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01 Jul 2026 16:57:53
How in Hell did we miss on not getting Bourque and Lybushkin for what Nashville did. A 2nd in 2027 and a 3rd in 2028? I thought I was reading a misprint! That is a steal.

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01 Jul 2026 16:06:36
Can’t get everyone

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01 Jul 2026 16:25:05
True but it seems like a pretty low price to pay. It was brilliant of Nashville to pull it off. If they would have offer sheeted Bourque in the 5-6 mil range, they would have had to give up a first and a third in 2027, so if they sign him it is a screaming bargain.

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01 Jul 2026 16:47:09
To Tor
Marchenko $3.85
Werenski $9.6
Merzlikins $5.4
3rd 2027
To CBJ
Knies $7.5
Stolarz $3.75
Rielly $7.5
Robertson (RFA rights)
Danford or Villeneuve
1st rd 2027

I know Reilly won’t wave, but if he goes with a bunch of buddies I can see it happening. Stolarz is a solid back up to Greaves.

Cause putting the younger goalies in the package doesn’t give CBJ stability behind Greaves. Stolarz does as a back up. Rielly replaces Werenski. Knies replaces Marchenko u get Robertson as well plus Danford or Villeneuve who are knocking on the doorstep to NHL. Plus a 1st.

Provorov Severson
Rielly Fabbro

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01 Jul 2026 15:40:41
Now two look-alikes are either gone or soon gone; Robertson and Maccelli.

Not much in return for Robertson; pretty certain Chayka wanted to move at any cost!

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01 Jul 2026 15:09:34
Given that Werenski vetoed a trade to Dallas to stay in the East it's a required “all in” for the buds. However I’m not sold on trading Knies. Since Knies can play either wing he could use his size and go to the net. I believe he could be a steady 30 goal scorer on a line with Auston and Gavin.
Therefore Mats needs to stand down and let our prized Swede go for Werenski to allow us more cap to sign more free agents.

We all know Willy doesn’t play a 200 foot game and Knies does. Therefore:

To Clb- William Nylander, Alex Nylander, Dennis Hildeby, Oliver Ekman-Larson, Ben Danford, Cade Webber, 2027 1st(Col), 2027 3rd

To Tor- Zack Werenski, Kirill Marchenko and Mathieu Olivier

Salary Out-(Little over 19 mil USD)
Salary In-(17.4 mill USD)

Likely a pipe dream but we can all hope!

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01 Jul 2026 14:53:16
I hate Willy Nylander (aka Silly Peelander) more than Anyone but I think he would be a hard no go’n to Columbus.

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01 Jul 2026 15:13:01
So Darren Dreger posted Knies is not part of the package offered for Werenski. 🤔

•Cowan
•Danford
•Hildaby or Akhtyamov
•Colorado’s 1st

🤷‍♂️

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01 Jul 2026 15:47:59
Fully agree Willy isn’t going to Columbus so find a third team with a good player with no moves and makes it happen!

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01 Jul 2026 11:51:11
To ClB: Cowan, Robertson rights or S&T, Tyler Hopkins, 1st (2027-Col), Hildeby. Let ClB start the rebuild.
Toss in Andrae if they want a D

To Toronto: Marchenko, Olivier

To continue off RLFs post.

I think it costs a fair bit of youth but I would do it for these two players plus it would piss off MTL who is hard after Marchenko after Leafs said no to Knies.

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01 Jul 2026 12:06:31
My gut is telling me the Leaf put in a final offer for Werenski (take it or leave it) and wanna know by noon. So essentially the Leafs will have 2x game plans, one w Werenski and one without. 🤷‍♂️

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01 Jul 2026 12:15:14
I hope not, Matty. I’m not willing to give up what it takes to get him for 2 seasons. We have Raddysh as our #1 D for PP and so on. Can you see a world where we pay Raddysh 8.5M to not be our quarterback on the PP? I think they may keep Reilly.

All we would need is a Stanley or Oleksiak to round out the D, not that I agree with keeping Reilly.

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01 Jul 2026 12:41:45
I definitely appreciate your thinking. Hard to pass up on Werenski tho. My fear is we trade young guys (Knies/Cowan/+/+) and both Matthews and Werenski walk 2x year from now.

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01 Jul 2026 13:33:25
The other scenario too is we give up Knies and Cowan for Werenski. Then do we hope Werenski can play one shift at Defense then 2 shifts at forward and so on. Because someone has to replace 2 forwards now as well.

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01 Jul 2026 14:01:45
That’s why I posted earlier that I’m guessing the Leafs gave Columbus a final offer (take it or leave it). The Leafs need to know by noon so they can plan accordingly.

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01 Jul 2026 14:48:58
KINGmatty lol damn you have some weird stuff upstairs EH.??
Werenski to play a shift on defense and then forward.!??
He’s a Defenceman and would not play forward if you watch hockey you might understand.!!
I can’t even read your stuff.!

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30 Jun 2026 20:39:17
One interesting rumour that I truly was left scratching my head was Vegas trading Hertl to the Leafs to free up cap and in exchange for Knies, a prospect and a draft pick. First thing that struck me was how in the world that helps Vegas to free up cap. San Jose already pays 17% of Hertl's salary, so Vegas cap hit is $6,750,000 and Knies' contract is $7,750,000. So it doesn't help Vegas cap; it increases it by a million. Kind of a unrealistic rumour package to be honest.

I would love Hertl as a Centreman here.

I think Vegas is under the gun on their cap and he could be got for a Package with Prospects and picks that decreases Vegas cap. Keep in mind Vegas has $4,625,000 to sign 7 players. Who could we offer up that would make them mull moving him here? They obviously can't save the who $6,750,000 of his contract but if they can save half and fill 2 of those spots at the same time perhaps That would help them immensely and obviously help our Centre situation?

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30 Jun 2026 20:08:40
I guess from a money standpoint it would be Cowan and Robertson and maybe a pick if needed.

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30 Jun 2026 20:40:33
Hertl is overrated.

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30 Jun 2026 22:14:04
That's why I said initially that the package was kind of unrealistic. If we could get him for a realistic package that doesn't totally screw us then it would give us another centre. That initial package that was floated out there was obviously one that Vegas wanted to get.

I can guarantee if they had got that package they would have kept the prospect and the draft pick and then flipped knies for a couple more prospects at lower Salaries.

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30 Jun 2026 23:03:26
Wouldn’t trade Knies straight up for him.

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01 Jul 2026 01:09:01
Neither would I. I think 2 prospects with minimum league contracts or one prospect and Lorentz at his lower salary might pry him loose. Vegas is really screwed on the cap. There really is no-one else there they would part with that has enough cap they could move to make a difference.

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01 Jul 2026 02:18:35
Any trade for Hertl that has Knies or Cowan’s name involved is beyond ridiculous!

More like Domi and Joshua for the 32 year old Hertl.

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01 Jul 2026 03:10:17
Friedman already shot down any validity to the rumours of Hertl to the Leafs. Generated by fans, not media. Ridiculous is what he called it.

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01 Jul 2026 14:50:38
Sufferingsince1967
I agree with you! 100% more realistic than most on here!

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01 Jul 2026 14:53:35
HERTL FOR KNIES.!! Lmfao 🤣
Hertl is no where close to Knies.!!!!!!
Vegas would have to add Theodore and multiple picks..!!
Do you even watch hockey KINGmatty.???
That’s the dumbest trade rumor that you made up as Nobody has ever mentioned Hertl in the same breath as Knies.!!
Give your head a shake and wake up.!!

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30 Jun 2026 19:00:32
All the talk of Werenski, but a guy not talked about very much on here that I think could play a big role for the Leafs if they could get him, is Voronkov.
25 years old. He's big, physical, will fight and pretty good at it. He puts up points at even strength and the PP.
At $4.175M this year and then an RFA.


With Columbus having Olivier locked up long term and the possibility of Werenski leaving, could Columbus look to retool?
If Werenski goes, maybe the recently acquired puck mover Andrae with a + would interest Columbus. Maybe Andrae and Joshua. Or Andrae and Robertson as Columbus could use some goal scoring.

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30 Jun 2026 18:50:44
Danford and Robertson

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01 Jul 2026 01:27:54
I doubt Chayka would trade Andrae after just qualifying him. Even though the qualified Robertson - if he doesn't get term on his contract, he will just ask for a trade again.

I also don't like giving up Danford, as I see him as a big part of this team moving forward, so I say
Nic Robertson + Dakota Mermis + A Pick?

Does this get it done?

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01 Jul 2026 03:14:03
I’m targeting Marchenko. He’s the guy you want out of CBJ. Werenski is a long shot but Marchenko can be had and won’t cost you a king's ransom like Werenski.

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30 Jun 2026 17:36:49
With open season staring tomorrow, I really hope the Leafs are careful on how they spend, especially on D. There are a couple of guys, but with what Kesselring just got, there are going to be teams ready to spend $3-$4M+ for 3rd pair guys. I am hoping they pass on those types over over pay and look to add a guy that is young, has matured in the A and looks ready for the NHL.

Guys like
Luneau (of course). If Anaheim chases Andersson for instance, can that make Luneau available? Solberg is possibly ready too I believe.
Pohlkamp in SJ
Montreal has a gluttony of D.

Reinbacher, Struble, Guhle, Xhekaj. Plus Pickford.
Utah has 8 D signed. Is Lamoureux available. What about Duda, how does he fit in. Morden isn't signed yet.
Rangers have 6 D signed with Schneider and Iorio as RFA's still. They also have Robertson and Fortescue already signed and are both fairly young. Morrow doesn't have a contract either. They have Emery and now Smits as well.

Point being, I'd rather see them move a guy like Robertson or whoever and acquire a young guy, even if not try proven, instead of overpay for a UFA.

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30 Jun 2026 16:47:27
To be clear, I am not saying all guys mentioned are ready, but there are possibly some opportunities to grab some younger, not in a team's immediate plans guys that could be a good move for the Leafs.

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30 Jun 2026 21:16:31
We already have a bunch of those guys.

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30 Jun 2026 17:03:22
It's pretty much a given Leafs are getting Bob tomorrow, since Markstrom was just picked up by Florida.
Leafs have the cap space, so AAV shouldn't be a problem. I just hope the term is not longer than 2 years though.

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30 Jun 2026 16:34:06
If that’s the case, then I hope Chayka is trading Stolarz away today b4 his no trade list goes up to 16 teams instead of 8 teams. Cause with Bob you don’t need Stolarz.

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30 Jun 2026 16:42:11
Florida also picked up Schmid, so yea, Bob is gone. I don't like the idea of them getting Bob at all. He wasn't great in the playoffs. He had some great games every year, but it's not like he was the main reason they won. Add his age, money and term he may want and stay clear of this potential mess.

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30 Jun 2026 17:03:54
I really hate this Bob idea. He was horrible on a much better defensive team and is pushing 40. He isn't getting better at his age.

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30 Jun 2026 19:20:32
@LeafsLife
I'm not such a big fan of it either, but we do need someone who is reliable as far as availability! We all know Stolarz is made of glass.

These rumours might just be from the 'insiders' blowing smoke. Chayka has been pretty quiet about his moves to date. Maybe we get completely shocked moving forward.

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30 Jun 2026 21:19:29
They said they were happy with the goaltending situation as is and ya you’d have to trade Stolarz or Hildeby.

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30 Jun 2026 15:47:56
Knies for Jason Robertson 1 for 1. Who would you prefer?

Robertson has more offensive upside and may be willing to play with his brother but would cost twice as much as Knies.

What about part of a larger package? Ie

To Toronto: Robertson and Bourque (both signed)

To Dallas: Knies, Danford, 2027 1st Colorado

Or if Dallas is willing to part with Harley, then add Cowan and replace Bourque with Harley

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30 Jun 2026 15:09:01
Personally I don't care for Robertson, very one-dimensional player and, like you said, costs a lot more.

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30 Jun 2026 15:18:05
Robertson turned down 15. If he wants anything close to that I say no. That just sets up another Nylander/Marner situation where two wingers make a ton of money.

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30 Jun 2026 15:24:38
No thanks

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30 Jun 2026 16:03:22
No real desire for either Robertson.

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30 Jun 2026 16:34:39
To hell with Robertson. My buddy thought I was gonna blow a gasket when he turned down both Seattle and St. Louis. Because they weren’t contenders. 2 teams with very deep depth in their organizations that will be contenders quicker than some realize. Oh… he must not think highly of himself as a player to realize he could have led the charge for either team.

My ultimate karma would be that he signs eiyh a contender that runs into issues in 4 or 5 years and needs to retool or rebuild. He then wants out and has 2 the top contenders on his list Seattle and St. Louis. Who both say“ Sortu dude we needed you then we don’t need you now. Enjoy life in the down elevator.

Ok…. I feel better now. Needed to vent in this heat. lol.

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30 Jun 2026 16:45:22
It's a run in the family attitude. Nick acts like he is owed something as well.

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30 Jun 2026 17:40:55
For the money I’ll keep Knies hands down. Absolutely not moving Knies. And please God don’t sign Bobrovsky.

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01 Jul 2026 02:23:49
Paying twice as much for Robertson as Knies would lead to the logical conclusion that it is a bad deal.

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30 Jun 2026 14:52:39
Man oh man the RFA and UFA pickings are very slim indeed. If I was looking at doing a offer sheet with the Maximum limit we could do at $4,775,666, I would be targeting Bourque as Dallas might not be able to have the cap to match.

Other than him, Hayton or Krebs. As far as UFA's, nothing jumps out. Hate to say it by Macelli will actually get a decent payday from someone that is how slim the field is.

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30 Jun 2026 15:10:03
Free agency has a lot of depth adds and the Leafs need to basically rebuild their 3rd line.

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30 Jun 2026 15:18:55
@Suffering Yeah, there's basically nothing, which means Laughton type guys will get 6x6. No thanks.

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30 Jun 2026 16:02:51
Leafs have to be careful how they spend for sure.

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30 Jun 2026 16:09:04
@goat. To be perfectly frank with what’s left out there. I would be happy using Groulx flanking Holinka and Koblar or Robertson, not ideal... Trial by fire so to speak. The first 3 are all good defensively. For all they rave about Holinka's offence they praise his defense even more.

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30 Jun 2026 16:40:40
Bourque not signing an offer sheet unless the first number starts with at least a $6 in front. Benson just got 7x$7.5m. Bourque is a RS C. Where Benson is a LS C/LW. I see a similar contract coming as Benson. Whether it be Dallas or an offer sheet with a little lower aav due to being in a non tax state.

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30 Jun 2026 17:32:43
What r h taking about there’s lots of quality depth dmen and forwards. You r delusional if u think Laughton is getting 6x6. $4.8m is not getting u Bourque. Benson just signed 7x$7.5. Bourque wouldn’t even sign an offer sheet that low

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