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05 Jun 2026 01:36:59
Back at the Rob Thomas scenario

Leafs
Thomas

Blues
Cowan
Woll
Robertson

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05 Jun 2026 01:38:59
It's not bad, but I don't want to get rid of Cowen, he's young and skilled. Maybe we can look at him as center, even if it means starting him on the Marlies for a good run before the NHL.

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05 Jun 2026 02:28:23
Great deal for the Leafs but I don’t think St Louis bites.
Cowan and Robertson are both closer to 3rd line players than 2nd line players.
After Woll’s disastrous World Championship teams may have a different view of him.

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05 Jun 2026 08:42:53
Right now I don’t think the Leafs need a play maker which is what Thomas is. They will have McKenna and Cowan. I think they need a two way centre if anything.

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05 Jun 2026 13:00:50
Lol Goat2.0

Do your homework before spouting off…

Robert Thomas is an elite, play-driving center for the St. Louis Blues known for his exceptional hockey IQ, world-class passing, and strong two-way game. Drafted 20th overall in 2017, he has developed into a consistent, near point-per-game player who dictates the tempo of the game and excels at creating high-danger scoring chances.

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05 Jun 2026 13:40:45
@ Goat Thomas is one of the best 2 way Centres in the league. I love Cowan but if St. Louis bit on this I’d do it in a heartbeat.

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05 Jun 2026 14:00:36
You beat me to it Golftown lol.

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05 Jun 2026 15:14:24
That would be a tough trade to say no to as a Leaf fan. Not sure STL would do it. Depends on what direction they want to go and if this turns out to be the best offer, which I don't think it will be.

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04 Jun 2026 21:29:42
To Tor: Larkin, Kasper

To Det: Nylander, Hildeby, Robertsons RFA rights, 2nd rd pick 2028

Knies, Matthews, McKenna
JT, Larkin, Kasper

For our top 6? Would love to get Larkin as he has asked for a trade out of Detroit.

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04 Jun 2026 22:35:55
Detroit doesn't want any goalie prospects. They have 2 and are actively looking to trade 1.

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04 Jun 2026 22:50:09
If he has made trade demands as Friedman has said, then Detroit is not going to be getting a Nylander or another big name. That also has a no trade. It will be to a team that has some veterans that Larkin would like to play with that also has cap space and prospects and Draft picks to woo Yzerman to trade him to them.

Do I see Kyle Dubas and Sidney Crosby waving to Larkin? That would be a game changer adding him in Pittsburgh.

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04 Jun 2026 22:50:39
Change to Stolarz and turn that 2nd to a 3rd. If they want a ready now goalie.

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04 Jun 2026 22:52:48
Not nearly enough from Detroit. Another top prospect and Cossa. Leafs can then trade Stolarz.

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05 Jun 2026 00:23:07
Barzal for Larkin

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05 Jun 2026 02:31:04
Love the deal for the Leafs but I imagine any deal for Larkin will require a center coming back in the return package.
Looking at Detroit's lineup, they do not currently have a suitable 2C so trading their 1C without a center coming back in return would be a no deal.

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05 Jun 2026 08:44:53
Larkin is the type of player Toronto needs. I just don’t see a fit trade wise unless it’s something like Nylander for Larkin straight up but Detroit will want a centre back.

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04 Jun 2026 15:30:55
I know this would be controversial for some, but I think the Leafs should look at Michael McLeod. I'm sure he will face backlash from some fans, acquitted or not. I liked him when he was in Jersey and wanted him as a Leaf.

When you look at how well Hart is playing, I wonder if McLeod could now translate his game better as well. Almost a point per game last year in the KHL. He would probably take a lot of verbal abuse from some fans though as I hear Hart is.

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04 Jun 2026 14:53:20
I've been for it. He's a good young player. Incredible on the faceoff circle. I'm fully down to turn heel and just do what's best to win a cup over being politically correct. We can get him on a sweetheart deal because of the bulls***.

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04 Jun 2026 15:06:29
The majority of what negative tings Hart hears are not in his home rink. McLeod would hear it way worse here, and if he had a bad game, it a stretch of them it would be a monstrous distraction to the team.

He is better suited if he comes back to the NHL to find a city that doesn’t have the crazy coverage the Canadian teams all have. He can just leave to rink in Russia and many NHL cities where no-one has a clue who he is.

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04 Jun 2026 20:01:09
Hart was booed when he stepped on the ice and then the no means no chant started later. That was in Carolina. Not really a hockey hotbed or a state that really cares about what happens in Canada. Those guys are going to hear it at times no matter where they play in the NHL, likely worse in Toronto.

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04 Jun 2026 21:19:13
Just cuz it's an unpopular decision, doesn't mean it's a bad one. The Leafs really need to stop being pushovers to the fans and players. It's time to do whatever it takes.

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04 Jun 2026 21:29:54
@RLF. That was a pre planned strategy by the Carolina fans in a playoff game.

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05 Jun 2026 00:05:30
I get that. They obviously knew about his situation or they wouldn't have a plan for it. Ie, as I said, even in Carolina, they know.

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05 Jun 2026 00:22:09
It only takes one to know. It was planned on Reddit. The vast majority until the social media went all over it had no clue prior. He had been playing since Dec. in the league and barely faced anything. But McLeod here would be hammered even by his own fans.

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05 Jun 2026 00:40:51
Unfortunately Leafs fans would go ape over McCloud being on this team even with all the evidence showing him being innocent. Id love him on this team he was a great player who unfortunately had his career ruined.

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05 Jun 2026 01:04:45
Give him a PTO. I don’t see why not.

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05 Jun 2026 01:42:16
He's top 10 in the NHL. He's been solid, and has a transfer clause in his contract.

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05 Jun 2026 01:49:35
Top 10 in the NHL??????

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05 Jun 2026 01:59:14
@Mattyboy Seriously. To use the word "Great" in describing McLeod as a player? This is a guy who was scoring at a rate of 24 points a season. I would say he was a ok player not "Great".

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05 Jun 2026 02:41:39
And if it only takes one to know and they can plan it all through Reddit apparently, (which I guess that means all those people in the stadium are Reddit readers) I think that proves my point, not dismisses it. Kind of like the rumour that McTavish was slower because he bulked up started on Reddit, didn't it, Suffering? Probably being slower start of the season had nothing to do with the contract dispute and him missing most of training camp.

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05 Jun 2026 03:03:18
It started on Reddit then spread to other social forums in the area. All I am saying is McLeod in this market would be a total distraction to this team. And what is the McTavish was slower because he bulked up thing about?

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05 Jun 2026 12:09:09
Well, you were the one who mentioned that on here about Mactavish, which has been attributed to a Reddit contributor.

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05 Jun 2026 12:46:09
First off, I am not on Reddit. Do I read links to it, of course. But I am not a member. Secondly, when did I say that about McTavish? I did say it about Knies, adding the extra weight that may have contributed to the knee issues.

If you can send me the post I wrote that about McTavish, with the date I wrote that, I will own up to it.

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05 Jun 2026 12:47:30
@suffering KHL, phone auto corrected on me.

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05 Jun 2026 12:57:05
@suffering Another note about his usage. He was stuck behind Nico Heirsher and Jack Hughes playing 12-15m a night his entire career. Still put up 19 points in 45 games starting 68% of the game defensively. Playing over 1m/g PK and a grand total of 6 minutes over 45 games PP time.



Now he's put up top 20 #s in the KHL. Yes I know I said top 10, but I looked much closer at his numbers. All he needs it to get out of the shadows and he will make name of himself.

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05 Jun 2026 14:04:33
Suffering, it was probably 2-4 weeks ago on a trade discussion. I remember you wrote it and I had never heard that about him, so I tried to find where a coach etc had said that. The rumour apparently started on Reddit. You can believe me or not.

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05 Jun 2026 14:19:39
Find it please so I can see it and I said if I wrote that I will own up.

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05 Jun 2026 15:06:42
I have no idea how to search back that far or even if you can. Like I said, if you don't believe me, that's fine.

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04 Jun 2026 15:12:20
Dallas: Hintz, Lundkvist, Lyubushkin, DeSmith

Toronto: Nylander, Robertson, Maccelli, Stolarz

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04 Jun 2026 14:54:06
Oh God, no. Nylander is better than Hintz by a lot.

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04 Jun 2026 15:02:22
Yeah you’re right. Was just for looking for some alternatives to the usual names mentioned this off season.

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04 Jun 2026 16:25:19
Wouldn’t give Nylander alone for that.

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04 Jun 2026 16:45:07
That’s an interesting one. When comparing the 2 players and the value to the team. You have to remember you are comparing a scoring winger who is horrible defensively at $11.5 to a very, very good 2 way centre who when healthy puts up 30 goal 70 point seasons.

At $8.45. So when you combine his points along with his defensive ability along with $3 million difference in salary it’s not that big of a difference. Plus centres are harder to find than wingers.

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04 Jun 2026 16:45:49
Lol. I’d take Hintz over Nylander simply because he’s a centre and he’s got a better attitude. I like Willy, but I think some of the off ice stuff makes him come across as an unserious player. Also Lundvist is a underrated player.

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05 Jun 2026 00:42:38
Nylander is 10 steps above Hintz.

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05 Jun 2026 01:53:13
Explain your 10 steps above? I have never heard of that as a ranking of players.

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04 Jun 2026 13:26:32
Morgan Rielly
Dakota Mermis
For
Barclay Goodrow
2nd Round Draft Pick

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04 Jun 2026 02:56:31
Devils
Knies
Rielly
Quillan


Leafs
Nemec
Hamilton
Mercer

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04 Jun 2026 12:29:37
I’m definitely not a fan of moving on from Knies.
At least not for that return and not now.

I was critical of him last year but understood he wasn’t fully healthy so I’m anxious to see him in the fall.

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05 Jun 2026 02:36:07
I think that’s fairly close talent wise.
Leafs would have very little left at LW though.

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03 Jun 2026 18:36:53
2nd round 2026
To Kraken

Shane Wright
To Toronto


Don't believe a steam starving for offense will trade their 1 great C in Beniers.

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03 Jun 2026 20:30:39
He's probably only worth that currently but he has much more potential, so there's no way they trade him for a second. It would have to be plus a roster player who's currently better and a prospect. I think that would get it done.

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03 Jun 2026 21:57:25
You are in dream land if you think a Maple Leafs 2nd rd pick lands you Wright.

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03 Jun 2026 23:04:47
He’s not someone I was interested in, but a second and Colorado’s 1st, which is arguably two seconds, would be as far as I’d go.

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05 Jun 2026 00:44:29
To land Wright you need to give up atleast a 1st and a good prsopect, Seattle has no reason to give him up and he's still young and has shown potential.

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03 Jun 2026 09:50:59
Two names I’d consider if I’m the Leafs are
Kesselring and Lohri, both big d men who can move the puck, that would be cheap cost.

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03 Jun 2026 13:01:04
I agree on both trade targets but who or what would you give up to acquire them?

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03 Jun 2026 21:05:10
Not sure if Lohrei would be available, but Kesselring I think could be had.
With Montreal having so many D, I wonder if the Leafs could land either Pickford or Engstrom. There doesn't seem to be any room for them. Not with Reinbacher there waiting as well. Same goes for Beck and Roy upfront.

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03 Jun 2026 23:38:38
Yes, I think he could be had, as well.

The Sabres have a big salary challenge with Tuch, Benson, Krebs and Malenstyn needing new contracts, plus they have some very solid D prospects to backfill.



Kesselring was a 6th round pick in 2018 so can we steal him?

The Sabres probably don’t need a current player because it adds salary, so would they take a R5 in 2027?

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04 Jun 2026 00:28:57
Kesselring would could offer sheet. He was earning $1.4. If we offer $3.5 @ 3 years with bonuses, would Buffalo match? It would cost us a 2nd round pick in 2027.

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04 Jun 2026 14:41:34
I would not offer sheet Kesselring if costing a 2nd. The guy is a 3rd pair D his whole career. I would want give a 3rd pair D $3.5M and also lose a 2nd to make it happen.

He was healthy scratched for most of the playoffs and at times during the season. Yes, he had injury issues, but still not worth that kind of money and compensation imo.

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04 Jun 2026 15:22:42
When Healthy he would he would be worth it. He might take take $2.75 but would still cost a 3rd.

He was a top 4 in Arizona and a top 4 in Utah before the trade.

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04 Jun 2026 17:40:41
Kesselring would cost a 3rd, and from what I’ve read Lohrei is available. What he cost is the question. The last trade with the Bruins didn’t go so well. I guess my thinking is instead of overpaying in free agency, look at the trade market.

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04 Jun 2026 19:46:46
Suffering. When was Kesselring a top 4 in Arizona/Utah? Even his best year, he only averaged just over 17 mins a night with 4-5 D always ahead of him in avg toi. Plus, he was barely used on PP or PK. Typically a top 4 plays a lot more than that and at least one of the special teams.

He filled some top 4 mins when Durzi and Marino were both hurt. The last year in Arizona, he was getting under 16 mins a night and lots of D got way more icetime. Are you mixing him up with someone else?

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04 Jun 2026 21:34:17
My uncle was a season ticket holder in Arizona and flew to a minimum of 25 games in Utah the following year. I would believe the guy who watched the games over a guy looking at internet stats.

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05 Jun 2026 00:36:44
So, since your uncle says he's top 4, he's a top 4 even if his deployment by coaching says otherwise? I did acknowledge he got top 4 minutes for a period due to injury to 2 actual top 4 dmen. That doesn't mean he was in their top 4. He also got exposed when they gave him 20+ mins. So who wasn't in their top 4 in Arizona because Kesselring actually was? Was it Moser, Dursi, Dumba or Valimaki? What about in Utah? Was it Sergachev, Dursi, Marino, Cole, Maata? Just to be clear, according to you, Utah trades one top 4 in Moser, then trades another in Kesselring the next summer.


Also, kind of funny coming from you, the shot about a guy reading stats on the internet.

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05 Jun 2026 02:11:28
Whatever dude. I trust my source.

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05 Jun 2026 02:32:05
Lol. You didn't say which of those D he was in the top 4 instead of.

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05 Jun 2026 06:40:21
He said that when Dermott got hurt that was when Kesselring came up and they had him with Durzi then moved him up to play with Valimakii halfway through the year when Dumba was bumped to the 3rd pairing, then he stayed there the rest of the year after Dumba got traded and Dermott got hurt again.

Then in Utah he was partnered with Cole for the the year as the second pairing and Valimakii was moved down to the 3rd pairing. Satisfied? As I said I stand by my source. I don't appreciate when people question my relatives knowledge of what they personally have seen.

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05 Jun 2026 14:54:11
I'm not trying to insult your uncle for cryin out loud. But the facts say something different. Sorry, but they do. Yes, he was paired with Cole, as the 3rd pair. Sergachev/Durzi, Maata/Marino. Are you saying Cole/Kesselring was ahead of those two pairings? As I said, he got top 4 minutes while Durzi and Marino were hurt. He filled in well. When they came back in February, he was demoted back to the 3rd pair with Cole. He even talked about his role being greatly reduced and Cole helping him through it mentally. His minutes became more sheltered. No PP time, No PK time. In 23/24, he didn't even get into his first game until mid November playing limited minutes and usage until injuries hit and he got a bigger role for the last 20 games.

In Buffalo this year, he really struggled. Just because Stetcher played a top 4 role out of necessity when he came to Toronto, I wouldn't call him a top 4 D. Like Stetcher, Kesselring can handle a bigger role, but doesn't mean he is the best option for the top 4. Both got exposed at times in those roles. Buffalo hoped for more from him, but ultimately due to his injuries and inconsistency this year, he didn't see much ice even when healthy. You don't believe me, so be it.

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03 Jun 2026 01:03:42
Reworking my viable post from earlier
Leafs
Beniers
Grubauer

Kraken
Rielly
1st 2027 Avs pick
Robertson
Johansson
Stolarz

The idea is to get Morgan moved to the west coast
Close to home
The salary is a bonus wash with Beniers
The Kraken is looking for some scoring so Robertson helps out with that
The 1st rd pick and highly thought of prospect Swede dman maybe tips the scales and the trigger is pulled
Or ….the toilet is flushed
The goalie swap gives the kraken a solid 1a to daccord
And a goalie under contract for a few years
Leafs get a 5.9 million $ goalie but only for one year

This will roughly even out the cap hits

Now there were rumblings that the kraken wanted to
Move off of matty B last year?
Maybe I heard that from that seravalli
Either way
Matty B could be the 2nd line Center with McKenna and Cowan on his wings
Tavares goes to third line center

With my luck the Avs crash next year and it becomes a top 5 pick 😂😂
But then I remain optimistic and Beniers becomes a 90 point Center👍and McKenna wins the Calder

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05 Jun 2026 00:47:07
This doesn't even touch half of Beniers

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03 Jun 2026 04:32:10
Ok here is another Knies trade... and like everyone else I hate to even propose trading this guy, but he has a no trade protection and has alot of value. I'd rather throw Nylander in this deal, but he would never waive to go to Chicago. So here we are to try to reset our defense.

To Chicago: Knies and Stolarz

To Toronto: 4th overall pick 2026
2md round pick 2026 - 37th overall (originally Toronto's pick)
Artyom Levshunov

They get their target power forward and a better goalie upgrade. Leafs draft the best D available at #4 and get another young RHD drafted 2nd overall a couple years ago and ready to make the jump to the Leafs. Sets up our defense for the next decade along with Danford.



We then draft McKenna at #1 to take that top line LW spot from Knies.

Then try to sign a young center like Mason McTavish with whatever assets we can. Maybe Anaheim does something like this:
To Anaheim: Robertson, Carlo, 2027 2nd
To Toronto: McTavish

Flip Reilly to the Sharks for the best trade package you can.

UFA signing: Marchment, Raddysh, and go hard after Tuch with the available cap space.

McKenna Matthews Tuch
Cowan Tavares Nylander
Marchment McTavish Macielli
Lorentz Groulx (Marlies insert)

Raddysh Levshunov
McCabe Tanev
OEL Benoit
4th overall

Woll
Hildeby.

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03 Jun 2026 10:13:28
Yo GM Rick. Thought a similar trade, but we got our top RHD in the trade Levshunov signed Raddysh, so with the 4 OVA maybe we hope Malholtra is available still? First line C of the future no? Rest is on point! I just think winger centre Dman slam dunk of a 26’ draft. Other then the massive lose of Knies.

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02 Jun 2026 22:30:16
Here is one for all you anti-Knies fans,

To NYR: 1st overall pick, Easton Cowan, Hildeby, Carlo

To Toronto: 4th overall pick, Cuyelle, Greentree, Schneider RFA rights - Leafs draft a D. (Carson Carels for eg.)

Trade 2:
To SJ: Reilly, Robertson (signed 2x2.2M), Benoit, 2026 2nd rd pick

To Toronto: Ferraro (signed 4 x 6M), 3rd rd pick 2028

Free Agents: McMann (4x 5.5M), AJ Greer (4x2.75M)
Laughton (3 x 4M)
Jenner (3x3M)
Stanley (4x4.5M)


Knies Matthews McMann
Cuyelle JT Nylander
Joshua Laughton Greer
Greentree Jenner Domi
Lorentz Koblar

McCabe Tanev
OEL Carels
Ferraro Schneider
Danford.

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02 Jun 2026 22:37:47
Forgot to add Stanley to the D. Send Danford to the A for a year. All 7 D will be used with the amount of work injuries we had to our back end last year.

I didn’t add up the total but hopefully it’s under the cap. Also have to sign Schneider as we just got his RFA rights. Maybe somewhere in the ballpark of 2 X 4M?

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03 Jun 2026 02:28:38
Clarky, can’t say I hate that. Made me think that’s some nice pieces coming back to build on. Love the Carals and Greentree adds with Schneider and Cuyelle to. Idk, I really like the more I’m typing this out. Nice prop man.

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03 Jun 2026 04:28:44
Ferraro is a free agent. You can just sign him without giving up any assets.

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