊 I definitely see both points of view.

“If” I was gonna trade Knies I woulda went younger. Rumour had it that both Chicago and Buffalo offered the 4th overall pick for Knies.

This year's draft was stacked w blue chip D-man and the Leafs coulda picked anyone they wanted.



Don’t forget we gotta Norris winning D-man coaching in the AHL.

Having a blue chip D-man (pick any one) and Gavin McKenna in my opinion is a great start to a rebuild.

All this while not blowing up the team and creating a losing culture.

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24 Jul 2026 11:04:49
@Clarky
We talk about trading Knies because he has zero trade protection and will get the Leafs the biggest bang for our buck. We won't get the same return for Matthews or Nylander because they both have full NMC's.
I agree we won't be a legitimate contender this year or probably next year, so we should be building for our future.

I am just saying let's build for our future with McKenna, Cowan & Nikishin/ Harley. I don't want to make the same mistake of only relying on top heavy forwards again.

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24 Jul 2026 13:19:52
@KINGmatty
Yes, I heard those rumours as well. I guess Chicago and Buffalo were probably only offering the 4thOA and Chayka wanted an NHL ready player attached to the deal as well.

The 4thOA plus Rindell would have been a great return if it was offered.

Leafs would have gotten Reid, plus an NHL ready potential top 4. Then Gio could have worked his magic and helped develop our potential top pairing Dman. Too bad it didn't happen.

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24 Jul 2026 13:49:20
@Tags97. I agree with the asset value re: Knies being able to be moved because of no trade restrictions. If at or during the season if either Matthews or Nylander or both want out. Their value goes down on a return because they will be dictating the timeframe of that scenario. It’s always best to be the GM that contacts other teams first and says “This is the direction I am going and you guys are one of the teams these players are willing to go to.

Give me your best offer.” Rather than the player's agent contacting the GM turning the tables and saying “Auston wants out. These are the only 2 teams he and will be willing to talk to.” All about timing. Ask the Rangers.

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24 Jul 2026 14:39:09
@Suffering
Star players with NMC's have most of the control, but I don't know if it really makes a difference who initiates the trade talk.
Larkin wants out and only giving a 3 or 4 team trade list. These teams low ball knowing Detroit doesn't have many options. Either Detroit trades him under market value or they keep Larkin and create a divide in the room.

It's a no win situation.
Rielly who didn't initiate wanting out (slightly different situation), but the outcome is the same. Rielly has the NMC and gave a 4 team list supposedly. Again those teams are also low balling the Leafs.
Unfortunately, this is the landscape of the NHL now. Let's see what kind of solutions/changes they come up with for the next CBA.

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24 Jul 2026 17:42:18
The meetings leading up to that next CBA should be interesting. That would make for one entertaining docu drama series.

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24 Jul 2026 18:37:33
Knies should not be traded or even discussed in trade proposals anymore. Especially when u guys wanna give him away for a guy that hasn’t proven 💩 yet. Carolina can keep him and pay him. He’s damaged goods.

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24 Jul 2026 18:45:31
Tags, I’m sorry I don’t get your mindset on this topic. We are moving Knies because he is the only one of value with no trade protection? So that’s why we move him? Past GMs have made way too many error in judgement calls with this team. You’re trying to fix it all in one year, but for some reason you want to pull from a very important part of our team to be successful for another hole that needs to be filled, which is a solid RHD, young puck moving, point producing D. Yes, every team needs one and wants one. But these teams are developing these guys and keeping them.

Yes, Hughes was different, he wanted out. If we get that type of I also believe that will solidify our D but in playoffs are forwards still don’t have the heart to compete with our own division never mind the Avs, Stars, Canes ++. Knies is one of them top 6 we have not afraid to get in those dirty areas. That’s where all the goals are scored in playoffs. We have a 23yo 220lbs winger that has some silky hands in tight, who else besides an aging JT do we have to do any of that? Keep Knies, fill that whole next year by moving Nylander and/or Matthews.

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24 Jul 2026 19:29:43
Knies is the easiest to trade (no restrictions) and will net us the highest return. All I am saying is that I would trade Knies for a top pairing Dman around the same age.
Defence is more important than wing.
That's it!

Yplus, you're not going to get the same return by moving Matthews or Nylander because of their NMC.

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24 Jul 2026 22:38:25
Of course he is going to net us the highest return Tags. It’s because every team sees what value he can bring in playoffs and he is 23. This is like the Covid conversation all over again. Arguing opinions on two different planets.
Leafs are the least penalized team in the NHL the past few years and Leaf fans think it’s because the NHL is out to get us. No, it’s because we don’t go to the dirty areas of the ice.

If we cut in the middle or drove the net a little more often, we would have the same PP opportunities as everyone else, but no, we refuse to play that way or keep anyone that does. Mind blown on this topic. I’m a big believer in building from your defence/goalie out but I’m not going to give away our only form of a power forward we have and at 23 years old. Save it for next year gentlemen, Knies is your next Captain!!

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25 Jul 2026 10:20:59
Clarky
Clearly you're not willing to trade Knies, despite saying you would. You have argued against every single Knies trade proposal.
As I've already said, we will agree to disagree on this topic.

I look forward to future debates my friend!

Cheers 🍻.

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25 Jul 2026 14:01:14
Yes, good debate and sorry I’m a little passionate on this topic. I really just don’t want to see another heart and soul guy leave. Until the next one Tags... Cheers 🍻

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23 Jul 2026 00:17:20
Knies
To Carolina
Nikishin
To Leafs

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22 Jul 2026 23:23:44
No thanks, Luke. Like the target but not for Knies. Rather give up prospects and picks then Knies straight up.

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22 Jul 2026 23:24:26
Not a chance for obvious reasons.

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22 Jul 2026 23:31:29
Hard pass from Leafs.

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22 Jul 2026 23:50:21
I will the first to agree with Luke. In fact I can almost guarantee you Carolina would want more than Knies. Nikishin will be one of the most dominant d-men we have seen in years. He can play the game at both ends of the ice any way the game dictates.

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23 Jul 2026 00:37:10
I think Nikishin will be a stud.
I proposed a Nikishin for Cowan prop before Nikishin came to the NHL a couple years ago and I was pretty much ridiculed on here.
I would do this in a heartbeat, but as Suffering says, it may not be enough.

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22 Jul 2026 15:47:58
Seattle was not one of the teams that was being discussed initially for Reilly but now depending on which rumour site you see it seems to be a team that keeps popping up now. So if it were the case here is a trade proposal I would toss at Seattle.

To Seattle: Reilly (Full Contract taken by Seattle), Roslovic (Yes we just signed him but Seattle would probably not be against it with his salary and 2 year term) Quillan, Our Colorado 1st.

To Toronto: Wright, Nyman and Jugnauth.

We might have to add to the package. But we put Wright on the right (No pun intended) side with Paul and Cowan we put Nyman on right side with Knies and Matthews and if Jugnauth (All Rookie team in AHL for Defense) and also in the AHL All star game) is ready we audition him as our Future Mateychuk, Hughes, Makar style d-man.

If he needs one more year in the AHL then he is playing with future partners, Chadwick, Danford and McKenzie and I am good with either scenario. Nyman is going to turn heads this year and Jugnauth very soon too. If we don't have those guys in our system we need to steal them from others. So yes this trade might need more. What would you give up to land these 3 and put Wright in a more protected spot on that 3rd line to get his confidence.

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22 Jul 2026 15:15:53
@Suffering

I’m ok w this 100%

• 3x young players
• cap flexibility (sign a D-man)
• off season options w Wright

Best part in my opinion is a true rebuild starts w D-man and this adds to the Leafs prospect pool. We also can’t forget the Leafs drafted D-man w #60, #69 and #79.

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22 Jul 2026 15:40:30
Yes. #60 Bilecki is one to watch this year as I think he will have a huge year in Kitchener. #69 was a very good pick with McKenzie as well. Very smart physical d-man and the smartest move was that he and Danford played as a duo at the WJC and were very, very good together.

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22 Jul 2026 15:56:06
“If” Seattle was ok w this I love the money it frees up.

• Stanley (in not sold on the price).
• Klingberg (offensive threat).

• Tarasanko (big body power forward 2xcups).
• Bunting (played well w Matthew, brat).
• Tolvanen (offensive threat).

Just a few ideas w players that are still left. Of course 1 or 2 year contracts only.

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22 Jul 2026 17:25:08
Suffering you always try to one up me when I post a trade with a team and I have to say u failed miserably. The reasons you did are pretty simple. We are not in a rebuild. Chayka not trading Roslovic who he just signed. Secondly are u seriously suggesting putting a kid who got 7pts in 28g in the nhl last year who’s a left shot on the first line on right wing? Then u talk about getting a LD who’s never seen the nhl yet a 4th rd pick as well.

Who will definitely be behind 3 other solid guys we have with the Marlies. Plus wright who no one is jumping to get cause they figure he’s another yakupov, Daigle type of flop top 5 draft pick. You said we might have to add to get these guys? You can’t be serious. 2yr window that’s what Chayka’s plan is not a rebuild. Stick to the plan this trade does nothing for that 2yr window except for closing it.

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22 Jul 2026 19:57:13
Hey no problem. Stick with what we have. Let Nyman and Jugnauth blossom there. If you think Roslovic is the answer we will go with that. So Jugnauth who was an AHL all star as a rookie will be behind 3 if our guys in the Marlies? That’s comical.

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22 Jul 2026 20:16:30
And believe me Champ U was not trying to outdo you whatsoever. I have pumped the tires on Nyman and Jugnauth for quite some time. If you feel others are trying to outdo you and upset about it you are on the wrong site. At least you interact now instead of the one word “Rediculous” posts. That shows some progress.

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22 Jul 2026 20:35:37
Keep pumping those tires. Maybe one day they won’t be flat anymore. I just don’t see your targets being worth the price of admission. Giving up the only 1st rd pick for those players. Roslovic not getting traded so adding him makes completely no sense.

If u would have said Rielly, Villeneuve or Chadwick plus Quillan and Joshua and a 2nd rd pick I would say sure but not a 1st for any of those players.

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22 Jul 2026 20:38:49
Unrealistic post.

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22 Jul 2026 20:53:56
I’d do it for Wright and Mcmann back lol

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22 Jul 2026 20:56:41
Oh well I tried.

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22 Jul 2026 21:26:30
Nothing wrong with this from my perspective man. It’s a great idea. For me I’m very interested to see what Roslovic brings first because I believe he could get 20 plus and 50 points.

He was a target a few years ago; I was interested in that happening and want to see it through. I was half joking with Mcmann coming back if there’s a package there I’d do it.

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22 Jul 2026 22:16:12
My thought on Roslovic Champ is... if he is so valuable and not getting traded what did they not give him any trade protection? It's because they grabbed out of desperation what they could on July 1 but also hoped they could find something better than him and then peddle him off eventually.

I mean 6 teams in 10 seasons can't be a bad thing, right? Why not make it 7 lol.

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22 Jul 2026 22:33:33
You really believe they signed Jack out of desperation?
Cmon
Suffering you are brighter than that?

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22 Jul 2026 22:43:14
So where do you see him fitting in?

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22 Jul 2026 23:04:41
My biggest question is... If Roslovic is going to be a goal scoring machine? Which there is no real histroy to dictate that. Why did they not tie him up for longer? If Matthews is going to bounce back with tons of goals? If Knies is going to score 40 like some predict? If Nylander is going to crank out the goals as well? Who is the magical guy that is going to set all these guys up with all these assists? If it is McKenna? Well he can only play on so many lines at a time and...

what if he has trouble adjusting. It all goes back to us still relying on a soon to be 36 year old man as our 2nd line centre. And us still after how many years not having a true puck moving defenseman that puts the opposition on the reverse when the puck is on his stick. It's good to have optimism but this rebuild is going to happen whether some like it or not.

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22 Jul 2026 23:14:34
One last comment to Champ. How much hockey do you actually watch? Nothing wrong with putting Nyman on the right wing as a left handed shot. You know why? Because that is the position he plays and that is the way he shoots. I mean, who would ever think of putting, say, a right handed shot as a left winger.

I mean, that would be ludicrous, right? Someone should tell Washington how they screwed up by doing that with that Russian guy. What's his name? Never can remember... but I will if I look at the NHL record book, I am sure. LOL

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22 Jul 2026 23:23:24
I think you fit him in after training camp, Swiss army him til you see how McKenna stacks up physically and where Cowan is. You give him a shot with Matthews because of history, and at the end of the day if you get 20 goals out of him on the third line with let’s say Paul, it’s a win.

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22 Jul 2026 23:42:06
Yeah, I have heard the Matthews Roslovic history thing before. They have not played together in 11 years. Vastly different players since then.

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23 Jul 2026 00:28:57
Again, I do like this trade or at the very least the idea of trades like this.

1) 3x prospects
2) lots of cap space

What I like about this trade @Suffering and the trade posted earlier @Champ is that it gives the Leafs options.

Both are great ideas.

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23 Jul 2026 00:35:51
By the way Champ! What post was it I was supposedly trying to oudo you on? I do feel you have a inferiority complax for some reason or another. Trust me I was not trying to outdo you. There are many others that are capable of that without me wasting my time in doing so.

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23 Jul 2026 00:31:59
🤣🤣🤣🤣 now I know you have lost your mind. Comparing Noman (spelled purposely like that) 7pts in 28g then sent to the minors to the greatest goal scorer to play the game. You just lost your own argument by saying that. Case closed.

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23 Jul 2026 11:32:11
You always like to twist things. I never compared him to Ovechkin. What I pointed out was to your incredulous view that a Left hand shot should not play the right wing. It is actually becoming more and more standard because of the better shooting angles and the wingers when winning battles in the corners are now able to fire forehand passes to the point with authority rather than weaker backhand passes.

I never once compared his goal scoring to Ovechkin. Just the strategy of off wing way. You always seem to never grasp what people on here write, because you either don’t understand or it’s just your personality to always disagree.

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23 Jul 2026 17:37:57
Ok so how bout we talk about how well Maccelli did playing on the RS being a LS player. By u bringing up the Russian you are comparing him. By stating Was did it and look how it turned out for them with Ovy. Noman is not Ovy. Ovy is one of the greatest players to play the game.

Noman will be a call up/sent down player for his whole career. Ask Kingmatty he saw my Seattle trade proposal I’m sure u saw it too but just don’t want to acknowledge it cause it makes way more sense than yours 🎤drop 🤣

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23 Jul 2026 18:31:41
Well in your mind it does. Sure doesn’t warrant a mic drop. It also should not be shocking that 30 percent of right wingers shoot left. It is a matter of how many players shoot left handed overall in the league. Last comment on this post. Go ahead and respond you can’t help yourself because we all know you like to have the last word.

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