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21 Jul 2026 19:05:27
So let's talk Shane Wright.
What would everyone be willing to part with? Would you consider a Cowan for Wright straight up? Or would you consider something larger with better long term outlook. I know everyone refuses to consider trading Knies, but we would likely get a good return for now and later ina.
ove like Knies for Wright and O'Brien.
McKenna O'Brien Wright would make a good line.
So what are you willing to give up to land Wright.
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21 Jul 2026 19:21:02
Not much. Especially with their asking price. Seems like Cowan wouldn't fo it alonr and I believe Wright to be overhyped solely because he was granted exceptional status. Since then, his game has gone no where, his skating is below average, his IQ is struggling to keep up with plays, he isn't physical, etc.
I believe Wright to be a solid reclamation project that can be a 3C on a good team that steps in as a 2C when injuries occur.
Maybe a 2nd rounder is about where I put his value, but they'd never accept that.
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21 Jul 2026 20:09:16
I think I agree with Buium being the ask out of Vancouver. I imagine they think Knies.
21 Jul 2026 16:43:19
I know we all head into the new season being optimistic and hoping that last year was an anomaly. So if it wasn't and we find this is not going to work at all. What is the route we take if we are to blow it up and go to full rebuild mode? Personally I am after the last 2 years of drafting starting to see some good pieces in the system but without 2 years of our 1st round picks gone. It would really stymie the timeframe of a rebuild unless some of the blowup of the team involves somehow trading with the Dreaded Bruins and the Flyers to get those picks back.
Don't get me wrong I think McKenna will be a good one, but it sure would have been nice if Landon Dupont had been available in this years draft.
That is the kind of player we are lacking that would completely transform this team. Ahead and behind the blueline. Obviously whoever gets the 1st overall pick (Early odds are on the Canucks) would be open to a trade for the right player that would not be afraid of joining another rebuild team for that pick. If Buiim has a really good year in Vancouver they would be willing to pass on Dupont for the right player and a pick.
Lets hope we do turn a corner this year and it doesn't transpire. But hey.... we are a trade rumour/debate site. If you had to and it was Vancouver or Calgary who would you move to get Dupont from either team?
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21 Jul 2026 16:31:49
Love the idea, just don’t see anyone trading the (potential) 1st overall pick.
Leafs can definitely speed up the rebuild by shipping Knies, Matthews and Nylander tho.
Again, I’d circle back to Montreal 1st and demand there top 3 prospects and 2x 1st rounders and they would definitely be listening. Imagine Anderson and Knies coming at you every other shift in the playoffs 🤯.
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21 Jul 2026 17:17:09
So... rebuild by shipping out Knies and going after Anderson? Funny looking rebuild.
Suffering, rebuild is inevitable. They are not going far this year. Matthews is leaving, Nylander is heart/gutless. Reilly will have to go next year after Leaf fans have him traded the last 3 seasons. Seems really silly, IMO, that they went for it this year and went after 37 yo Bob amongst others.
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21 Jul 2026 17:30:29
@Clarky17
Ur miss understanding my post (my bad).
I would ship Knies to Montreal for there top 3x prospect and 2x 1st rounders.
That would but 2x power forwards (Anderson and Knies) on Montreal.
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21 Jul 2026 17:32:24
@Clarky If this doesn't work out and Bob isn't what Chayka thought he was, there is zero risk. By the time a full rebuild is done the only one still on the books would be Raddysh and that's only if he wasn't sent somewhere as well.
Went for it is what I would say if they moved picks for players. Chayka signed a bunch of short term deals because management knows a rebuild may be in the future.
@Suffering I don't think anything the Leafs currently have equals Dupont. If Calgary landed 1OA they don't really need young D, but unless McKenna has a good year and he's part of the package why would they do it?
Vancouver is years away currently, even emptying out the Marlies+Knies I don't see getting it done.
Good thought, but no matter how hard I try I cannot figure it out.
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21 Jul 2026 17:37:10
You don’t rebuild trading a 23 year old power forward like Knies. You’ll be looking dor someone just like him almost immediately.
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21 Jul 2026 17:45:22
@Clarky17
I also agree w you about the rebuild. All the Leafs are do’n right now is filling the lineup w bandaid solutions.
The Leafs have done nothing for tomorrow….. Nothing!!!!
We have minimal prospects and minimal draft capital.
And!!!! And!!!!! All this to keep Matthews happy who can still walk in 2x years, then what 🤷♂️
I want and need the Leafs to think more than the next 2x years.
All is see is the Leafs putting off the inevitable and wasting 2x more years.
“yes”, I believe the Leafs will complete this year but they’re far from competing for the Cup.
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21 Jul 2026 17:48:01
Don’t hate me Clarky but to land something like DuPont you would have to do Knies and another piece. Yes Knies is a power forward but we have no-one like a Makar or Schaefer of Werenski or Hutson or Sanderson to only touch on a few.
This team truly needs that elite quarterback. Would we miss Knies? Of course, but we can’t keep hoping that elite d-man falls from heaven.
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21 Jul 2026 18:18:15
@Suffering
With the minimal prospects and draft capital the Leafs have I don’t see a trade possible to land the 1st overall pick even if they include Knies.
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21 Jul 2026 18:41:04
@Kingmatty It would come down to how the season pans out and if someone came knocking with a massive package of prospects and picks for Matthews and Nylander at the deadline, to what package could be put together for a DuPont or a Trade ti Minnesota with Matthew’s and Faber being the key pieces.
Then instead of DuPont we look at Assembling a package to get the big Centre Alexis Joseph. I might be proven wrong and believe me I would not be upset if this lineup can do it. On paper, though, I just don’t see a contender.
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21 Jul 2026 18:48:03
Ya! We’ll know more at the halfway point. I’m not expecting the Leafs to come out hot especially w a new coach and all the new faces.
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21 Jul 2026 20:28:02
I just don't see anyone giving up the first overall pick and passing on DuPont. Whether Buium has a good year or not, he’s a LD and DuPont is RD. Why wouldn’t u want them both. Then u trade Hronek instead if u win the draft.
21 Jul 2026 00:00:50
Morgan to Utah
Crouse to Toronto
Sign Logan Stanley Cup 3 yrs 4.5 per
Domi on LTIR
Joshua to Hawks for a 5th in 2027
Let’s Goooooooooooo
Chayka.
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20 Jul 2026 23:16:27
Not sure. Is this a serious proposal or a satirical one?
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20 Jul 2026 23:18:22
Would also need to trade Lorentz to make room for Crouse!
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20 Jul 2026 23:41:26
So serious
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20 Jul 2026 23:50:46
Marner.. you stink in the playoffs and now you also can’t add…
Leafs over currently 2.8.
Crouse adds 4.3.
Stanley Cup adds 4.5.
That’s 11.6.
Morgan out 7.5.
Equal 4.1 over.
Domi LTIR 3.7.
Joshua bye bye 3.25.
Now we are under.
Sooooo
Why am I trading Lorentz??
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21 Jul 2026 03:07:21
I just don’t see how, when we are having a tough time getting a decent prospect or a good draft pick for Reilly, that we could pick Utah's pocket for a power forward that has scored 20 or more in his last 4 years.
Re: Stanley. The whole league is running scared from the way he was exposed in the playoffs.
Initial estimates before the playoffs were 5 years at $5m; now some are saying because of his one-off 9-goal year, but then crashing in the playoffs, he may get a 1-year show-me contract in the $2.5 to $3 range the longer this draws out. Especially with Ferraro, who is a much better d-man, signing for only $4m.
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21 Jul 2026 10:39:51
Preposterous. 😂
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21 Jul 2026 13:58:32
Ferraro is gone suffering
Get over it.
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21 Jul 2026 14:09:12
I am over it. Just pointing out that the price point and demand for Stanley is not what people thought it would be.
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21 Jul 2026 15:02:10
I meant Cruise has scored 20 or more in 4 of the last 5 years. I just don’t see why Utah would consider trading their best playoff player last year for Reilly. Curious why you think they might, Luke?
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21 Jul 2026 17:32:03
It would take more than Reilly to get Crouse. At least a prospect and a pick. Like all the other moves to clear up cap space. I believe Lorentz will be put on waivers if they don’t find a trade for him, so no need to move him it’s not a priority. Something is very suspicious that Stanley hasn’t been signed yet.
Either his price tag is too high, and teams not willing to give him his asking price and term. So it’s not a priority to give him $4.5mx3 when no one else is giving it to him. You can snag him for Les term and less money.
Makes things look a little different. Leafs get 500k in cap space but get 1 more year in term.
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20 Jul 2026 21:11:04
They wouldn’t want one more year of term. Hard pass. Solves nothing.
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20 Jul 2026 21:18:47
What does this accomplish?
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20 Jul 2026 21:33:53
Me personally, I want the cap space. So essentially trading Rielly for a pic or prospect.
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20 Jul 2026 22:11:21
This is getting frustrating, the Leafs don’t want to trade Reilly as a cap dump but his value isn’t there to do more and with Stanley still out there I don’t understand why they don’t trade him for anything or haven’t. So I assuming he’s not going anywhere at this point.
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20 Jul 2026 22:34:29
We are that point that teams we thought had cap are now looking to stay put in case they need to hang on to that cap and hope they are in playoff position and need that cap at trade deadline. Not to mention keep cap for next year depending on their RFA and UFA positions for next year year. It is tighter than people thought in regards to that cap position. As soon as Fantilli and Robertsons final team and to a lesser level Patrick Kane (But not that much less.... Ifd Roslovic is worth $4 what is Patrick Kane worth?) that will gobble up more of 3 teams and make 3 teams more tighter on the cap. I heard a interesting theory the other day.
That this could be the year of the phantom LTIR. Injuries that just seem to drag out long enough to free up cap for the right time of the season. Some might call them Phantom soccer injuries lol. Look way worse than they are. lol.
We may have to Keep Reilly until someone else's team has a major injury and needs a Left handed D man and then we do the move. In the meantime we will have to utilize Domi's LTIR and possibly put a player or two on waivers and see if they get claimed or we at least get to utilize the minimum cap relief of them in the minors.
No matter which way you slice it, it is not going to be a easy fix.
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20 Jul 2026 22:39:34
@LeafGM78
I’m w you buddy 👊
Let’s go Chayka!!!!!
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20 Jul 2026 22:43:38
Totally agree, and if the worse case scenario is we keep him, I think if he’s not on the first pairing, which he should never have been, I’d be hard pressed to believe there’s a better option. He is a good player, no doubt about that.
I hope he get utilized properly and doesn’t look as bad as last year. Bottom line, we were all excited about the cap space and possibilities, but if we need him to stay, so be it.
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21 Jul 2026 12:16:23
If I was Rielly, I’d say “I’m stay’n, I’ve been embarrassed enough”.
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21 Jul 2026 17:33:20
Rather keep Reilly unless Nashville willing to retain at least 2-2.5m on Skeji contract. Then I would do it.
19 Jul 2026 13:50:36
Both boys get to play in their hometown. Finally.
Trade idea
Toronto Maple Leafs receive:
Jamie Oleksiak
Vancouver Canucks receive:
Morgan Rielly
Toronto's 2027 second-round draft pick
And Lorentz trade somewhere 3rd round pick.
Joshua and Blueger they have good chemistry so that's why Lorentz have to go.
Why it makes sense for Toronto
This trade would give the Maple Leafs more salary-cap help.
Oleksiak wouldn't necessarily play every game anymore. He and Emil Andrae could rotate on the third defensive pair depending on the opponent.
Against bigger, heavier, and more physical teams, Oleksiak would be in the lineup to add size, strength, and penalty killing ability.
Against faster, more skill-oriented teams where puck movement is more important, Emil Andrae could play instead, while Oleksiak would be a healthy scratch.
Why it makes sense for Vsncouver
Morgan Rielly would return to his hometown area and give the Canucks another puck-moving defenseman who can help drive offense and contribute on the power play.
The additional second-round pick helps balence the difference on value between the two players while giving Vancouver another future asset.
19 Jul 2026 14:12:24
Why it does not make sense. Oleksiak did not sign as a UFA with Vancouver so that he could be traded away. He picked Vancouver because he likes the Pacific Northwest.
“Playing in a Canadian market for a historic franchise like the Canucks, and obviously living in Seattle, I came to really appreciate the Pacific Northwest,” he said. “I’m excited to explore Vancouver and play in front of the fans there and grow with the team as well. I think it just presented a lot of great possibilities, and it was tough to turn down. So I’m excited.”
On the Toronto side of it. If for some far fetched reason that trade could ever happen. Why would you trade for a Defenseman that you are going to platoon for $5 m a year?
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19 Jul 2026 15:50:52
Also Leafs said they aren't adding to dump Rielly's salary, and with Oleksiak for toughness when Logan Stanley is still a UFA.
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19 Jul 2026 21:07:50
Didn't Mo turn down Vancouver?
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19 Jul 2026 23:09:24
This makes no sense whatsoever.
19 Jul 2026 13:42:00
Rumour is, Reilly just expanded his list to include Utah.
To Utah: Reilly (retain 1.5M), Roslovic
To Tor: Hayton, Peeke, Lamoureux, 3rd rd pick 2027.
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19 Jul 2026 14:15:22
That trade would not be allowed to happen Clarky. Once you match a offer sheet (Hayton), he is not allowed to be traded for one full year after he signed back with his original club. So that would be July 8, next year.
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19 Jul 2026 15:55:18
Utah has a few lovely peices I'd be interested in, Lameroux is a massive locker room guy, but a lesser prospect, Thomas Lavoie is another prospect I like on defense. Then we all know about Tij Iginla who would look beautiful on the Leafs, but we're good on LW, tho he has expressed interest in being a Center.
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19 Jul 2026 23:09:52
Preposterous
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20 Jul 2026 09:35:55
Thanks Suffering. I didn’t even know he got offer sheeted. I don’t know the rule either though.
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20 Jul 2026 13:01:49
Yeah it can be hard to keep up on all that stuff.
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20 Jul 2026 13:06:30
Even with Roslovic. We signed him as a UFA with no restrictions to trade or move. But if we were to include him in a trade because of his recent signing we could not do until this August 15.
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20 Jul 2026 18:40:04
Rielly, 1st from Col and Quillan
For Crouse
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20 Jul 2026 20:11:53
Champ….. that’s too much for Crouse. Change the first to a second at least.
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20 Jul 2026 20:35:45
@Suffering
Hayton walks right into UFA status since Utah matched the OS. Utah will not have any rights to trade Hayton.
Hayton completely controls his future next July 1st.
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20 Jul 2026 22:36:18
Yep I know
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20 Jul 2026 22:46:42
Unless they extend him furst of course.
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21 Jul 2026 00:02:45
Possible, but I think Hayton wants out or he wouldn't have signed that lower AAV OS.
He was project to make almost $5.5M.
He now controls his own future, so I would think he is heading to FA next summer.
18 Jul 2026 12:49:06
Just read that Rielly added Nashville to his approved trade list. Don’t see the fit there as they have 3 guys signed to multiple years on the left side in Josi, Skeji, and Hague. Josi does play the right side so that could be the only way this works. Just thinking of a return. Unless we take back an unwanted player I don’t see them trading for Rielly.
To Tor
Stamkos $8m
Perbix $2.75m
To Nash
Rielly $7.5m
Joshua $3.25m
No cap savings
Or
To Tor
Marchessault $5.5m
Perbix $2.75m
To Nash
Rielly $7.5m
Joshua $3.25m
2.5m cap savings
Thoughts on better ways to maneuver it.
I see the reason why he would choose music town. Non-tax state plus Nashville is super cool place. I definitely don’t want to swap Skeji for Rielly.
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18 Jul 2026 12:39:28
Nashville can fit him in (Barely) without moving a roster player. We know as far as Defense prospect they won't give up Cameron Reid but I would take Alex Huang. He had a great season and fantastic playoff run with Chicoutimi. Could be that offensive d-man prospect we have looked for, for a long time.
See how he does at Harvard in a different environment.
We could then give a shot to whoever shines best at camp of Danford, Chadwick or Villeneuve and failing that. We will have some cap opened up from Reilly so we keep our eyes on the waiver wire.
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18 Jul 2026 12:47:21
On a side note. Nashville for all their steps back in the past few years have somehow managed to do what hardly any teams in the NHL have been able to accomplish. If you look at Puckpedia. They literally only have 7 players on that roster with No movement or restricted trade conditions. Not sure how they managed that but good on them.
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18 Jul 2026 14:17:44
Rielly for Marchessault.
Like you said though I don’t see a Rielly fit in Nashville….
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18 Jul 2026 14:35:52
And I certainly don't see them giving Stamkos in a package for him. I mean, Stamkos even on a lousy year is pretty much a 30 goal guy and he and the other old timer O'Reilly gave them a pretty good bang for the dollar last year and only $12.5M between the 2 of them.
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18 Jul 2026 17:20:46
Nobody to take Rielly's spot and more forwards, not sure what the gain is.
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18 Jul 2026 18:09:29
U r getting rid of Joshua in the process. I'm not just proposing a D for a forward, LeafsGM. But I would be good for a Rielly Perbix swap. Gain some needed cap space and Perbix only one season left on contract. McFarland, new GM, has already started transforming the team by adding Drury, Colton and Bourque.
I’m sure he would be happy to unload the older guys. Plus reconfigure D core as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if some kind of proposition has come up for him to add Nashville to the list.
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18 Jul 2026 18:43:34
Turns out the site that first reported the Reilly to Nashville speculation and names like Stamkos and Perbix according to Yahoo was "Heavy.com". So for now, based on the way Heavy has not a great track record. Let's wait until we hear from the reliable guys.
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18 Jul 2026 21:33:22
All the rumour sites are based on stuff they hear from us 😂
So we all know we are all full of baloney…so… there’s that 😏
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18 Jul 2026 22:10:09
When it comes to Rielly’s trade list it’s all based on speculation cause they haven’t come out and specifically said these are the teams everyone is assuming cause it’s Western Conference it’s those teams that have the most needs. So why not Predators. Lol.
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19 Jul 2026 01:34:11
Honestly, don’t even know anymore, I’ve given up on guessing 🤷♂️. The one article we’re all referencing, I don’t see a fit for either team.
17 Jul 2026 13:02:26
I still would absolutely love Tristan Luneau on the Leafs. I’d easily give up
2028 1st (col)
Noah Chadwick.
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17 Jul 2026 13:11:26
While a lot of people love Luneau, I would not give up that for him. Chadwick was one of if not the most improved of our prospects that went to the next level eg. Junior to AHL or AHL to NHL. Adding the First even if it falls in the 25 to 32 range is still a First and the only one we have. That is a lot to give up for a d-man that has played 14 total NHL games.
From Anaheim's perspective... they are so low on D-men that he is slotted in on their top 4 pairing this year. If anything they need veterans defensemen but still want to hang onto young prospects.
I don't see them swapping a prospect for a prospect. If his numbers from the AHL translate to the NHL then I will say I was wrong.
What I saw in Chadwick during the Calder Cup was a very smooth composed Defensemen than never panicked under checking pressure. He still has a lot more to give offensively from the point as well but worked with the coaches to concentrate in his first pro year on his defense. He and Danford are very similar d-men in the calmness they bring at young ages.
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17 Jul 2026 15:43:05
No thank you. Too much for Luneau.
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18 Jul 2026 07:27:15
Very fair point. I just think Luneau is gonna be a stud. We don’t need another dman like Chadwick right now, we have too many good solid guys that have little to no offensive upside lol. Luneau put up 52 points in 59 games in the AHL and then 41 in 70 the next year with 10 goals. I’d love to add a guy like him.
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18 Jul 2026 11:57:58
Just curious if you got to any Marlies games this year Matty? I caught about 10 if them live. Chadwick is certainly not a dman with little or no offensive side to him. With a year under his belt and I can see him in that 40 point range this year in the AHL. I like that Gruden held him back a bit to concentrate on the defensive side of the pro game.
As the year went you could see him get better and better. I liked how his shots from the point are almost like passes in that they are low and deflected easily. But also harder for a goalie to spot in traffic. He actually reminds me a lot of Ekblad.
15 Jul 2026 20:03:07
Well... Now it’s official that Yzerman has been moved into special advisor and is not GM. Does Larkin stay, and will the new GM offer sheet Fantilli with that extra money they have been sitting on?
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15 Jul 2026 19:29:41
Who cares. Different website.
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15 Jul 2026 19:41:30
It affects the whole league as far as who may or may not have been traded for Larkin which affects us for possible trade partners if he stays. Just the way the Dominoes fall in the league.
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15 Jul 2026 20:25:38
Only if we were planning on adding him. He’s mentioned 4 teams and non of them are us, so really who cares.
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15 Jul 2026 20:41:56
Because the teams that were interested in him or similar are still shopping and depending how the season unfolds they may be knocking on our door or vice versa. Come on now... Anyone that used the Name LeafsGM should know these basic things on how the world unfolds when these things happen.
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15 Jul 2026 22:47:50
Ya! Larkin vs Yzerman doesn’t affect the Leafs at all.
They sooo coulda handled things differently, behind closed doors.
Detroit problem not a Leaf problem.
😂🤣😂
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15 Jul 2026 23:33:56
Wow guys! Really?
Suffering is simply asking a question of opinion that does in fact affect the Leafs and every team. Why not give your view?
Everything that happens in the league affects other teams. Moving players and knowing or anticipating an opponent’s next move is like a chess game.
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15 Jul 2026 23:35:44
It isn't necessarily the dynamics of him and Larkin. My point, KingMatty, is it kind of is a Leaf Problem. Replacing a GM that missed the playoffs for 7 years and having someone else step in that has some cap is a leaf problem.
If it was a team that finished behind us and maybe not. But this is a team that finished 14 points ahead of us in our own division and with this leadership move could make some changes shortly that could enhance that gap.
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15 Jul 2026 23:49:17
Want my honest opinion, I feel it’s just a PR stunt. The owner (IIitch) is “supposedly” taking over and Yzerman will be his right hand man.
What changes is Detroit 🤷♂️
Nothing!!!!!
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16 Jul 2026 00:06:00
I agree it “might” can change the landscape but I don’t believe it’ll change the Leafs plans.
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16 Jul 2026 00:18:27
He is taking over until they hire a GM. Keep a eye on the GM that was in Providence for the Bruins. He interviewed for the Leafs GM job and they were thinking of him for the Marlies. But the timing here could be interesting. He was let go last night from the Bruins organization and Detroit takes Yzerman out today. Could be a massive co-incidence but.... one never knows. Dubs just hired Brandon Pridham after the Leafs let him go. But he would probably let Detroit interview Pridham if they asked. They have been buddies for years and he would not stop him from a shot at a GM's job. I honestly don't think it is a PR stunt.
We can look down and laugh at Detroit, but we really are not in a position to laugh hard.
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16 Jul 2026 00:53:34
My gut is telling me their on damage control.
🤷♂️
I’m sure Yzerman is out but thier try’n to do it w class.
Kind late to make a move like this don’t you think? 🤔
Bring in a new GM after the draft and after free agency opened? 🤔
Motor City will need damage control after damage control.
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16 Jul 2026 01:30:38
Yeah who cares.
Detroit is a hot mess.
Yzerman is a wimp and a quitter.
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16 Jul 2026 10:43:53
The guy played 23 playoff games with a totally destroyed knee. Won the cup and lead the team in scoring. His 3rd cup!
Wimp and a quitter?
Smoke another one.
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16 Jul 2026 11:53:18
@Suffering
I could see your point pre-draft but at this point most dominos have fallen. Plus, the new GM isn’t gonna come in fist a blazing. He’ll have to come in, meet people, talk to players and reach out to other GM’s and this GM hasn’t even been hired yet. By the time he settles in he’ll be waaay behind the 8-Ball. Larkin, like Rielly has limited trade list, so I don’t see any major surprises coming unless Larkin decides to stays.
The new GM does have things to work with tho. Top 5 prospect pool and almost $20m to play with.
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16 Jul 2026 13:01:18
Dam!!! Forgot all about the knee injury
@LukeFox
Yzerman is Not a wimp or a quitter.
When Detroit drafted Yzerman they were last place in the Norris Division
(21-44-15) and when he was finished they had 3x Stanley Cups 🤯.
Imagine trying to lead a team through those Detroit vs Colorado series w a guy on your team w his face caved it.
In my opinion he was one of the best leaders to play the game.
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16 Jul 2026 13:32:59
Leafs should get him as president of hockey operations. Start the Yzy plan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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16 Jul 2026 13:54:46
I’m not sure if your try’n to be a jerk or not but that is pretty funny 😂🤣😂.
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16 Jul 2026 14:31:05
Well here is a interesting twist involving a ex-Leaf executive. On Yahoo, where they were talking about the Yzerplan coming to a end. Elliot Friedman tossed out Shanahan's name as a possible replacement.
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16 Jul 2026 14:49:47
Wow!!!!
Wish I thought of that. Makes total sense. Not on my ‘A’ game today 🍺🤪🤕🔨
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16 Jul 2026 16:45:36
All joking aside, he was a Red Wing icon. Why not get another 🥴 in there to see how he can mess it up more? Not like he hadn’t done it to another team already 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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16 Jul 2026 17:22:03
I'm a firm believer in giving people where credit is due and while I know there are a lot of Shanaplan haters on here but in all fairness in the 10 years prior to him arriving, one year of course was the lock-out but the other 9 years we were a team that missed the playoffs 8 out of 9 years and were 15 games below .500. In the 10 years we was here we made the playoffs 8 out of 10 years and were 165 games above .500. His biggest mistakes in not getting us further into the playoffs was wanting every trade at the deadline to get approved by him and he would take to long to overanalyze and that is how we missed out on some trades. Too much control.
His other mistake was not realizing earlier that he needed to step aside and let new blood at the Helm.
Sadly we made the mistake of replacing him with a guy who's background was broadcasting and the CEO of a CFL team and a European Golf Tour. Brilliant move.
It's like any business plan, you do a 10 year plan and adjust. He reached the 10 years and that plan did work for awhile but he did not adjust.
Maybe in Detroit if he was the first guy in on the Trade line as G. M he may be a different cat.
Did I get frustrated we didn't get further in the playoffs with him here? Damn right I did. But nowhere near as frustrated as I was not making the playoffs all those years. So I will give Shanny props for at least getting us into being a competitive team.
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16 Jul 2026 19:33:05
What is this Detroit 90210??
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16 Jul 2026 19:42:32
Hey. It’s a slow week for hockey news. You don’t want to comment with anything productive to do with the post. Then start another one.
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16 Jul 2026 20:52:07
Sorry man, I just fail to see the correlation here. If Larkin stays or goes from the Leafs perspective, unless he’s moved to a team in Florida, the Habs or Buffalo, it doesn’t really matter. I view Detroit as a team in our rear view mirror, so if he stays Yahoo, totally inconsequential.
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16 Jul 2026 21:09:45
That's kind of a being in denial post. Season before last. Buffalo, Detroit, Montreal and Boston were in our rear view mirror. I think last season should have opened our eyes that "Objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear" and in some cases those objects are not behind us when we check the mirror.
There is no harm in watching what other teams are doing with transactions and leadership changes. I know for a fact that our changes certainly got attention on other teams' sites.
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16 Jul 2026 21:33:55
Ok, but Larkin or the GM whomever that maybe be doesn’t directly effect the Toronto Maple Leafs, and as you pointed out someone with my handle should know your point of view lol. The Toronto Maple Leafs have one player that either stays or goes and that’s Reilly, unless of course a Norris Trophy winner can be had without Knies.
So again, what and in what universe does it make and difference who the GM is or where Larkin goes?
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16 Jul 2026 21:44:17
I’m not in denial lol just don’t think your post has any merit 😘
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16 Jul 2026 22:43:32
So your question was in what Universe does it make any difference who the GM or where Larkin goes? The universe is a big area. The NHL is a small part of it. What is even a smaller part of that is the Atlantic Division. Of which Detroit and Toronto are part of.
One third of our games and points are comprised in that Division. So any significant change, negative or positive, in another team's lineup in that division, that, by the way, we had the worst record in, does make a difference.
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16 Jul 2026 23:18:53
He left Detroit in a hot mess.
So he quits.
That makes him a quitter.
And he’s a wimp for running.
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16 Jul 2026 23:54:35
But yet it had enough merit for you to diss it.
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17 Jul 2026 14:14:24
He didn't quit. He was given by the owners what is called a Percussive Sublimation. So his new position is strictly figurehead with no actual decision making. It was a way of not embarassing him to some of the older fan base in Detroit and his contract was due to end at the end of this season.
So I think he will step away from this new "Senior Advisor" role at the end of the year. They certainly won't pay him $1.8m to continue in that role.