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18 Oct 2026 19:15:13
I know it's early, but this won't be an easy hole to dig out of. Especially without our best D and 2C.
What's the plan if this season starts to go South quickly? Do you ask Mathews if he is interested in a trade? Do you double down and try to find a top 4 D? What's everyone's thoughts.
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18 Oct 2026 19:31:32
They won’t do a rebuild.
Frost and Whitecloud for 1st 2027 Hopkins Chadwick Grouix.
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18 Oct 2026 20:16:10 I feel like they would move Willy before Auston.
18 Oct 2026 20:55:19
To Tor
Hamilton $9m
Allen $1.8m
Noesen $2.75m
Glass $2.50m
To NJD
Reilly $7.5m
Stolarz $3.75m
Joshua $3.25m
Stetcher 1.35m
$16.05m in and $15.85m out.
You get out from Reilly Stolarz contracts. Replace them with 1 more year of Hamilton and Allen at less than half the cost for Stolarz.
You waiver him, bring up the Russian kid. The other 2 on expiring contracts. You don’t give up any top prospects or picks, just players replacing players but we get that guys that are less term and cheaper in certain spots.
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18 Oct 2026 20:07:04
Why does New Jersey do this deal?
Makes zero sense for them…
18 Oct 2026 17:06:39
I think Chayka might try a couple of different trades to get closer to the defense we need.
Toronto trades Villeneuve and Rielly
To
Los Angeles for Drew Dougherty (25% retained salary)
Dougherty is UFA at the end of the year so don't have to resign him, better than stuck with Rielly for three more years.
If Rielly refuses give him the Trouba treatment.
Put him on waivers and make him go to Marlies or waive his no trade.
He is a bum, he knows it and is using his no-trade class to hide behind his terrible play.
He looks and acts scared on the ice to make a mistake, because he has made so many of them over the past three years.
If that trade goes through,
Toronto trades Chadwick, Dakota Joshua and 3rd in 2028
To
Calgary for Whitecloud
A bit of an overpayment but good return with size, toughness and will to win.
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18 Oct 2026 17:50:34
Doughty?
He was washed 2 years ago…
Flames laugh off that package
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18 Oct 2026 17:54:14
You think that’s an overpayment for Whitecloud?? Calgary hangs up on that offer.
16 Oct 2026 19:15:13
To Tor
Doughty $11m
Kuemper $3.5m($1.5m ret)
To LA
Reilly $7.5m
Stolarz $3.75m
Wood $2.5m
Danford
To Tor
Dunn $7.35m
To Sea
OEL $3.75m
Joshua $3.25m
Chadwick
1st Col
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16 Oct 2026 18:34:06
The LA trade is laughable. Trade an overpaid, underperforming D for a grossly overpaid and underperforming D.
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16 Oct 2026 18:48:18
Doughty is still a serviceable defenceman and his contract is up at the end of this year Bob. I think the intention is to get out from under Mo's deal.
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16 Oct 2026 22:27:44
You don’t pay “serviceable” players 11 million.
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17 Oct 2026 00:45:44
Doughty brings a lot more than on ice presence. Invaluable experience and knowledge in the dressing room. Plus La needs a goalie Stolarz fits the bill and we take Kuemper who is on an expiring contract.
Reilly is serviceable in the right situation which would be playing beside one of the veteran guys like Dumoulin or ceci. Stolarz is the main piece here for LA.
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17 Oct 2026 11:44:07
The goal for the Leafs is to get younger on D. Acquiring Doughty while giving up Danford in the exact opposite of that.
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17 Oct 2026 20:39:32
@Bob As I said, Mo has years left, Doughty one year.
I keep seeing everyone complain about Rielly's deal, but now that it's solved with this deal everyone craps on the deal?
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17 Oct 2026 12:23:16
Please Bob stick to nascar and let the hockey minds speak. Danford is still a year or 2 away from being ready for nhl. If u want to get younger it takes cap space and assets. Doughty is there for this season but you’ve gotten out from Reilly and Stolarz contract moving forward.
That’s $11.25m gone off the books for the next 3 seasons. Picking up Dunn and resigning him gives you a great 1st pair LD. Him and Raddysh would be a crazy tandem. Plus McCabe and Doughty. Your third pair consists of Blankenburg Stetcher and Tanev when he gets back
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17 Oct 2026 21:41:17
@Champ Dunn isn't a first pair. He's no different than signing Raddysh again.
You can only have so many puck movers with a Tanev to cover for them.
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17 Oct 2026 23:28:06
Leafs life, are you serious? Dunn is a beast. Look at his stats. He is definitely a first pair Dman. Plays 22+ mins a game. PP PK is almost averaging a pt per game. Has had consistent seasons of 40+ pts for the last 4 seasons. If that’s not first pairing then I don’t know what is?
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17 Oct 2026 23:29:59
I don’t see that LA deal as a good one at all. Trying to get rid of Reilly's contract or not. A Dman that’s a year or two from retirement, has slowed down a fair bit the last year or two. We all also agreed that he looked out of place at the Olympics and/or FourNations. Stolarz is better than Kuemper (who is also ready to retire), plus give them our best D prospect? No wonder why we never have good D, it’s because we never develop them, we trade them once they have any value.
What if Matthews leave and we start Rebuild/Retool and we have a bunch of mid 30 year olds close to their hockey death bed?
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18 Oct 2026 17:48:31
Doughty is washed and you give them Danford?
Plus we get Darcy the sieve?
Horrendous.
I doubt the Kraken even considers that trade
Essentially it’s a late first for him as the other pieces are…. 🤷♂️…
15 Oct 2026 16:36:45
When I look at LA's start and their roster, it doesn't look good. An aging Doughty still playing 20 mins a night. Two older goaltenders, an aging forward group and not a lot of young star type players on the roster.
Makes me wonder if things keep going bad, will they start to look at making moves and if so, could Mikey Anderson become available. He is not the big bruiser type, but plays physical, good motor and very good shutdown guy that can move the puck as well. He went from playing over 20 mins a night for the last 6 years to only 17+ this season. Laviolette has him on the 3rd pair most nights after playing so many years on the 1st pair with Doughty. He can't be happy about that.
What's Anderson worth? He would certainly fill a void for the Leafs, only 27 and signed long term at $4.125M per.
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15 Oct 2026 19:19:17
I like the target. I'm not sure his worth. I feel like Joshua would have to go the other way for Cap purposes. Maybe
Joshua
1st
Prospect (Johansson?)
I would love to hear other people's thoughts on this as well!
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15 Oct 2026 21:45:19
27 years old and still called Mikey? 😂
I agree with Leafs forever
Joshua for sure is in the trade.
If not him then OEL.
Then add Haymes and Bilecki?
Nice post, RLF.
Never thought of him but he would be a nice add.
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16 Oct 2026 03:30:06
I'd prefer Luneau from the Ducks I think it is.
20+ minutes a night.
Why didn't anyone mention him before?
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16 Oct 2026 09:01:16
After last night's collapse something needs to happen soon cause Stetcher -3 and Reilly -2.
These guys are dumpster fires. Issue is the way Reilly is playing he needs to be packaged in a bigger deal with prospect or Col 1st plus some retention.
Stetcher can be also just thrown in on a bigger deal. Chayka needs to get things going. Supposedly that Raty move was to open up a NHL contract space on the 50 man limit they’ve at 49 right now so let’s see what he has in the works.
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16 Oct 2026 12:14:32
Leafs Life, to answer your question he just got signed to a new contract worth over $7m and frankly has done nothing to prove he deserves it other than he’s young. He’s a third pairing guy who has 14 games NHL experience in 3 seasons prior to this one and in 6 games this season has 1a.
It’s his last season at 865k b4 $7.2m for the next 5 seasons kicks in. No thank you.
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16 Oct 2026 12:15:51
@LL Anaheim won't trade a guy they just extended 2 weeks ago.
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16 Oct 2026 14:35:19
Champ and Hrenklin. It's a joke. I am pretty sure LL's comments were because for a few years I have pushed for getting Luneau. Back to when he was still in Junior. Noe he gets the big contract out of the blue and playing 20+ mins a night. He is not a 3rd pair guy. He is a top 4 talent. He is being put in a more defensive role and is an offence d-man.
Almost no PP time and playing PK. Not the best situation for him, but Anaheim doesn't really have much choice. He is being thrown into the fire and pretty obvious the Ducks see massive value in him as well. He could very well end up being a steal at $7.2M. Worst case scenario, he becomes a 2nd pair D-man and his $7.2M will be fair.
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16 Oct 2026 16:43:21
Look at his track record. Coulda would shoulda. Not taking a chance on a guy who got paid b4 proving he’s worth it. Ducks can keep him.
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16 Oct 2026 17:07:24
This was all before the contract and it is moot anyway. They aren't moving him.
His track record is actually quite good though, so not sure what that means.
15 Oct 2026 00:14:08
If Hronek hits the market he's getting a ransom. After seeing that Habs trade I have to assume Hronek gets an A prospect+1st+ maybe a young roster player.
I'd say in order for Vancouver to say yes it's closer to Danford+Cowan+1st.
The market dor D is kind of out of control. So few top pairing D-men exist, even if Hronek is a 2 not a 1.
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15 Oct 2026 21:47:28
I think we are close in the Hronek value LeafsLife
I would put him first pair with my pal Mr Rielly 🫣.
So let's get ready for Joshua to return to the line up. Possession wise this is a better deal for the Leafs. They add $500k in salary for a younger player with same term who shoots more and shoots 7mph faster than Joshua.
He has 3% more average offensive time with almost 4% less done time. And Zary averages 10 points more per season.
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13 Oct 2026 20:07:53
All stats all the time. Maybe stop and think for yourself…. What does this team need? Does getting 20 of the same type of player win you anything, or make a good team in playoffs?
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13 Oct 2026 21:53:22
Zary is much more of a fit than Joshua who could be back by the end of the month. Who knows. But we can more likely get a pick back in return for Zary down the road than we would for Joshua.
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13 Oct 2026 22:39:59
I would say there is a zero chance Calgary falls for that buffoonery 😏 of a proposal.
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13 Oct 2026 23:59:17
You r stacked at forward. Why on earth would u want a guy that just cleared waivers and no one thought to claim him? Says something, no thank you. Btw you stats are hilarious if u think 3% or 4% and whatever else u r saying makes a difference when comparing him to Joshua.
Joshua won’t even break the line up when he gets back; if he does it will be in the fourth line. Most likely replace Groulx and see if him and Blueger reconnect like when he was in Vancouver.
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14 Oct 2026 11:51:10
Zary was on waivers and could’ve been had for nothing. No one wanted him. The only way you take him now is if Calgary wants to include him in a bigger trade for Whitecloud. In any deal like that the Leafs would need to send Joshua, Danford and the Colorado 1st I think.
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14 Oct 2026 14:50:22
Lol what? You think the Leafs need to give that up for Whitecloud?
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14 Oct 2026 16:30:17
For Whitecloud? Is he possessed by the spirit of Bobby Orr or something?
Whitehouse is a bottom pairing D.
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15 Oct 2026 13:32:46
It's trading 1 undumpable player for another one that's younger, and better as a whole. Either way when Joshua gets off waivers we'd have to send him or someone else down anyways.
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16 Oct 2026 12:17:42
Zary, another 1st rd pick dud. 25 yrs old has done nothing and is making 3.775m. No thank you. Keep your stats.
13 Oct 2026 10:39:07
Tor: Wood 2nd and maybe toss in Rafi
Cgf: Middleton
Everyone wants the big shinny toy, the big name, when the Leafs need a McCabe.
Middleton is a shutdown player, big plays physical, eats pucks, and can log minutes.
He also is signed for another couple years at 4.3.
Left side becomes McCabe Middleton Reilly.
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13 Oct 2026 13:02:44
I dont think his analytics fit the Leafs build. Hes also a lefty on the older side. And has near identical stats to Troy Stecher. Hard no on this guy.
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13 Oct 2026 13:21:49
Middleton imo is the last type of player the Leafs need. Their main problem on defense is their ability with the puck. The turnovers and the missed passes and just being useless at the point has deterred this offense.
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13 Oct 2026 13:34:33
Sure they need better passing and exits from their Dmen but they have zero physically from them as well. So Middleton would help that.
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13 Oct 2026 13:58:16
Whitecloud replaces Tanev perfectly. Only 29 yrs old and signed to a very reasonable $2.75m for another few seasons. It’s a no brainer and won’t cost u a lot in terms of assets and picks.
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13 Oct 2026 14:02:24
From what is being written in the news it’s getting close to a deal. Especially now that Tanev is pretty much going to LTIR.
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13 Oct 2026 16:32:42
I’m kinda taken back at the takes on Middleton, he’s old? He’s 30, 6’3, 220, who has averaged 17+ minutes a game for the past 6 seasons, also averages 150 blks and 100+ hits a year for a team that struggles to find a shutdown guy after Tanev gets hurt.
This is exactly the type of player the Leafs need, not to mention he’s on a McCabe like deal. We don’t need offence from the blueline, that’s what they pay Raddysh and Reilly for.
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13 Oct 2026 20:15:15
I personally like it Goat. I keep saying we need a sheriff on the back end and he would fit the bill. Plus, like you said, help out the physical side, block shots, PK, sticks up for teammates and especially the goalies.
Whitecloud is another good option, tough to say who would fit better on the Leafs but Whitecloud is cheaper. Depends on asking prices, I guess.
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13 Oct 2026 23:51:01
I disagree. You have Middleton who’s a 3rd paring LD at $4.35m compared to Whitecloud who is playing a 2nd pairing at RD at $2.75. A year younger, half the salary, and replacing exactly the guy u just lost on your roster, it’s a no brainer, Goat. Middleton doesn’t fit that, and I'm sorry at almost 1.5 times the cap hit, no thank you.
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14 Oct 2026 07:20:11
@champ Am I missing something here...? The numbers don’t support what you’re saying. I’ll grant you he’s on a cheap contract but his numbers show he isn't a Tanev replacement.
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14 Oct 2026 11:52:31
Champ... No one has reported that a deal is close.
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16 Oct 2026 08:56:10
Goat, this season they r identical players, same hits, shot blocks. Only difference is Whitecloud plays 21 mins and Mid plays 17 mins. Ones a 2nd pairing the other a 3rd pairing. Like I said one is RD, one is LD. Plus one is younger and cheaper so don’t challenge me about the numbers don’t support that. Nice try.
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16 Oct 2026 14:52:59
Neither can replace Tanev. It would be hard to find anyone that can replace all that he does.
13 Oct 2026 11:01:28
I don’t hate the trades, but that third pairing of Rielly and Blankenburg would be the softest pairing in the NHL and they would get eaten alive!
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13 Oct 2026 22:42:20
I don’t disagree with you Marner
My hope is the top 4 D plays 50 minutes
lol.
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13 Oct 2026 23:45:33
Way too much for both players. 🥴🤣
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13 Oct 2026 23:56:32
@blue white Koblar period for Whitecloud?! Nope not happing like this kids gonna be really good dunno why? For Whitecloud lol try again. An we get the deal for Edvinsson done with that let’s do it! Now, can’t see it dude.