07 Feb 2026 18:52:49
So here is one to Ponder.
Tampa Bay -Bobby McMann
Leafs- Sam O-reilly
Only if the leafs are not going to sign Bobby McMann (Which I have no objection to by the way. )
Apparently Tampa Bay is looking for a major add on for depth on their 3rd line for scoring and physicality. They are tight on salary cap and don't have a first round pick again until 2028 so they are shopping the only real asset they have and that is Sam O'Reilly. Bobby Mcmann suits their need in salary and scoring and physicality and is capable of a very good winger on their 3rd line and in case of a rash of injuries which they have now sliding up to the 2nd line. I straight up Mcmann for O'reilly would be a good deal for both teams. It also gives the Leafs a chance to reunite O'reilly with Cowan as they were dynamite in Junior on London.
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07 Feb 2026 14:47:00
Let’s try this younger retool/ rebuild scenario:
To Tor: Sennecke, Colangelo, Luneau, 2026 1st rd pick, 3rd rd pick 2027
To ANH: Nylander, OEL
2)
To Tor: Guenther, McBain, Tij Iginla, 2026 2 - 2nd rd picks, 2026 3rd rd pick
To Utah: Matthews
To Tor: Isaac Howard, Podkolzin, 2026 2nd rd pick
To Edm: Woll, Maccelli (50% retained ), Domi
To Tor: Soderblom, 2026 2nd rd pick
To Det: Reilly
Next years starting lineup:
Knies JT Sennecke
Guenther Laughton McMann
Iginla McBain Robertson
Soderblom Roy Howard/ Colangelo/ Podkolzin
McCabe Tanev
Luneau Danford
Rifai Carlo
Stetcher/ Benoit
Stolarz/ Hildeby —3rd - AA
Squired picks:1sts:1, 2nds: 4, 3rds: 2.
Now this is a rebuild/ retool.
07 Feb 2026 15:51:21
Maybe a bit too many forwards as I never even mentioned Cowan, Lorentz or Joshua.
07 Feb 2026 16:08:02
Sam Colangelo and Tristan Luneau the next great ones or something?
07 Feb 2026 16:21:02
They would be solid pick ups, but Sennecke is the real key to the deal.
07 Feb 2026 18:03:18
Matthews and Nylander aren’t being traded. Just stop.
06 Feb 2026 17:51:36
EDM
Stolarz
McMann
Carlo
_______
TOR
Mangiapane
2026 2nd
2027 1st
2028 1st
2029 cond. 1st if they win cup in 26/ 27/ 28 before Connor's deal expires.
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Cap retention can be used by TOR to make this happen.
06 Feb 2026 18:29:27
I think someone got into the police evidence room.
07 Feb 2026 01:07:31
Huge overpay by Oilers.
07 Feb 2026 18:00:48
I DON’T think it’s that much of an overpay CKPS. DON’T think they would want to give away their whole future but a 1st a year from now and 2 years from now doesn’t have the same value and coming from Edm it would a very late 1st round. I think they would add Howard over that many 1sts but who knows.
07 Feb 2026 19:00:04
How much do we need to retain in Salary to make it work. All of it? lol.
06 Feb 2026 17:37:00
To Tor
2026 1st
Wright
To Sea
Mcmann
Maccelli.
06 Feb 2026 17:47:12
How does SEA get better with this deal?
06 Feb 2026 18:04:03
So who is Shane wright being traded for? Macelli?
and McMann is being traded for the 1st round pick?
If I am the leafs I say yes to both of those but I if I am Seattle I would fall off my chair laughing before saying no. I am pretty sure that even though McMann doesn't have a no trade contract the Leafs are smart enough that is they deal him they would consult with him and his agent on what team he would most likely want to sign with as a free agent prior to the Free agency kicking in. I think McMann is worth a first round pick in the late half of the round but a team will only give that if they are sure they can sign him. As far as Shane wright for Macelli for sure I would love that deal for the leafs, but Seattle has a massive amount of prospects that they will be bringing up in the near future and Macelli as a RFA will be looking for a raise so homegrown prospects Logan Morrison, Jagger Firkus on the farm team or Jake O'brien who if not for a Injury in December would be comfortably leading the OHL in scoring all would be cheaper options than Macelli. I think to do this deal the leafs would have to sweeten the pot with another body that is young and under contract.
07 Feb 2026 03:14:33
B4 u talk look at stats. Mcmann is the 1st which if u look Seattle has 2 in 2026 and 2027 so they can easily give up one of them for a 30g scorer with a low aav. They need scoring. Wright has not lived up to his potential has 22 pts in 56g. Maccelli has 24pts in 46g and is trending upward with his play. Looking like the guy who got 56pts a couple of years ago. You r taking a chance on Wright. Not worth more than that no matter how many unready prospects they have. They r in a playoff spot and need to add scoring and these 2 guys do that.
07 Feb 2026 13:28:55
Wright could use a change of scenery for sure. His confidence there is so low. If he finds his game, he has a ceiling of a 2C and a low as a 3C. C carries more value than wingers. He just turned 22 and had 44 points last season with 19 goals.
Seattle is set up pretty good cap wise next season and could afford to re-sign McMann and Maccelli. That said, I doubt they have given up on their former 4th overall pick so much that they basically give him away when he had a 44 point season last year. They probably are looking for a 1st as a return and know it won't be top 15.
I doubt Seattle would even consider this.
07 Feb 2026 13:59:45
So yes McMann only earns $1,350,000 but what will he earn next year and can Seattle sign him? Otherwise they gave up a 1st round pick that was a rental player. I think truthfully because he has flourished in Toronto that they sign him sooner than later. He is a good fit here but he may not be in another city. The only reason his name keeps coming up is because he is one of the only real assets that doesn't have any trade restrictions at all in his contract.
I have to respectfully disagree with the Shane wright for Macelli. Sure Wright has not put up explosive numbers But in the last 5 to 10 games he has turned his game up as well. The one thing he has doen well is adapt to two way hockey. In plus minus he has been a plus In every season he has played games for Seattle. However Macelli has been a Minus player during his career and in a saw off of numbers I will take the better two way player anytime. Plus I think as Seattles younger prospects enter the league he will flourish maybe not as a explosive player but a John Tavares type with lower numbers in the 60 to 70 point range but still be sound defensively . To add scoring to Seattle before the young gunners get there it would take bigger names than these.
06 Feb 2026 17:09:00
I am for re-signing McMann and Laughton if possible, but if they won't extend by the TDL, then have to get something for them.
SJ
McMann $1.35M
Carlo $3.485M
Tor
Ostapchuk ELC
Chernyshov ELC
Wetsch Unsigned
McMann would fit perfectly on their 3LW and can play higher up. Carlo is an upgrade at 2RD for them signed for another year. SJ has tons of cap space next season.
Leafs get an equivalent 1st rounder in Chernyshov for McMann. Ostapchuk, likely nothing more than a 4th liner, maybe 3rd if he develops and Wetsch (this is where some value is) are the value for Carlo.
Ana
Roy $3M
Tor
Luneau ELC
2026 3rd.
Roy would fill out there forward group well and signed for another year at a manageable cap hit.
Leafs get a puck moving RD and a 3rd for the pick cupboard.
Leafs obviously shed cap.
06 Feb 2026 16:29:54
They want a 1st rd pick for Bobby and at least a 2nd for Laughton. I don’t believe they want prospects unless a pick is attached.
06 Feb 2026 19:33:16
Blowhard. As I said, Chernyshov is a 1st equivalent. Are you suggesting the Leafs would pass on a just turned 20 in November, 6'2" 200 lb RW that is putting up almost a point per game in the AHL and had 11 pts in 15 in the NHL this season because they only will accept a 1st round pick?
So they prefer the unproven guy they haven't drafted yet over the guy who is already starting to prove himself. Plus, Cheryshov plays a similar game to McMann. He's not as fast, who is, but he has speed, digs, drives the net and has better very good hands and vision. I'd put him with Matthews.
Add to that they get Wetsch, a pretty tough guy that can score and will stick up for teammates. And Ostapchuk adds another big body that can skate and plays a hard game.
This seems like the kind of guys the Leafs would look for and all 22 or younger.
07 Feb 2026 03:18:10
I believe they want draft capital not 20yr olds who are still in the ahl and are slow. They need to get faster not heavier and slower. They got enough of those kind of players.
07 Feb 2026 13:17:17
Chernyshov is not slow. Where are you getting that from? His speed would be slightly above average, which at 20, can still improve. Wetsch is a good skater and Ostapchuk is quite fast especially for his size. Plus, you can work on skating, hard to work on size and desire. Those two things are hard to teach. Typically they have it or they don't.
07 Feb 2026 18:58:13
@ Blowhard. Who are all the Heavy slow skaters you are referencing on the leafs. 5 of their biggest heaviest forwards are Matthews, Knies, McMann and Roy and Joshua who the last two are very good skaters for big men.
They have a team of good skaters but a team that is lacking in ice awareness that is why they lead the league in giving up Odd man Rushes. That is a systematic problem (Coaching) . Whether it be whoever it is a assistant coach who is not getting through to the forwards or not. it all still comes back to the man in charge to correct it. Berube and if he has players who don't listen. then its for Treliving to get players who will. I do know that Tavares, Knies, Domi and Reilly are really night in minuses in the plus minus. I have seen at least 3 times in the past month and I am sure there were more, that they were all on the ice on the second power play unit and 20 to 30 seconds after the penalty ended they gave up a goal. That is up to the Power play coach to ensure you have a least one of those guys off the ice with a fresh set of legs from your third line out there to ensure no odd man rush. We need to move some pieces around but I really think the coaching staff is lacking on the defensive end.
05 Feb 2026 22:39:28
Tor: Stolarz. Mcmann
Edm: Hyman
I’m too tired to figure out cap but I’m sure with
Adds and retention this would be a solid base.
05 Feb 2026 22:58:00
Edmonton says no thanks.
06 Feb 2026 04:01:32
Oilers didn’t start to win with regularity until Hyman returned from injury.
When Hyman was lost for the balance of the playoffs last year Oilers began to struggle.
Hyman is the glue that makes this team work.
I can’t imagine they would be interested in trading him.
06 Feb 2026 15:23:25
Leafs are asking for a first for mcmann just came out.
07 Feb 2026 13:18:00
They are likely not trading Hyman. They are looking to add to try and win a Cup.
05 Feb 2026 11:53:23
Ducks
Stolarz
Carlo
Laughton
Leafs
Luneau
Mintyukov
2nd 2026
2nd 2027.
05 Feb 2026 19:26:51
why would they take stolarz if they have dostal.
06 Feb 2026 16:32:36
They have no one to back him up that’s why they would take him. Mrazek and Husso 💩. Carlo great addition with them losing both Trouba and Gudas to FA.
07 Feb 2026 13:33:36
So basically it's Laughton for a 2nd (guesstimated value) and Carlo and Stolarz for Minty, Luneau and a 2nd?
I think they value Minty. I think this is light from the Leafs side. It's not like Carlo has been consistently great and Stolarz is injured a lot.
05 Feb 2026 01:01:31
San Jose
McMann
Roy
Carlo
Leafs
Musty
2nd 2027.
06 Feb 2026 16:33:21
Way too little for those 3 guys.
07 Feb 2026 13:39:59
I think it is light from SJ.
Plus, apparently the Leafs have no use for 20 year old prospects especially with only average skating, even if they 24 points in 32 games in their 1st AHL season.
Personally, I prefer Chernyshov. I think he will be the better player.
I would replace Musty with Cherny and they add Luneau as well.
05 Feb 2026 00:56:31
Oilers
McMann
Laughton
Carlo
Leafs
Howard
Beau Akey
Mangiapane for cap.
06 Feb 2026 04:03:58
Overpayment by the leafs.
Especially considering Mangiapane is under contract for another year at $3.6 million.
06 Feb 2026 16:34:01
No thank you. You an oilers fan?
04 Feb 2026 17:49:54
Couple trade ideas
Tor: Robertson hildaby
Phi: tomosino and our 1st back in 2027
Trade 2
Tor: Reilly maccelli
Sjs: leddy ( cap dump) 2026 2nd and haultunen
Still leaves the ability to trade mcmann and OEL.
I can see Philly agreeing to the first one Robertson is a player they liked in the passes and they need a goalie hildaby stings a bit but the Russian kid is younger and keeps getting better. We get our first back and tomosino who’s a young depth forward.
Second trade obviously Reilly has to waive but the sharks seem like a solid spot former leafs there up and coming team checks a lot of boxes we throw in maccelli too has been great sell high in return leafs get a 2nd this year cap dump leddy who is expiring and a prospect that lit up the ohl with Cowan 6’4 blue chip power forward prospect.
04 Feb 2026 17:12:36
Don’t want to trade McMann. Call it a retool and go onto to trade McMann? Leafs trade this guy and he will be a top 6 on any other team getting many more minutes than he is now and putting up 50-60+ points while playing the right way and all you goofballs are trying to trade him for a late draft pick 🤦.
04 Feb 2026 17:13:46
Couple of bad ideas.
04 Feb 2026 18:08:30
I'd try and pry Martone from Philly.
04 Feb 2026 21:09:41
I see both sides
@clarky simple fact is mcmann isn’t worth the money he’s gonna want here 4-5 mil even so if you want to keep him have those talks and it simple we need assets and if you want to come back in the summer cool
@bliwhard you never have anything intelligent to say lol
@hrenklin martone is a elite prospect very doubtful you get him in any trade unless a top player is going the other way.
04 Feb 2026 22:19:36
@Goat? I don’t see it that way. What’s Bobby on pace to hit 30 goals and 50 points and you’re telling me he isn’t worth 4-5M? Not to mention he plays the right way. All heart. We trade him and we will be looking for that exact player in a years time but they will all cost 7-8M ++. I do not see an advantage to trading this guy. He is getting better each year that he is in the show. Trade him and hope some middle to late 1st rd pick turns out to be something. OEL makes sense even though I don’t want to lose him. Reilly should be traded already, Maccelli, sure. But is this is a retool McMann and Knies should not come up in trade talks unless it’s a big overpay.
04 Feb 2026 22:59:15
Goat2.0 Giving up hildeby and McMann for a first rd pick and Tomassino who’s buried in the minors? That sounds intelligent to you? 😂🤣😂🤣 let’s not get on the Reilly and Maccelli trade. Right team to target but your return is ridiculous. Talk about no intelligence.
04 Feb 2026 23:37:39
Mr. Emoji, hate to say that you are correct on both trades BUT you could possibly get more people to give you some respect if you weren’t such an ‘armpit’ and were respectful of others.
But that’s your nature.
Like the bully on the schoolyard but no doubt the “tiny dog that barks all the time”. I can see you now!
04 Feb 2026 23:53:39
@clarky idk I’m not sold on holding onto him I personally would rather sell on him as he’s the best trade chip we got but I will say if the leafs don’t get a first or solid prospect I’ll be upset. but these trade have nothing to do with mcmann trade lol
@blowhard yes if I can move some depth pieces and get some value assets why wouldn’t you I get hildaby is looking good but the other two would be harder to move everyone wants to complain about empty cupboards but we want to pick and choose what we sell off….
05 Feb 2026 02:19:34
Blowhard is Blowing-Hard again.
He didn’t say McMann and Hildeby, he said Robertson and Hildeby.
Personally I would like to Keep McMann unless we are getting a young, roster player with upside for him.
Someone like Matt Savoie (RW) from the Oilers.
If Rielly is willing to waive to go to San Jose let’s get it done.
Taking on Leddy’s expiring contract while getting a 2nd round pick plus Haultunin would be great.
Even just the 2nd or the prospect would be be great.
Since 2022 - 2023 Leafs are 24 - 5 - 1 WITHOUT Morgan Reilly.
Tomasino was a 1st round pick, 24th overall.
He played well enough on his ELC to warrant a $1.7 million dollar contract but then fell out of favor with management.
Tomasino is a Right Wing and Leafs have only one (1) right winger, Nylander, on the roster.
I would like to see the Leafs give Tomasino another opportunity.
Robertson - Roy - Tomasino on our 3rd line might prove interesting.
05 Feb 2026 14:26:20
Pros are saying at the most a late second pick for mcmann.
05 Feb 2026 20:39:28
It is my hope that Treliving will hold out for at least a 1st for McMann.
McMann is “money in the bank” for the Leafs while a pick has risk.
There will be a team step up with 1st I believe.
04 Feb 2026 14:38:47
Tampa
McMann
Benoit
Leafs
O'Reilly.
04 Feb 2026 15:21:00
I'd prefer the picks after so many failed trades. If we bring in a costly player, if want something younger.
04 Feb 2026 16:57:03
Good Trade McMann for O'reilly, the kid played really well at the WOrld Juniors. But I would like a Third round pick for Benoit too.
04 Feb 2026 16:59:53
I love O'reilly for McMann. The kid played great at the world juniors and is a gamer. I'd like to get a 3rd round pick tossed in for Benoit too though.
05 Feb 2026 02:24:47
Love the trade.
Last summer, when his value was at its peak, I wanted to trade Stolarz to the Oilers for Sam O’Reilly, before Oilers traded him to Tampa for Íke Howard.
O’Reilly is a right winger as well, fitting a glaring need on the Leafs.
McMann would be a great addition to the Lightning’s push for one more Stanley Cup with their current core.
05 Feb 2026 20:45:07
I cannot support this trade. It far undervalues two current NHL player for a unproven prospect.
Yes I do like O’Reilly but not at this price.
Need more back from Tampa or this will become a Boston-type trade that will haunt us!
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