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26 May 2024 04:55:58
Leaf's trade Jarnknok Kampf

New Jersey 3 rd round pick 2024

Keefe loves these two players and Leafs just can fill these roles much cheaper

This saves $4.5 million

Cowan is great on penetration kill and Holmberg replaces Kampf

Just getting rid of these two guys gives Toronto the money to resign Domi

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26 May 2024 06:51:49
Leafs lineup next season

I think leafs
have the cap space by trading Kampf and Jarnknok they will have $23.5 million

Domi $4 million x 5
Stamkos $6 milliom 5 years
Robertson $2 million 3 years
Liljegren $2 million 2 years
Pesce $6 million 6 years



Domi Matthews Marner
Knies Tavaras Nylander
Robertson Stamkos Cowan
McMann Holmberg Minten

Reilly Pesce
McCabe Liljegren
Benoit Niemela

Woll
Hildeby

This team is pretty good to start season. Plus one has to assume Knies McMann Robertson Holmberg Liljegren and Woll will all be better next year

Cowan will be candidate for Rookie of the year and both Cowan and Minten will help out on special teams penelty kill.

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26 May 2024 06:56:59
No room for Bertuzzi so he moves on

If you wanted to move Nylander to third line center
Resign Bertuzzi

Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
Knies Tavares Marner
Robertson Nylander Cowan
McMann Holmberg Minten

There is no way I trade Marner after next season Tavares is either gone or resigned at 50% discount.

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26 May 2024 11:45:07
Penetration Kill. 😂.

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26 May 2024 04:18:40
Tor- Marner, Minten, 23rd overall
Chi- Jones, 2nd overall

Chicago moves down in the draft but gets a dynamic winger to pair with bedard and another top prospect to compensate for the move down in the draft

Toronto gets the right shot dman they need and can draft a top level prospect like Levshunov (right shot mobile dman), Silayev (6 foot 7 shutdown dman) or Demidov (highly skilled winger)

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25 May 2024 16:25:53
a multi team propsal for a goalie and a 3C with space and picks comign back


tor: marner, liligren, robertson, kampf, jarnkrok

ana: gibson, zegras, 1st (edm)

Ut: bjugstad, 2024 1st (#6)

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tor: 2024 1st (edm), 2024 1st (#6), gibson (@5m), bjugstad (2.1m)

ana: marner, liljigren, kampf

Ut: zegras, robertson, jarnkrok


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this fills a need for every team, the leafs now clear up 4m in cap space, get a solid 3C who could also move up to RW if there's injuries, in jarkrok's spot you now have steeves coming up from the minors, and have $25m to spend on 2x RHD, 1xtop6 RW, domi, and some other peices aswell as tradable pcks to trade down and restock the cupboards.

anaheim does this to upgrade thair top 6, and RHD that fits their age range, and gets a servieable 4C

UT gets a a young corner stone offensively talented C/ LW for their core, and great middle 6 LW in robetson, and jack of all trades jarnkrok.

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25 May 2024 18:50:25
Oooh and cap retention of 1.4m to Utah, forgot to put that part in.

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26 May 2024 02:09:25
I actually like this for the most part.

I believe Utah is being quite short changed, but overall good idea.

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26 May 2024 03:17:57
Leafs give up Marner, Liljegren, Robertson, Kampf and Jarnkrok and all they get in return is Gibson (a good but not elite goaltender) a 1st round pick that will be 29th to 32nd and Bujgstad a 3rd line center.
This part of the trade is totally Underwhelming!
So then we look at the #6 overall pick.
If Leafs take one of the 4 or 5 projected top defenseman it will be 2 - 3 years before that player is on the roster making an impact.
By then Matthews and Nylander will be 30 and 31 respectively and Leafs window to contend gets 2 - 3 years smaller.
If Leafs take Iginla it will be at least another year before he is suiting up for the Blue and White.
Leafs already have Knies and McMann on left wing and are looking to bring back Bertuzzi.
If they do bring back Bertuzzi there would not be a lot of ice time left for Iginla.
If Helenius, a center, is still available he might be ready to play for the Leafs when Tavares’s contract expires but it is a lot to ask a 19 year old kid to step into the 2nd line center position on a Stanley Cup contender.
Similarly with Cayden Lindstrom.

A very interesting though risk filled proposal.
Will Gibson and Bujgstad make up for the loss of Marner this year?
Would Leafs even be as good in 2024 - 2025 as they were this year.
With Gibson becoming 31 on July 14th and Bujgstad already 31 and turning 32 on July 17th this deal is really more about the future than helping the
Leafs now, yet Leafs are definitely in a win now mode not 2 - 3 years from now.

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26 May 2024 05:01:02
@WB why would the #6 pick take 3 years to develop? That's high enough you can expect a return within a year or two.

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25 May 2024 11:08:37
Sabres Marner Rielly Robertson
Leafs Power Quinn

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26 May 2024 03:24:25
Including Reilly makes the deal very one sided in Buffalo’s favor.

Power is good but Leafs are still left needing a top pairing RHD.
Quinn has a lot of potential but his injury history should make any GM cautious.

Not a trade I would make as it does not fill any of Leafs greatest needs; a top pairing, RHD, an upgrade in net, or a young, 3rd line center with the potential to move up to 2nd line center when Tavares’s contract expires a year from now.

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26 May 2024 05:01:51
@WB I am the resident Mo fan. More than anybody I will generally defend Mo. That said, this is still a deal you take as Tre.

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25 May 2024 05:07:35
Tor
Marner Lily Robertson

Sea
Larson Bjorkstrand 2nd 2025

Tor
Reilly Jarnkrok Kampf

NJ
Siegenthaler Bastain 3rd 2025

Sign
Bertuzzi 5x5.0
DeBrusk 5x5.0
Peace 5x6.0
Domi 3x3.5
Arvidsson 3x3.0
Lyubuskin 3x2.0
Brossoit 3x3.0

Bertuzzi Matthews Nylander
DeBrusk Domi Bjorkstrand
Knies Tavares Arvidsson
McMann Holmberg Bastain


Siegenthaler Larsson
McCabe Pesce
Benoit Lyubuskin
Webber

Brossoit
Woll

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26 May 2024 01:44:38
Why are all this so called traded . the leafs get not one 1st rounder
We loose the best player and we also get a 2nd rd pick. come on.

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26 May 2024 03:27:37
I would think that Marner and Robertson alone should be enough to get this deal done without adding Liljegren which in my view makes this proposal too heavily weighted in the Seattle Kraken’s favor.

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26 May 2024 05:02:16
@WB I forgot Lilly is Bobby Orr.

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25 May 2024 04:06:22
Canes. Marner Rielly Liljegren Timmins Jarnkrok Robertson

Leafs Necas Nadeau Jarvis. 1st 2025 2nd 2024

Kampf to --- for 3rd 2025


Sign
Pesce
Montour
Carrier
Duclair
Domi
Debrusk
Edmundson
Brossoit

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26 May 2024 03:33:52
Can’t see Carolina trading two of their top right handed players.
As Leafs GM I would be happy to make this deal but I don’t see the Hurricanes doing it.
Also I’m quite sure that the Canes do not have the cap space to take on Marner’s $10.9 plus Reilly’s $7.5 plus Jarnkrok’s $2.1 as well as resigning Liljegren at $3+ million, Timmins at $1.1.
Let’s not forget Robertson.
This would mean absorbing $25+ million onto their cap.

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25 May 2024 03:18:54
Tor
Marner/Lily


Det
Seider

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24 May 2024 23:41:36
To Utah
Robertson RFA
Liljegren RFA

To Toronto
Bjugstad $2.1M/ 1yr
Kesselring RFA

Thoughts?

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25 May 2024 04:49:32
I advocated for Dubas to acquire Bujgstad to be Leafs 3rd line center at the past two trade deadline.

Kesselring is a 24 year old, 6’4”, 190lb, right hand defenseman

Liljegren is a 25 year old 6’1”, 198lb, right hand defenseman.

I do not know enough about Kesselring to judge whether this is just a sideways move for both teams or not.
If Kesselring is judged to be better than Liljegren, why would Utah trade him for a lesser RHD.
If Kesselring is not as good as Liljegren, why would the Leafs want to trade for him?

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25 May 2024 12:12:13
WB
These judgements are done by those involved in the trade! Not by an evaluation panel.

If the Leafs see something in Kesselring’s play that they need or like from a team standpoint they might make the trade.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, I guess.

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25 May 2024 14:41:58
WB
Bottom line, Leafs get bigger and more physical, which are characteristics that Tre & Berube like.
Bjugstad fills a 3C need for Leafs, or possibly 3RW depending on other moves.
Kesselring fills a 3rd line RD with size and physicality (with possible upside to move up to 2RD in future)
Utah gets a young goal scoring
forward in Robertson, who better fits their timelim
Also they grab a former 1st round Dman who may play better in a less demanding market.
IMO I think it's a trade that could work for both sides.

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26 May 2024 03:42:26
As I said, I have wanted Bujgstad since two trade deadlines ago.
Another Dubas mistake in my opinion.

But I would always question a sideways move such as a 24 year old RHD for a 25 year old RHD.
It would require both teams feeling they got the better player?

“Not by an evaluation panel”?
I heartily disagree.
This is not one person, the GM reviewing and deciding on a deal.
It is Treliving, his assistant GM Pridham maybe Shanahan as well as the Leafs scouting staff.
That’s what I would call a”a panel”.

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24 May 2024 22:18:11
Tor: jarnkrok
Njd: bastian

One for one saw that New Jersey might be looking to try and trade for keefe favourite player bastian fits more of what the new leafs are looking for big power forward and there's cap savings for the leafs

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25 May 2024 03:16:12
Tor
Reilly/ Jarnkrok/ Robertson

NJ
Siegenthaler/ Bastian/ 2nd Rd Pk.

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24 May 2024 22:12:51
Sabres get Marner Liljegren
Leafs get Krebs Quinn Byram

Kampf to hawks for a third 2025
Jarnkrok to preds for a third 2025

Sign
Pesce
Carrier
Brossoit
Stenlund



2024-25 Leafs

Woll Brossoit

Rielly mcCabe Benoit Byram Pesce Carrier

Knies Matthews Quinn
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson Krebs Cowan
Stenlund Holmberg Reaves

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25 May 2024 04:56:35
Interesting!
It keeps Marner close to home.

I am not a big fan of Krebs as he has done nothing but struggle since turning pro and has done little to indicate there is much more than what we have seen.

Quinn is a goal scorer, when he is available.
Unfortunately, somewhat similar to Robertson Quinn has struggled with serious injuries.
Byram already looks like a top 4 defenseman but has been stricken with a number of concussion related head injuries.

I personally prefer to avoid drafting, trading for or signing players with a history of serious injury as this condition tends not to go away!

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24 May 2024 22:02:44
Something different

To Carolina
Hildeby ELC

To Toronto
Nikishin (no contract)

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